Talk:Joe Martinez (baseball)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 17:48, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello! I'll be reviewing this article to help reduce the good article nomination backlog and to gain points in the WP:WIKICUP. Although quid pro quo is not required, if you fancy returning the favor, I have a list of articles in need of review here. — GhostRiver 17:48, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Infobox and lede

• Delink "American" in lede per MOS:OVERLINK
• "pitched four years for" → "played four years of college baseball with"
• Move "2009" to before "Harry S. Jordan Award" and then cut the "in 2009" clause in the middle of the sentence for better flow
• "before getting" → "before being"

High school and college

• I'd add his parents' names, Javier and Toni
• Link "varsity" to Varsity team
• Specify American or gridiron football rather than association/soccer
  • It's specified with the link. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 00:21, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
• Specify that he played college baseball for BC
• Shouldn't it be "a 0–0 record" rather than "an"? "Zero" starts with a consonant sound
  • Not the way I was hearing it in my head (I was hearing oh and oh), but I think either way would work - changed it to yours. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 00:22, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
• "Martinez was used" → "The Eagles used Martinez"
• Link first instance of "shutting out" to shutout

Playing career

San Francisco Giants

• I don't know how I feel about "Minor league progression", I usually call those sections "Draft and minor leagues"
• "drafted Martinez" → "selected Martinez" to avoid repetition of draft(ed)
• "Class A short season" → "Class A Short Season"
• "third-highest total" → "third-most"
• List the starts and ERA for his Greenjackets year
  • Easy to overlook, but they're already mentioned in the preceding sentence. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 00:24, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
• "Class A advanced" → "Class A-Advanced"
• "first against the Stockton Ports ... and later against"
• Link first body instance of spring training
• Associated Press should not be italicized, as that's an agency and not a paper; AP News is the paper
• "gave up two earned runs in two innings", AP quote already says it's two innings
• "took the lead for good" → "took and held the lead"
• "went straight to the forehead" → "struck Martinez in the forehead"
• "giving him a laceration and a nose bleed" → "lacerating him and causing a nosebleed"
• Link concussion
• To be pedantic, "three small fractures" is not the same as "three fractured bones" as the source says, particularly if the fractures were in the skull, in which case they'd be in different places on the same bone
• "After missing several months of the season"
• "His seven appearances" → "All seven appearances he made"
• "first major league starts" Shouldn't that be singular? Next sentence only refers to "the game"
• Should probably say what the Hutch Award is for
• ""arguably [the Grizzlies'] best starter."" → ""arguably [the Grizzlies'] best starter"." per MOS:LQ
• "Bumgarner the next time"

Pittsburgh Pirates

• "Upon being acquired" → "Upon his acquisition"
• Switch the second "posting" to "recording" to vary sentence structure a bit
• I'd throw in this Post-Gazette article, which includes the line The bullpen, manager John Russell said, is where Martinez will stay, though he has also done some starting.

Cleveland Indians (minors)

• Rename section to "Cleveland Indians organization" or "minor league system" to avoid parentheses
• Man, I've been struggling to find anything about his time in Columbus, but it appears he won the Triple-A Championship MVP

Arizona Diamondbacks

• "lone major league appearance"
• This article suggests that Martinez was set to be a long reliever so that Wade Miley could start (which obviously ended up not shaking out, but)

Cleveland Indians

• Specify as noted here that he signed with Cleveland on a minor-league contract with a spring training invite
• Elaborate on the Francona comment; what kind of mess was he thrown into to work out of?
• "could call up" → "could promote" to diversify sentence structures
• "He made some starts for the Salt Lake Bees of the Pacific Coast League, losing all three" → "He lost all three starts that he made for the Salt Lake Bees of the Pacific Coast League, posting"

Career statistics and pitching style

• Good

Personal life

• I have a subscription to The Athletic, which has an article with a lot of good details on his family and new job that can be added to this section. Would you like me to send the full text your way?

• • That would be great! Do you want to paste it here (and then we can remove it once the edits are made)? If that doesn't violate any copyright. Or, you could add stuff that you think might be relevant from it since you have access to it, though that might be time-consuming for you. Let me know if either of these options works for you! Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 23:14, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

References

• [2] doesn't use the cite news template and needs to be standardized
• The headline in [27] (Bastian) is a bit of a mess at the moment
  • I'm convinced that MLB.com changes the exact title sometimes over time (feel like this has happened to you before, as well). It needed cleanup, anyway! Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 23:07, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
• In [34], "yahoo! sports" should be "Yahoo! Sports"

General comments

• Images are both properly licensed and relevant; shame we can't find CC images of him
  • I know, right? Such a recent pitcher! Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 23:14, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
• No stability concerns in the revision history
• Earwig score looks good, highest result is a direct quote

That's all I've got! As always, feel free to ping me with questions, and let me know when you're finished! — GhostRiver 21:15, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for making those changes – I added the Athletic information myself to avoid any copyright concerns. Happy to pass! — GhostRiver 21:33, 16 March 2022 (UTC)