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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by DimensionalFusion talk 07:36, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

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Joe Wirkkunen

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  • Reviewed: Grace Panvini and Robert Aiello
  • Comment: I volunteer two QPQ credits for one nomination, to help reduce the backlog of nominations without reviews.
Created by Flibirigit (talk) and WheatenOdin51 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 155 past nominations.

Flibirigit (talk) 17:26, 23 August 2024 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: I have some concern about the roundabout way the citation verifies the hook. Presently, I think there are two logical leaps being made from "sought suggestions from the local hockey community, and Joe's name was recommended" → "receiving a recommendation from Canada?" and then "Finland was searching for a Finnish speaking instructor with knowledge of the Canadian ice hockey system." → "coached the Finland men's national ice hockey team" connected by the "after receiving" makes it sound like the coaching position was directly a result from the recommendation from Canada. Bobby Cohn (talk) 17:25, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

I'm okay with Canada being a stand-in for "local community" (we're small, I get it; and it is limited at DYK) but the implied timeline seems like a bit of a stretch, but could be easily remedied. Suggested alternative: ALT1: "... that Joe Wirkkunen, after receiving a recommendation from Canada, would go on to coach the Finland men's national ice hockey team?" just to clarify. Bobby Cohn (talk) 17:26, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Another opinion is needed for ALT1 since neither I nor the original reviewer are eligible to approve it. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 00:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
@Bobby Cohn and Flibirigit: Neither the article nor the source say where he was recommended from. It just says "to former Canadian Amateur Hockey Association president Frank Sargent".--Launchballer 09:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
The source states "from the local hockey community", which is Port Arthur, where both Wirkkunen and Sargent resided and were involved in hockey. I have added that specific phrase to the article. Flibirigit (talk) 00:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Port Arthur and Canada are not the same thing.--Launchballer 21:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
You'll note I did catch this on my first pass. An explanation as to why this botherered me less when I came to review this is that if something (i.e.: a person, a recommendation) comes from Port Author, it also inherently comes from Canada. Bobby Cohn (talk) 21:35, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Fair enough. Let's roll.--Launchballer 21:43, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
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