Talk:Katerina Sakellaropoulou

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Ekaterini vs Katerina?

Is her first name more commonly rendered as "Katerina" or as "Ekaterini" in English? In Greek, most papers seem to prefer the "Αικατερίνη" form, riɡht? Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:46, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

In Greek media it seems they tend to use the formal form Αικατερίνη in Greek, but in English the picture is blurred. The two main newspapers with English language versions have made different choices: ekathemerini.com uses "Katerina", while tovima.gr uses "Ekaterini". Other Greek media have used "Ekaterini (Katerina)" or opposite to be on the safe side... What have internationl media done so far? --T*U (talk) 11:24, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

And what about the subject herself? She uses Katerina on her personal Facebook page.[1] And Katerina is widely used in the English-language media. Changing the English-language article from Katerina to Aikaterini is really a bad move, particularly given there was no real discussion. Damac (talk) 21:03, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Hmm, yes, I'm not too sure it was a good idea to move it that quickly either. At a quick glance, "Katerina" seems to be predominant in the international press, and those that do render the "Αικατερίνη" form almost invariably do so with the phonetic transcription "Ekaterini" rather than the formal transliteration "Aikaterini". The latter form seems to be quite marginal. Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:37, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Her name as it appears at the official site of the Greek Presidency is "Katerina Sakellaropoulou". http://www.presidency.gr/en/president/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stroumel (talk • contribs) 07:23, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Copyvio paragraph removed

In this old version of the article, the following paragraph in the Biography section:

The French-educated judge broke the mould when she was elevated as the first woman to the helm of the country’s highest court in October 2018. Sakellaropoulou’s sensitivity to civil liberties, ecological issues and minority and refugee's rights, prompted the then left-wing Syriza administration to propel her to the post.[6]

is a direct quote from The Guardian and, in particular this link. I have removed it. Please do not reinstate. Thank you. Dr. K. 19:10, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

"Honours" section

Somebody added a section with national honours claimed to be received by Sakellaropoulou on assuming office. Two issues with that: First, it's entirely unsourced. Second, nobody seems to have heard about those awards in the reliable media. Apparently the claim is that all presidents get them automatically on assuming office. That may well be true (though just out of curiosity, how do the receive them? Do they award them to themselves?) – but if that is true, they strike me as utterly uninteresting. If it's automatic, it's not news. Listing them – especially in this detail, with pictures and all – strikes me as the kind of pedantic factoid-listing that makes Wikipedia articles so notoriously tedious. It reeks of puffery and peacockery, and in the absence of reliable media giving them an equal amount of prominent coverage (or indeed any coverage at all) it's almost certainly WP:UNDUE. In any case, sourcing is really, really a must here. (Needless to say, the same goes for other presidents' articles, where the same editors seem to have also been active adding or expanding such lists recently). Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:21, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Update: According to the relevant law (mirrored on wikisource:el:Νόμος_106/1975), it is indeed the case that each incumbent president of Greece is, ex officio, "Αρχηγέτης απάντων των Ταγμάτων" ('chief leader of each order'). But being the "leader" of the order as an institution is not the same as being "awarded" it – the whole point of these orders is that they are granted individually to persons based on their merits, and the presidents are never recipients of such an award; their position merely means that they are the ones who do the rewarding. So listing these here as if they were "honours" received by the presidents themselves seems highly misleading to me. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:04, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

On a related note, I've also removed the glaring and distracting ribbon icons from the honours list, here and in a few parallel articles. Per WP:MOSFLAG, we use icons in lists only where they help reader understanding. Since these ribbons won't be individually recognizable to most readers without explanation, they are of no use and only a visual distraction. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:08, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

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@Dr.K.: Why is the thing still available to link to? Why is the deletion discussion page blank? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:18, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: Hi Deepfriedokra. First, thank you for protecting this article and, generally, for your great admin work. At Commons, deletion discussions move at a glacial pace. The deletion discussion for this file is not blank. Simply, noone has !voted yet since June when it was first nominated for deletion. At this rate, this file may still be in an AfD state for months. It's really not a very efficient process. Dr. K. 01:43, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

@Dr.K. and Deepfriedokra: I have nominated for speedy deletion and reinserted a picture which actually has a Creative Commons license. --T*U (talk) 06:11, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. All these pictures are making me dizzy. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:12, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Gone! Gone are also two derivative cropped versions. More copyvio uploads are to be expected, since the only existing picture with proper licensing is of not very high quality. I will be on the alert. --T*U (talk) 10:46, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

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