Talk:Karl Malone

Wife's name

what is his wifes name —the preceding unsigned comment is by 67.166.108.29 (talk • contribs)

I believe Karl Malone's wife's name is Kay. — FREAK OF NUR_xTURE (TALK) 07:42, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)

Birthplace

Changed Malone's birthplace to Bernice, Louisiana, per his profile at Yahoo! Sports. [1] — <iNUR_xTURE]] (TALK) 07:42, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)

Picture

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to have a picture of Malone in a Utah uniform? Dshin 08:21, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I second that 84.238.10.100 19:36, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Reputation

This section seems a little POV. How do we know his elbows/knees were inadvertant? Might as well remove the qualifier and just state that it happened. ChrisLawson 17:51, 11 August 2006 (UTC) Great Guy! Raise livestock. This entire page is full of sloppy sentences, wordiness, bad grammar, and redundancies. I suggest cleaning it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Timshady5k (talk • contribs) 22:34, 27 February 2008 (UTC) There seems to be no mention of him engaging in sexual intercourse with a 13 year old girl in the public image section, he is a vile human being and his reputation has been stained in the eyes of many because of his actions. The basketball community was outraged when the NBA glorified him in Utah 2022 All Star Game. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.192.2.192 (talk) 21:17, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Charitable

I'd really like to see him given proper take give money; he had his company bring extensive equipment to help clear badly damaged areas of Louisiana. ViolentLee 00:37, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

WP:BLP

I moved all this to talk since it was unsourced. Since it was mostly negative it violates WP:BLP, feel free to re-insert it if sources are provided:

Reputation

Malone was considered by some to be a "dirty" player. There were numerous instances during his career where other players were injured as a result of Malone's physical playing style. Below is a summary of several of the more prominent examples of Malone's perceived dirty play:

• At Louisiana Tech, Malone's elbow struck Rice center Dave Ramer in the face, shattering his cheekbone and collapsing his sinus. Ramer never played again.

• On December 14, 1991, Malone's elbow hit the Detroit Pistons' Isiah Thomas in the head as he drove to the basket. Thomas needed 5 stitches above his eye to close the wound. Malone was suspended and fined by the NBA. Allegedly, Michael Jordan refused to be on the "Dream Team" if Isiah Thomas was on it, so John Stockton made the team instead of Thomas. Thomas responded by drilling Stockton for 44 points in a subsequent game. Pistons coach Chuck Daly furiously accused Malone of intentionally harming Thomas in retribution for this.

• On April 7, 1998, Malone's knee struck the Golden State Warriors Donyell Marshall, breaking one of his ribs, ending his season. Marshall would eventually play two seasons with the Utah Jazz from 2000-2002.

• The next night, Malone's elbow knocked David Robinson unconscious, earning a suspension.

• Malone was famous for his "kick jumpshot," where he would use a leg kick to power his jumpshot. He was fined for kicking Shawn Bradley on January 6, 2000.

• On December 4, 2003, Malone's elbow hit Steve Nash, who required several stitches in his mouth, earning Malone a suspension.

Malone is also one of the most politically outspoken NBA players. He makes no bones about his conservative, Republican beliefs and is a staunch member of the National Rifle Association. His was one of the strongest voices against Magic Johnson's attempted return to the NBA for the 1992-93 season, one year after Johnson retired due to testing HIV-positive. Also, during the 1998-99 players' strike, Malone would make many guest appearances on a Salt Lake City sports talk radio station to express his views on the NBA's labor situation.

feel free to comment. Quadzilla99 05:49, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I think the "strike" is more correctly called a lockout

Here's a citation for "perceived dirty play." See near the end of the article: [2]Benjamid (talk) 05:27, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

footnotes

I think that Karl Malone is the best basketball player in history —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abonelli (talk • contribs) 00:14, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Ill be adding footnotes to help this page.--ParthianPrince (talk) 02:20, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

WCW Wrestling

i think his time in world championship wrestling should be mentioned --77.186.40.54 (talk) 17:00, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Seconded. 75.76.65.246 (talk) 11:28, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Thirded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.210.203.189 (talk) 17:20, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

AIDS Controversy

How about his comments regarding Magic Johnson and HIV/AIDS? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.10.234.193 (talk) 20:32, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

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Sex with teen

Remember when Karl Malone impregnated a 13 year old girl when he was 20 years old. It was while he was attending Louisiana Tech. I wonder why they left that off the WIKI page 2601:405:C100:1716:D02E:45AC:784C:2124 (talk) 18:46, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

THANK YOU, its ludicrous, whoever wrote this is weird 2601:195:C47F:4B80:9DB3:4EC0:7D45:609E (talk) 04:01, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

It's already at Karl_Malone#Family. —Bagumba (talk) 05:02, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Yeah but it’s not spoken about very negatively l think there should be more emphasis on how fucked up it is but it’s just in there like an every day thing that happens Eg224 (talk) 18:54, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

I mean, he's an admitted pedophile at this point, right? We know he was 20 when he got Bell pregnant, she was 13 when she gave birth, and he's acknowledged that Bell's son is his child. This is such an incredibly fucked up thing to just be buried in the 'Family' section, like it's normal family events. Nonissue (talk) 02:25, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Yeah but it’s not spoken about very negatively...: We reflect what reliable sources say per WP:WEIGHT.—Bagumba (talk) 05:17, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

And reliable sources say he's a pedo who should be in jail Deadlyops (talk) 15:03, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

The information about Gloria Bell has been in the article in some form since 2008. You can fault Wikipedia for many things, but Wikipedia is a big reason why that story has remained in the public consciousness. Countless Reddit threads and message board discussions link to this very article.

I do think the article lead could say something about Malone'a tarnished legacy. Enough has been written about that topic in recent years. But we'd need to be very careful how to present that information. WP:NPOV is an important policy; our language needs to be restrained and impartial. Zagalejo (talk) 00:30, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Yes it should absolutely say something about it. Eg224 (talk) 14:40, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Sex with minor

While Karl has no criminal record of pedophilia, it has been confirmed publicly that he impregnated a 13 year old child when he was 20. This is mentioned briefly in his "Personal Life" page, but should be highlighted more prominently in its own section. The way this article glorifies the guy for the entirety of the intro and makes no mention of this at all until near the very bottom is odd to say the least. 2601:183:427E:DFD0:69AA:2F0F:89C7:2D66 (talk) 00:13, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

It shouldn't be a short section per MOS:OVERSECTION, and it shouldn't be overwhelming per WP:WEIGHT. See also the related discussion above at #Sex with teen. —Bagumba (talk) 00:41, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

I’ve though a while about how to properly present it and I think of something mentioning how he has received criticism (just something like “Malone has received criticism for the relationships.” and how it usually comes up during awards and recognitions, like the All-Star weekend the time it was in Utah. Does that work? Would that be too long? Wouldn’t be more than a sentence or two. Like the previous section said, it’s something that has to be done carefully and may lead to vandalization of the section, so I’m not sure what to do with this. Eg224 (talk) 16:24, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 December 2023

Please change "==NBA career==" to "==Professional career==". 2603:8000:8500:38F2:3555:E1BD:92BE:8228 (talk) 17:16, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: There is an Olympic career level 2 heading which is part of his professional career Lightoil (talk) 03:06, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

I've changed it. It seems consistent with other NBA FAs. Olympians don't really get paid to participate (I think), and they are not typically lumped together.—Bagumba (talk) 03:36, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

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He also owns three car dealerships; two in Utah, one in Louisiana, and one in Idaho. Karl Malone Toyota is in the Salt Lake City suburb of Draper, Utah, while Karl Malone Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram is in Heber City, Utah. Malone previously co-owned a Toyota dealership in Albuquerque, New Mexico, with Larry H. Miller Dealerships, but sold his share in 2010. He also co-owned a Honda dealership in Sandy, Utah, with John Stockton, but sold his share, again to Larry H. Miller Dealerships, in 2010. In 2019, he bought a Toyota dealership in Ruston, Louisiana, now called Karl Malone Toyota of Ruston. Lastly, he owns Karl Malone Ford in Hailey, Idaho.

Malone also owns three Jiffy Lube franchises in Utah, and is a part owner of Burger King franchises in Utah and Idaho.[52] Pilerman (talk) 13:19, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Pinchme123 (talk) 01:56, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

This should be cited from independent sources, which find it notable. Wikipedia is not here to promote and itemize entire business portfolio.—Bagumba (talk) 02:02, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

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