Talk:Kamen Rider

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In this particular case, I think that people who type "Kamen Rider" are as likely to want to see something else about the series, rather than the original series, and it's rather unfriendly to force them to read the article to find the page with more general information.

ManoaChild 21:02, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, I suppose, but since the original series is connected to the overall franchise, rather than being a seperate entity, having an actual dab line feels like an unnecesary and intrusive self reference. So, the Kamen Rider article should be about the first series. Then in the opening paragraph we say that it began a highly successfull franchise with a link to the page.--Sean|Black 21:56, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't see how "self reference" is relevant, since that article is about wikipedia articles that talk about wikipedia. Could you be more specific. ManoaChild 22:09, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Because it's a meta comment, seperate from the text of the article. It's simply not necessary here, and if the reader is lookng for information about the franchise as opposed to the series, I don't think mentioning it in the intro puts an unnecesary burden on the readers, and is overall better organization.--Sean|Black 23:05, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

I see your point, though I disagree with your priorities. Maybe we can find a compromise. My concern is that users who want the franchise page should be able to find it quickly and easily, with minimal reading. I dislike having the link at the end of the introduction, almost as a side note. What if the link to the franchise was put in the first sentence, not just in the first paragraph? Maybe changing the first sentence to:

Kamen Rider (仮面ライダー, literally "Masked Rider") was a popular and successful Japanese television series created by Shotaro Ishinomori (石ノ森 章太郎), and the first series in the Kamen Rider franchise.

ManoaChild 23:29, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

That's just fine.--Sean|Black 23:43, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Should there be a dab page?

Does the topic "Kamen Rider" need an actual dab page? My feeling is that the franchise page serves a similar purpose, but I'd like to hear arguments to the contrary. ManoaChild 21:30, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

KR ratings at the 80's

After Kamen Rider Black RX ended production, the series was put on hold due to poor ratings during 
the 80's.

Both Kamen Rider Black and Kamen Rider Black RX reached similar ratings to Metal Heroes series, as stated by this website: [1]. So, the reason for ended the KR series with RX maybe something else than the ratings. Black Condor 04:20, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it was because of the failure of the Shin Kamen Rider: a Prologue that was made after RX or maybe because Kamen Rider creator Shotaro Ishinomori didn't want to do another rider show after RX was used for Saban's Masked Rider. Ishinomori himself was reportedly so utterly repulsed by the series, he refused to allow any further American adaptations of his work. Godaiger

It's a possibility, but both Shin and Saban's Masked Rider was made in the 90's. The article implies that there was no Kamen Rider series in 1989 because of Black and RX's suposedly bad ratings. - Black Condor 04:27, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Picture

What is this? The article is about the original series, yet the picture depicts a bunch of Riders from later series. Shouldn't the picture show the original riders (1 and 2)? The picture looks more like something for the franchise article. Cabbage-Sama 09:29, 28 March 2008

IS there a site where the Manga of 1979: Masked Rider Storyboard (NOT KAMEN RIDER SPIRITS) at?

For those of you who read this article where do you get the information of the kame nrider rider 1979 manga storyboard site if there is show me at any blog so that i might see it not that Kame n rider spirits manga because it doesnt have ishinomoris design like the 70s manga designs and also show me any Heisei Kamen rider manga (eg-ryuki ) so that i may compare it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.83.40.224 (talk) 15:19, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Tribute in Paradise Lost

If there is a trivia segment there was a homage in Kamen rider 555 movie paradise lost where Takumi Inui, (Kamen Rider Faiz) has a alternate name similar to Takeshi Hongo (kamen rider 1) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.83.40.224 (talk) 13:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Kamen Rider Dragon knight link?

surely this link does not belong on this page. kamen rider dragon knight is an adaptation of ryuki, not the original series. if a link to dragon knight did belong any where other than the kamen rider ryuki page or the actual dragon knight page, it would be the kamen rider series page, but certainly not on here. in the manner that this page is specifically about kamen rider the original series, rather than kamen rider in general, surely that precludes any of the other kamen rider series from mention on this page unless it is directly relevant to this specific series? I quickly scanned this page and could not see any reference to dragon knight so I don't see how this link is relevant.Drag-5 (talk) 15:55, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Merge with Great Leader (Kamen Rider)

The Great Leader is not sufficiently independently notable to have an independent article. As such, Great Leader (Kamen Rider) should be merged here. Neelix (talk) 00:20, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Where it should be merged with is hard to determine because of how much Great Leader (Kamen Rider) covers. It is not notable on its own, but it does not exactly all belong here.—Ryulong (竜龙) 01:36, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

The character is already covered on this article. My recommendation is simply to redirect the title here. Is there a different target you would suggest? Neelix (talk) 16:30, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

I just do not know of any particular target that would suffice.—Ryulong (竜龙) 18:38, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

This article is the best option then. Neelix (talk) 18:03, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

About the removal of the Shocker article and articles about other old Showa organizations

I've noticed that all the monster information has removed from the original articles about the evil organizations of the Showa Kamen Rider series, when those articles were merged with the main pages of each series. The reason given apparently was because "none of this is important".

If that's the case, why haven't the monster pages for Heisei Rider series been removed too? It's a specially oddly timed removal because in the last two years the old Showa monsters have basically become recurring characters, some reappearing in newer movies even with speaking roles. Meanwhile, the Heisei monsters only return as silent suits, unless they're tied to Showa monsters somehow, like some Decade characters. So, they're more relevant than ever.

Both the pages that had full descriptions and the ones that just had name and appearance lists were removed, so obviously the amount of content wasn't a problem. What was the rule used for removal of those pages that still allows the Heisei monster pages to continue existing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.70.235.215 (talk) 20:59, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

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