Talk:John Malkovich/Archive 1

Archive 1

Political conviction

Where does John Malkovich stand on the political spectrum? Based on his comments about Fisk and Galloway, one would presume he's on the right. - Quirk 15:24, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

I came here to ask a very similar question. What are his politics (if they are a matter of public record, at least)? Whilst I'm here anyway, a second question, why is he noted as leaving France? Is this encyclopaedic, or just trivia? Telsa 15:21, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Many right-wing people agree with Fisk and Galloway. Malkovitch is a zionist extremist, not a right wing extremist.

Dyslexic, stupid or just plain dumb?

I have deleted the whole part which reads this:

However, Malkovich had initially misinterpreted a line from Fisk's "The Great War for Civilization." The sentence from the book (p. 501) actually reads, "If this was a war on terror, I wrote in my paper that awful spring, then Jesus was not born in Bethlehem." This phrase appears to be a variation on "if this is true, I'll eat my hat" - raising the issue of whether Malkovich is, "dyslexic, stupid or just plain dumb," as he has been described on a popular political blog.[1]

Because I think it is not encyclopedic. It would be nice if someone could rewrite it into a more serious text and readd it. --DocBrown 22:32, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Bush support unsubstantiated by ref

I removed the following line: and - confirming his support for Bush's wars in the Middle East, preceding the quote about Hitchens. The Guardian interview says nothing about Bush, or his opinions on the Middle Eastern conflicts, and the only mention of Iraq is in reference to France's government. --64.24.181.159 03:01, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

John Malkovich ORIGIN

John Malkovich's father is of Croatian descent. Malkovich has visited Croatia lately, and there's pictures of him with the Croatian President Stipe Mesic.

He is a Croatian-American. Jagoda 1 04:18, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

NPOV

This article is rubbish (apart from the filmography): Scanty information about his early life & personal life plus more or less anectdotal evidence concerning his political views (nothing wrong with such a section - but he's neither a politician, nor is he an activist...), and nothing about his development & career as an actor. No, siree. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.188.204.51 (talk) 01:33, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

If anything, this article suffers from a paucity rather than a surfeit of points of view- it would be nice to know what somebody thinks about him. Seriously, if you think there is an inappropriate point of view expressed here, could you please say what it is? Until then I'm removing the banner. Nigel Napalm 01:41, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Origin

If it is Croatia that his family came from then there is no problem in mentioning it. I was curious as to when the Malkoviches invaded the USA but thankfully, someone (unnamed) wrote to me saying it was before 1900. In that case, it is better to say Austria-Hungary unless the region was a part of the Illyrian Provinces (France), that which was taken from Venice. The trouble with the Balkan region and surrounding area is that you've been fought over more than anyone else in Europe. Everybody wants influence over you but the Slavic nations refuse to assimilate the overlords. Fair play to you, if my ancestors had been the same, I'd know how to speak Welsh! :)

I'll wipe out 'Yugoslavia' since it came into use from 1929, long after Malkovich Clan occupied Universal Studios! But bare in mind one thing. Coming from Croatia and being Slavic need not necessarily make one 'Croat', nor 'Serb' for that matter. Pre-1900 was a strong pro-Slavic unity typical among ordinary folk and you had peoples using names as Morlach, Slavonian, Slav Dalmatian, Slovene (for regions in Croatian Istria), Krajishnak (NOT Krajina-Serbs but indigenous Catholics living in areas adjacent to Croatia-Slovenia borderzones, all sorts). See what you think! Celt 29-12-05

I'm sort of a local, and know some of the sonufavitches. The local articles I have seen say they came from Croatia before 1900 to work the mines northern Minn, then moved to Franklin County. There are Greek Orthodox Churches and Catholic Churches in Franklin County, but I never heard if they belonged to either. I know there were Serbians in the Charlie Birger Gang. I'm pretty sure none of the sonufavitches give a rat's asshole about this controversy. They are more American than 90% of you.

I'm glad here it doesn't get as hot as some of the Serb vs Croat debates between their hardliners. One day it will emerge that all of Franjo Tudjmans ancestors were Serbs and Slobodan Milosevic was only adopted after his real parents abandoned him at birth, and they were probably Croats, but he never knew! Jokes aside, we can all agree one thing. Serb or Croat is still Slavic, as oppose to Hungarian or Italian - so Malkovich the name does show this. We can omit Yugoslavia even though it does mean 'Southern' Slavic as oppose to Poland and Ukraine which is northern Slavic (further divided west/east), but Karlovac is indeed present-day Croatia so we can say just that, present-day Croatia! I hope everyone is happy with this. Jordovan 31/12/2005

ETHNIC Croatian. It's got nothing to do with the country those people lived in back then.--(GriffinSB) (talk) 23:48, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Croatian descent

Someone edited that he is of Serbian descent.That's not true. Here is the video of John Malkovich reciting verses of Lijepa nasa (Our Beautiful), Croatian national anthem, in Croatian, in Los Angeles studio Village Recorder, November 1990 (information by Nenad Bach, New York, July 2005)

http://www.lijepanasadomovinahrvatska.com/video05/nb.wmv

--(GriffinSB) (talk) 23:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC) the link doesn't work anymore..i'll find the one that does.--(GriffinSB) (talk) 00:00, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000518/bio

--(GriffinSB) (talk) 13:42, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Democrat fundraiser

Malkovich didn't attend - it was a mistake by a reporter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sfaiku (talk • contribs) 05:28, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

He said many ttimmes that he doesnt know a single word in Croatian language

How is he a Croat then,he first visited Croatia at age of 50Dzoni 22:16, 20 April 2006 (UTC) He speaks some Croatian words. He said he is Croatian...Sibenik

(Of Croatian ancestory perhaps?)

So when you were born, and didn't speak Croatian for the first year or so of your life, were you not a Croat? He's American (which is a nationality) and a Croat (which is an ethnicity), much like Robert De Niro is Italian and Kurt Vonnegut is German (but both are Americans). Unigolyn 06:20, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

"How is he a Croat then, he first visited Croatia at age of 50".

In the same way 35 million Americans call themselves "Irish"........ 62.25.106.209 (talk) 13:06, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Acting style

A Salon reviewer describes Malkovich as "diffident, sardonic, pseudo-aristocratic". That seemed concise and accurate to me.

• O'Hehir, Andrew (2009-09-18). "John Malkovich faces "Disgrace"". Salon.com. Salon Media Group. [Malkovich] presents essentially the same diffident, sardonic, pseudo-aristocratic demeanor in every role ...

Since he's such a distinctive actor, I think this might be worth including, perhaps at the end of Career. Any objections? / edg ☺ ☭ 15:50, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

John Malkovich TV Credit

The writers of the wiki article missed a tv credit. John Malkovich voiced the Santa Claus character in Santa Bear's First Christimas. Notable because it also starred Bobby McFerrin, Kelly McGillis, and his wife at he time, Glenne Headly. I don't have the time to edit the wiki page but maybe another fan will.

Here is the info: http://www.michaelspornanimation.com/SourceFiles/Credits/Santabear/Santabear.html (Bobroberts248) 05:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank You Devilmanozzy for updating this detail for us. Bobroberts248 (talk) 22:08, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Opening paragraph

I removed Con Air from the list of "critically acclaimed" roles by Malkovich. Rotten Tomatoes has it listed at %57, and Metacritic scores it at 52 (mixed or average). Either way, definitely not critically acclaimed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.76.55.171 (talk) 21:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

What a mess

I love this actor. Maybe I should redo this whole diasaster of an article. Information is mixed and messed. So whoever feels responsible for this page should work on it. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.50.149.61 (talk) 16:38, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Absolute Freedom

Malk's remarks about Fisk & Galloway are protected by the absolute right of free speech that everyone enjoys throughout the world at the present time. Anyone can say anything without fear. 205.188.116.13 00:36, 20 September 2005 (UTC)Col. Sebastian Moran

This is quite true, indeed. However, slander is not. Though we may have differing opinions, I take this to be slander, as I have listened to him, personally, and do not find him to be a sympathizer of violent people, whether they be Muslim or Christian, for that matter. Opinionated, yes, but then again aren't we all? :) Besides this comment has little relevence over one that would instead note the quote Malkovich actually said. Perhaps, the press took it and ran?

No way! Incitment to murder is not included in speech freedom. I think this dude John risks serious problems with the justice in Britain. The same can be said about those in the other side of the Atlantic who expressed the desire to kill Julian Assange. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.28.51.244 (talk) 04:17, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Orphaned references in John Malkovich

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of John Malkovich's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "telegraph":

• From Kevin Spacey: Hastings, Chris (September 10, 2006). "Spacey sets the stage for nine years at the Old Vic". The Daily Telegraph. London. Retrieved June 2, 2008.
• From Anthony Hopkins: Sir Anthony Hopkins portrait The Telegraph Retrieved Thursday 6 January 2011
• From Harry Andrews: "Basil Hoskins". The Telegraph. 2005-02-11. Retrieved 2009-06-05.
• From Tom Ripley: Andrew Wilson 12:01AM BST 24 May 2003 Comments (2003-05-24). "Ripley's enduring allure". Telegraph. Retrieved 2010-12-30.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)
• From Christopher Plummer: Alex Dobuzinskis (7 March 2010). "Christoph Waltz wins for "Basterds"". reuters.com. Reuters. Retrieved 2012-07-23.
• From Juno (film): Hiscock, John (February 2, 2008). "Diablo Cody:'I feel more naked writing than I did as a stripper'". The Daily Telegraph. Retrieved 2008-04-16.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 13:38, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

The History of my Baldness

it seems this book is usually translated in English as "The Story of my Baldness". In French it is L'Histoire which can mean both History and Story. Since the book is a story and not really a history I can see why it is sold under that title. Maybe whoever writes this page would like to change that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.197.138.31 (talk) 19:08, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

 Done per e.g. The Story of My Baldness Rostz (talk) 04:17, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Athiest cat

Editors occasionally add atheist categories to the article, but the subject's response (when asked in an interview whether it was necessary to have spiritual beliefs to portray a spiritual character) was "No, I'd say not...I'm an atheist. I wouldn't say I'm without spiritual belief particularly, or rather, specifically. Maybe I'm agnostic, but I'm not quite sure there's some great creator somehow controlling everything and giving us free will. I don't know; it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me." Only by taking a few of these words out of context can that be construed as a definitive statement of atheism, so per WP:BLP the cats are inappropriate. Rostz (talk) 04:31, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

eupehmemism?

As a boy, Malkovich was reportedly heavy set. By high school, he had transformed himself physically and was a star athlete.

This appears to be a euphemism -- in which case it's absurd. You might as well say he was "big-boned" or "of traditional build". You don't "transform yourself" from being heavy-set. If he was fat, say he was fat.

I totally agree. Fat is fat, or large, or big, but not "heavy set", (which is an Americanism anyway).

Well, he is American, so I think a so-called "Americanism" would be quite appropriate.

Try WP:Weasel. An American is an Amerindian to most of us. And it's spelt euphemism.78.19.232.225 (talk) 14:27, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

john malkovich comes to bleeding seniors rescue in toronto

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/06/07/john-malkovich-comes-to-bleeding-seniors-rescue-in-toronto Add thjat piece of trivia or not? 83.216.249.233 (talk) 12:10, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Puppeteer?

Is he really a puppeteer, or is that just a plot line in Being John Malkovich? SmartGuy 20:33, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Take a wild guess Hearfourmewesique (talk) 13:10, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Film Debut

He stated in an interview years back that the first film he did was The Killing Fields and he did Places In The Heart after the confusion is understandable since both movies came out the same year (1984). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.34.211 (talk) 03:49, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

SNL material

I'd agree that this article is not very good and needs a redo. One might start by removing all the unnecessary details about the musical guests on the nights her hosted SNL. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:C:AC80:460:A852:62C6:3E49:9291 (talk) 07:07, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Quote

I've once read a quote about his own work by Malkovich, which if it can be sourced should be a good addition to the article: "I'll play whatever I'm asked to play, even if it's a tea cup." --2003:71:4E33:4641:C58B:1DF0:BBD:624B (talk) 23:36, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

not much detial considering the actor...

Croat?

Read the answer here Do danas ne znam jesam li Hrvat, Crnogorac ili Bosanac (Up to today, I do not know whether I am Croat, Montenegrin, or Bosnian)

Kada je prvi put u nekim novinama napisano da sam hrvatskog podrijetla, majka mi je rekla da potječemo iz Crne Gore, za što do tada također nisam čuo

--109.92.171.142 (talk) 15:55, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

I've been one of the people reverting the recent attempted changes to Malkovich's heritage. And while this source is definitely not enough to support a Montenegrin heritage, I think it is worth including to show there is now some doubt as to where his grandparents came from.Doctorhawkes (talk) 21:48, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Not enough to support Montenegrin heritage? Her says "majka mi je rekla da potječemo iz Crne Gore". Clear enough?--109.92.164.230 (talk) 06:47, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

It appears he was previously told other information in the past. And while his mother has now told him something, it's worth noting that the Croatian heritage was paternal. And... sometimes family histories are complex.

I suggest maintaining the original info, and then including a further sentence to address the statement from his mother.Doctorhawkes (talk) 20:31, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Appears what? Not visible from the reference.--178.223.77.177 (talk) 16:33, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Serbian roots

He gave filmed interview for RTS where he said "I think that my grandmother on my father’s side has Serbian roots." https://serbia.postsen.com/movies/34390/John-Malkovich-arrived-in-Serbia.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.240.132.194 (talk) 12:25, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Older entries

"In May 2002 at the Cambridge Union he stated that he would like to shoot Scottish Member of Parliament George Galloway and the British journalist Robert Fisk."

Why?

Does this belong in an encyclopedia article?

Not without context, imo. See non-encyclopedic for further discussion on this type of query. Ellsworth 22:33, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

You call "both of whom are accused of sympathising with Islamic terrorists" context? It's pure BS coming from a minority of people, really.

This discussion is playing up the ethnic origin of a 4th generation American.

changed birthplace

I've changed John Malkovich's birthplace from Benton to Christopher -- imdb sez Christopher. If this is absolutely wrong please feel free to correct me. Thanks. --I. Neschek 19:33, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Sabotage

Somebody; has been having fun with this page. Reverted to Revision as of 18:39, 4 September 2005. --Aasmunds 05 Sep 2005, 12:40 UTC

Thanks

Jordovan thanks fo your information, realy ;O)

• HAPPY NEW 2006*

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John Malkovich visit Stjepan Mesic the Croatian president

John Malkovich has visit the president of Croatia Mr. Stjepan Mesic in July 2005 (Dubrovnik) Under www.predsjednik.hr it is too see. Tip under "trazi" (search) Malkovich in and You will see Mr. John Malkovich with Croatian president Mr. Stjepan Mesic. In the text stay, that Mr. John Malkovich will promote Croatia in the USA. www.predsjednik.hr is the official page of the Croatian President Mr. Stjepan Mesic

Eragon

Will somebody please upload that pic of John as Galbatorix with Durza? You can find it on the Eragon movie page at [2]

References

Why are the references not visible when you click on editing the page? There's an HTML link saying that the reference section is supposed to be closed but I don't understand the reason for this. And wow, I thought Malkovich was unusual before. Learning about his homicidal fantasies has only increased this belief-which is surprising (obviously that's just a tangent, not at all content-related).

Politics

I've removed the reference to Malkovich's political views. This is because I don't think they're particularly relevant to his life. He's an actor. Please do restore this section if you think it's the right thing to do. I do not. --Tony Sidaway

Spam alert, someone adds Zumberak everywhere

Someone is adding Zumberak as the place of origin of many celebrities without proof, it's probably the spammer's village.