Talk:Jordana Brewster
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editThere is a disagreement in the article about when exactly she graduated from Yale.
interviews
editI noticed a link to a Craig Ferguson interview. It is to "br.youtube" so shouldn't it be replaced with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0dvQXK-YEc ? Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSfj63j_BeQ is a better interview (with Jimmy Kimmel, in 2006). 199.214.28.8 (talk) 23:16, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Goshhh
editBrewster is of Brazilian Descent, so she's not "Hispanic". Hispanic people are those who came from countries where the Spanish is the/one of the oficial language(s) (Spanish colonization). Brazil was a Portuguese Colony. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.58.169.142 (talk) 01:57, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- nice catch, nevertheless, the average White-American will still think she is Hispanic. Now let's see if Wikipedia accepts that as a source. --Andersmusician NO 06:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Brazilian-American not entierly accurate..
editShe IS Brazilian American due to her parent's nationality, but she was born in Panama and now lives/works in the U.S. That makes her primarily a Panamanian-American of Brazilian descent, NOT explicitly, or just a Brazilian American. This really should be reflected in the lead. 24.190.34.219 (talk) 14:12, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
- Not really. We should check her legal nationality stati. She certainly has Brazilian and American nationality (both entitled by law). We don't know about the Panamanian nationality. It is wrong to say that she is Panamanian simply due to the fact that she was born in Panama City. --Andregoes (talk) 04:31, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
- Why would she be entitled to Brazilian nationality if she wasn't born in Brazil? Was her mother in official service when she was in Panama? And why wouldn't she be Panamanian, isn't Panama a jus soli country? afc (talk) 02:59, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- That's the point. I don't know if she Panamanian because I don't know if Panama applies the jus soli principle. However, as I mentioned, she is certainly entitled by Brazilian and American law to both nationalities. Andregoes (talk) 05:27, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- Per WP:MOSBIO, the intro should only refer to the country of which she is a citizen, or was a citizen when she became notable. That would probably be the United States. Is there any evidence she's a Brazilian citizen? All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 05:10, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Panama applies the jus soli principle. So she is entitled to that nationality. As all babies born in Panama are registered almost automatically and assigned an unique ID card number for use when they become legal, she most likely has the Panamanian nationality. Radioheadhst talk? 16:46, 12 April 2011 (UTC).
- Per WP:MOSBIO, the intro should only refer to the country of which she is a citizen, or was a citizen when she became notable. That would probably be the United States. Is there any evidence she's a Brazilian citizen? All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 05:10, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- That's the point. I don't know if she Panamanian because I don't know if Panama applies the jus soli principle. However, as I mentioned, she is certainly entitled by Brazilian and American law to both nationalities. Andregoes (talk) 05:27, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Her father was American and she lives in the US now. American is justified based on father, where residing now and where became notable. She was a child in Brazil and it is not shown if she did the legal applications needed when becoming an adult to claim Brazilian citizenship based on her mother's. She likely has a right to Brazilian citizenship if she wants it but countries generally don't force citizenship obligations on children not born there. She was also a child in Panama and even if Panama claims her as a citizen she has no notability there so that shouldn't go in intro per WP:OPENPARA, although it might be justified in infobox. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:15, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
I edit , some hours ago, an topic about Brazilian/American Actress Jordana Brewster. In fact, in this page, her Brazilian nationality isnt appears. This is incorrect, cause your mother born in Brazil , as the very page correctly said. So , in the Brazilian Constitution, Brazilian citizenship is granted the actress even born in another country, simply because her mother also be Brazilian. the article confirms my thesis is the number 12.
Link about Brazilian constitution (online) ---> http://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/Constituicao/Constituicao.htm
In loco :
CAPÍTULO III DA NACIONALIDADE
Art. 12. São brasileiros:
I - natos:
a) os nascidos na República Federativa do Brasil, ainda que de pais estrangeiros, desde que estes não estejam a serviço de seu país;
b) os nascidos no estrangeiro, de pai brasileiro ou mãe brasileira, desde que qualquer deles esteja a serviço da República Federativa do Brasil;
Translate :
Chapter III ABOUT NATIONALITY
Article 12 - Brazilians are:
a) those born in the Federative Republic of Brazil, even if of foreign parents, provided that they are not in the service of their country;
b) those born abroad, of a Brazilian father or a Brazilian mother, provided that either of them is the service of the Federative Republic of Brazil;
The light of these facts, I hope the article is corrected.
Thanks! Leonardo Castro. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leobruno86 (talk • contribs) 04:12, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
- Note that the requirement is that a parent be in the service of the Federative Republic of Brazil which generally means a diplomat of Brazil residing in another country. Her mother was not shown to be in Panama in any official capacity representing the Brazilian government so that section would not apply to Brewster. She likely has a right to claim Brazilian citizenship, if she wants it, but she would have to do so affirmatively as an adult, citizenship would not be imposed on her against her will. Diplomats and military on foreign assignments are special cases which is what that section you quoted is about. I'm pretty sure that if you check the naturalization laws of Brazil you will find a section that explains what a child of a citizen born outside Brazil to a non-diplomat needs to do to claim citizenship and the application process. Unless there is some proof in reliable sources that Brewster did make application to claim Brazilian citizenship we assume she didn't and is not a citizen there. All the reliable sources we have in the article now just state she is American and nothing more. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:40, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
- See also article "Brazilian nationality law § Natural Brazilians born abroad" which explains it a bit more. Says she would need to register, not automatic. "pt:Nacionalidade brasileira" is likely more complete and accurate. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:55, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
- American is not accurate, either
Hi !
You right, but you missing one point: In the Brazilian Constitution , she is Brazilian. I put the article in this Constitution that clarify this question.I see that you dont understant one specific topic:
"b) those born abroad, of a Brazilian father or a Brazilian mother, provided that either of them is the service of the Federative Republic of Brazil;"
Her mother (Maria Joao)is included in this article. Whether she is serving or not the Brazilian government, the simple fact of being born in Brazil, assures her Brazilian citizenship. Unless she has resigned (not found any reference in the internet about this), she is Brazilian and ,by extension, gives his daughters also that citizenship. The context of service, the Brazilian constitution, be linked to representation, not the work for the government , properly. You are not understanding the context of that article. All right about that! :) I dont know ,specifically, the constitution of Panamá (i dont know if the fact of being born there give her a Panamanian nationality, in fact). So, if yes, put the three nationalities: Panamanian, Brazilian and American. This information is more correct than American. We know that she not only American. See you soon! :)
Leonardo Castro — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.60.99.135 (talk) 16:47, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
- You would need to show that her mother was in "the service of the Federative Republic of Brazil" at the time of Brewster's birth not just her mother being a Brazilian citizen which is not in any dispute. That term of art generally means in the diplomatic service of the country, part of a diplomatic mission likely with diplomatic immunity as an official representative of the government of Brazil. Unlikely as most people visiting other countries are not in the diplomatic service. If she were not, then Brewster is entitled to Brazilian citizenship based on her mother but she must, as an adult, claim it - it is not automatically imposed on her. See "pt:Nacionalidade brasileira" which is likely correct about her need to make a petition to a judge in Brazil to claim her citizenship. Nothing in article said she has done that. Look beyond your understanding of the constitution, which I think is incomplete, and look into the naturalization laws of Brazil as well. The linked article has references that are more authoritative than a ptwiki article would be. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:09, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
- From ptwiki article:
aos nascidos no estrangeiro de pai brasileiro ou de mãe brasileira, desde que sejam registrados em repartição brasileira competente ou venham a residir no Brasil e optem, em qualquer tempo, depois de atingida a maioridade[nota 4], pela nacionalidade brasileira.
, poor google translation:those born in the Brazilian foreign parent or a Brazilian mother, provided they are registered in competent Brazilian office or come to reside in Brazil and opt, at any time after reaching the age of majority [note 4], the Brazilian nationality.
Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:18, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
The pronunciation of her name in Portuguese is unnecessary
editWhy has a Portuguese pronunciation of her name been included, when she has spent most of her life in English-speaking countries, 23 years in the US and 5–6 years in the UK, and has only spent a small part of her life in Brazil, that was 4 years? No-one in the US would pronounce her name using Portuguese pronunciation and she may not either; due to living in English-speaking countries most of her life. She would have been fluent in English before she was fluent in Portuguese, spending her early life in the UK and her later life in the US. Not only that, her last name originates from the British Isles, so the Portuguese pronunciation for that is simply wrong. Is there a reference that her name is pronounced using Portuguese pronunciation? If not, then the Portuguese pronunciation of her name should be removed.
BTW, the NY Times reference states that her nationality is of the United States; is there a reference to state that she is also of Brazil nationality? If not, then her nationality should be changed from Brazilian-American to American with Brazilian heritage. --58.166.19.28 (talk) 08:00, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Your birthday
editHappy birthday Jordanna Brewster Bryansjaj23 (talk) 19:11, 25 April 2021 (UTC)