Talk:Jurassic Bark

Episode Number

It's episode number 58, not episode 61. Check episodes 51-60

The episodes have two different possible orders, at this time they are listed by production order rather than broadcast order. Stardust8212 00:36, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

broadcast order is the only order that matters. episode could have been written 4 episodes in advance, but weren't aired or whatever reason. http://www.tv.com/futurama/jurassic-bark/episode/165480/summary.html This website also confirms that it is the 58th episode. So there's no reason to think otherwise. C. Pineda 07:19, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Is it not worth making this distinction in the articles? I'm having difficulty pulling up examples (maybe The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, but that's not really a fair comparison), but I've seen other Wikipedia articles that include both pieces of information. The currently listed season/episode number is completely useless for finding the episode online on any streaming service. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Studentism (talk • contribs) 22:05, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

You find "Jurassic Bark" under episode 2 of season 5 now on Disney+. I think this article should reference the current order for people to find it. 2A02:3030:803:B059:5A86:166B:5985:8C29 (talk) 00:45, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

We respect the wishes of the people who made the show, not how Disney chooses to list the episodes. See List of Futurama episodes for more information. DonIago (talk) 20:24, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Season and Episode Number Discrepancy

I recently made a change to this episode stating it is season 5 episode 2 and not season 4 episode 7 as marked in this article because it is in fact season 5, episode 2.

My post is not vandalism and should not have been reverted by user user:doniago because the information currently provided is incorrect.

Note the following sources:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0584444/
http://www.tv.com/shows/futurama/jurassic-bark-165480/
http://www.amazon.com/Jurassic-Bark/dp/B002BSGEZE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1386008895&sr=8-1&keywords=jurassic+bark

References

I can continue to list more sources but I feel this is more than satisfactory.
Thank you and regards.
24.187.65.32 (talk) 18:49, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

List of Futurama episodes DonIago (talk) 19:37, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

It appears to me that the confusion here is between the production season (which is the season designator used at List of Futurama episodes) and the broadcast season. According to List of Futurama episodes, "The original 72-episode run of Futurama was produced as four seasons; Fox broadcast the episodes out of the intended order, resulting in five aired seasons." I cannot find, but have not yet looked to my full satisfaction for, verification of that, but I have little doubt that it's correct and have made an edit to the lede here to explain the difference. Let's now all look for sources which explain all of this, rather than just whack each other with sources which reflect one or the other. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 14:35, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

An IP editor with a single edit has changed the infobox information to reflect the broadcast season/# information rather than the production information. I was about to revert that and recommend discussion on the talk page, but I then noted that the documentation for the {{Infobox Futurama episode}} infobox specifies that airdate (i.e. broadcast) information is to be used in that infobox for season and number. (Which kind of makes sense since the production code is also included in the infobox.) Now, it's true that infobox documentation does not rise to the level of policy or guideline and, as such, is merely a recommendation as to how the box is to be used but, nonetheless, I'm loath not to follow it without good reason. If there's a feeling that production information should be used for everything connected with Futurama, then the infobox documentation should be changed. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 13:35, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

I really think it would be best to bring this up at a more generalized Talk page than one specific to an episode (alternately links to this conversation could be provided, but that wouldn't be my preferred option). My understanding for years now has been that those parameters should reflect the production info, especially as they key in to the list of episodes provided at the tail end of the infobox, which also use production info, but I wasn't involved in the original decision. DonIago (talk) 06:36, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

I agree, and the template talk page would probably be the right spot, but right now it would be an argument to include unsourced information into the infobox. Frankly, except by the occasional drive-by SPA, IP, or fanboy, I'm beginning to wonder if the editors who put the production-sequence standard into place haven't all departed and that there is no remaining advocate for that system except for you, who I believe like me has no dog in this hunt (pun intended) except to uphold general Wikipedia principles. I was very uncomfortable about adding that information to the lede here since it is unsourced, and I'm not particularly willing to revert the broadcast season information from the infobox both for the reason of the documentation and because it is unsourced. I'm going to give everyone at least through the end of the month to respond to my cn-tags at List of Futurama episodes and then decide whether or not to delete the production season information there as unsourced. If that happens, and fails to prod someone into coming up with a reliable source, then the whole everything-based-on-production-sequence scheme is going to fall apart. I'm not particularly interested in fighting the infobox war if that's going to happen. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 15:22, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure the information should be considered unsourced, since I believe the production code could be argued to be the source in and of itself, and that appears in the credits of every episode. That said, I don't think I've ever seen the discussion that led to the alleged consensus either (I've assumed one must exist (someone put the templates and everything else together at some point) but haven't made a serious effort to dig it up).

I can't say that I'd look forward to seeing every episode (and template(s)) altered, but I suspect part of my concern stems from the fact that I'd have to remember that the system had changed. It's going to be a tall order to implement, in any case. DonIago (talk) 02:15, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Now I know that the production codes come from the end credits of each episode, my resolve has faded on the other issues I've listed at Talk:List of Futurama episodes#Reliable sources for episode order and the removal of the production sequence material. I've updated the {{Infobox Futurama episode}} documentation to reflect that it's supposed to be production information, not broadcast information. In order for this to cease being a constant irritation, I think that the infobox ought to be additionally updated to specify "Production season" as the label rather than just "Season" and also add fields for "Broadcast season" but it's going to need a major rewrite to do that since instead of creating its own fields it merely calls {{Infobox television episode}} and that far more widely-used template doesn't allow for that and its constituency probably won't allow much tinkering. (Indeed, it's fully protected to prevent that.) It's more work than I care to do at the moment (and my template coding skills are very limited), so I think I'm done here. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 15:51, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

I want to add the number here is trivia and instead you should use the number the owners fo the show use. People reference the number here, they then go look for the episode and can't find it because the people that actually own the rights to the show list this as season 5 episode 2

Here's the episode on NBC.com

https://www.nbc.com/futurama/video/jurassic-bark/3687908

Here it is on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGnvomHG-do&list=ELCA0jjpZ6-Nk&index=2 Here is on hulu

https://www.hulu.com/series/85bf4cc1-cd8b-4469-ad87-7289217a0b74

here it is on Apple

https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/futurama-season-5/id316788493 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.103.153.185 (talk) 09:19, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Here it is on Disney+

https://www.disneyplus.com/en-gb/series/futurama/4B9X20Pjihaf 101.115.174.155 (talk) 07:56, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Just curious

Wandered back to Futurama after some years, and was trying to find Jurassic Bark. Realized the wiki has the production n not broadcast order of seasons/episodes. Was wondering why that is? Usually articles use the functional option in these cases, IE an episode reference for people to use. Honestly, because so many other sites use wiki as their reference, makes it extremely difficult to find the episode you're looking for. As the broadcast version is equally accurate, is there any point to this other than snobbish refusal? I plan to change it after this. Feel free to "correct" it if I'm wrong. Not doing every episode, just this one as it's the most searched. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.7.53.82 (talk • contribs)

This would be better discussed at Talk:List of Futurama episodes, where I believe there are already existing threads regarding the rationale for using production order versus release order (I believe most particularly because production order is the creators' preferred order). Cheers. DonIago (talk) 17:11, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Fry hugging his dog

@Doniago:, Okay, everybody knows that this is a common Internet meme. Knowyourmeme has an article about it, if you open Instagram even the Simpsons memes feature it, and so on. It's a well known fact, like the "shut up and take my money" meme that this is also a meme. Been around since 2002, check out Reddit and stuff. What sources do you require? --Whydoesitfeelsogood (talk) 03:03, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

If everybody knows it, providing a reliable source should be quite easy to do, so why not provide one instead of disputing the need for one? DonIago (talk) 05:45, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

"Best of..." Lists

In the "Reception" section, a number of sources list "Jurassic Bark" as either the best or one-of-the-best episodes of the series. It's rating on IMDB is the highest of any Futurama episode, and I imagine this is one of (if not the) most-searched episodes partly as a result of its notoriety. As such, it would make sense to populate that section in this manner with as many RS "rankings" as is reasonably possible. Right now the listing is in "prose" or "paragraph" form, however, when I attempted to research rankings to update the section, it turned out the episode was/is at the top of an absolute mountain of RS' lists, which would make inclusion in paragraph form a cumbersome read. Would anyone be interested in creating a more ergonomic listing (like a chart or simple spreadsheet) if I could provide a list of recent, RS links on the matter in addition to those already included? 24.151.103.37 (talk) 06:28, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

An accolades TABLE may be appropriate if the list is really that extensive. I'd check MOS:TV to see whether it offers any guidance on such before making any substantive changes though. DonIago (talk) 17:00, 14 November 2022 (UTC)