Talk:Joe Wirkkunen

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• ... that Joe Wirkkunen coached the Finland men's national ice hockey team after receiving a recommendation from Canada?

• Source: https://www.nwosportshalloffame.com/builder-profile/a54b9a0f-c216-4f9d-9601-34272b7fa468

• Reviewed: Grace Panvini and Robert Aiello
• Comment: I volunteer two QPQ credits for one nomination, to help reduce the backlog of nominations without reviews.

Created by Flibirigit (talk) and WheatenOdin51 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 155 past nominations.

Flibirigit (talk) 17:26, 23 August 2024 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

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QPQ: Done.

Overall: I have some concern about the roundabout way the citation verifies the hook. Presently, I think there are two logical leaps being made from "sought suggestions from the local hockey community, and Joe's name was recommended" → "receiving a recommendation from Canada?" and then "Finland was searching for a Finnish speaking instructor with knowledge of the Canadian ice hockey system." → "coached the Finland men's national ice hockey team" connected by the "after receiving" makes it sound like the coaching position was directly a result from the recommendation from Canada. Bobby Cohn (talk) 17:25, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

I'm okay with Canada being a stand-in for "local community" (we're small, I get it; and it is limited at DYK) but the implied timeline seems like a bit of a stretch, but could be easily remedied. Suggested alternative: ALT1: "... that Joe Wirkkunen, after receiving a recommendation from Canada, would go on to coach the Finland men's national ice hockey team?" just to clarify. Bobby Cohn (talk) 17:26, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Another opinion is needed for ALT1 since neither I nor the original reviewer are eligible to approve it. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 00:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

@Bobby Cohn and Flibirigit: Neither the article nor the source say where he was recommended from. It just says "to former Canadian Amateur Hockey Association president Frank Sargent".--Launchballer 09:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

The source states "from the local hockey community", which is Port Arthur, where both Wirkkunen and Sargent resided and were involved in hockey. I have added that specific phrase to the article. Flibirigit (talk) 00:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)