Talk:Kathakali

Merging Guru Kunchu Kurup into Kathakali

Guru Kunchu Kurup is impossible to understand as written without some context given in this article, in my opinion. As it stands, the article needs to be drastically improved and removing information without context will leave it with only a small stub not worthy of its own article. Kit 10:46, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Why should you want to merg Guru Kunchu Kurup article with Kathakali? If you know more about Guru Kunchu Kurup, please try to expand it, or edit that page ot reflect katakali article.

one of Oldest Dance forms

"It is considered to be one of the oldest dance forms in India." This statement has to be cross checked. Kadhakali infact is a descendant of many old art forms like ramanattom and Krishnanattom. And the present form of Kathakali is not very old.203.200.35.9 17:38, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Expert

Things like this: " Mridangam, Chenda and Ilathalam are used in kathakali. The actors never speak. They use gestures instead of dialogues. A lighted nilavilakku (traditional lamp of Hindus) can also be seen which is called Attavilakku. Nalacharitham Attakkatha was written by Unnai varrier is an excellent piece of attakkatha. " Need copy-editing by an expert.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 02:59, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Dravidian civilizations

Wiki Raja 10:30, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Lists

This article is about the dance form not exponents, hence Iv moved the list of artistrs and awardees here - probably best to make a new list article. Around The Globe^{सत्यमेव जयते} 09:28, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Prominent Artists and SNA Awardees

1. P. K. Kunju Kurup 1956
2. Thotton K. Chandu Panikkar 1958
3. Thekinkatti Ramunni Nair 1961
4. Chengannur Raman Pillai 1963
5. Gopi Nath 1965
6. Kalamandalam Krishnan Nair 1967
7. Kurichi Kunjan Panickar 1968
8. V. Kunchu Nair 1969
9. M. Vishnu Namboodiri 1970
10. K. Karunakaran Nayar 1971
11. M. Madhava Panicker 1972
12. Velinezhi K. Nanu Nayar 1973
13. Kavungal Chathunni Panicker 1973
14. T. T. Ramankutty Nair 1974
15. K. Sankarankutty Panicker 1975
16. K. C. Parameswaran Pillai “Champakulam Pachu Pillai” 1983
17. Mankompu Sivasankara Pillai 1985
18. Kalamandalam Gopi 1987
19. Keezhpatam Kumaran Nair 1988
20. Oyoor Kochugovinda Pillai 1989
21. Chennithala Chellapan Pillai 1991
22. Kalamandalam Padmanabhan Nair 1993
23. Kottakkal Krishnan Kutty Nair 1996
24. Madavoor Vasudevan Nair 1997
25. Kottakkal Sivaraman 1998
26. Nelliyodu Vasudevan Namboodiri 1999-2000
27. Sadanam P. V. Balakrishnan 2003
28. Kalamandalam Vasu Pisharody 2004
29. Mathoor Govindam Kutty 2005
30. Kottakkal Chandra Sekharan 2006
31. Sadanam Krishnan Kutty 2007
32. Kalamandalam Kuttan 2008
33. Kalamandalam Rajan 2009
34. Kalamandalam K. G. Vasudevan 2010

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Etymology

Can someone who has access to the cited publications for the etymology give the excerpt supporting the etymology?

1. Kal for learning is strongly attested in Dravidian languages including Tamil and Malayalam (DED):

    (kaṟp-, kaṟṟ-)&searchhws=yes kal (kaṟp-, kaṟṟ-) 			(p. 120) kal (kaṟp-, kaṟṟ-) 1297 Ta. kal (kaṟp-, kaṟṟ-) to learn, study, practise (as arts), acquire skill in the use of arms; kalai arts and sciences, learning, erudition; kallāmai state of being unlearned, illiteracy, ignorance; kallāṉ unlearned, illiterate person; kalli precocity, precocious child; kalvi studying, learning, erudition, science, practice, scientific work; kaṟkai learning; kaṟpaṉ, kaṟṟavaṉ learned person, scholar; kaṟpaṉai learning, study, teaching, instruction; kaṟpōṉ scholar, pupil; kaṟpi (-pp-, -tt-) to teach, instruct; kaṟpu learning, study, knowledge, chastity; kaṟṟar learned men. Ma. kalkka (kaṟṟ-) to learn; kala art, science; kaṟṟavar the learned. Ko. kal- (kaṯ-) to learn; kalc- (kalc-) to teach; kalyv (? kaḷyv) education; kaḷyv skill, ability to do things without being taught. To. kal- (kaṯ-) to learn; kalc- (kalč-) to teach; kalfy education. Ka. kal (kalt-), kali (kalit-) to learn; kalisu, kalusu to teach; kal learning; kali a learned man; kalike learning, skill; kalita, kalpi learning, erudition; kaliyuvike act of learning, learning; kale an art. Tu. kalpuni to learn, study; kalpāvuni to teach, instigate; (B-K.) kalpādi a learned man, sophist; hypocrite. Te. kaṟacu to learn, study; kaṟapu to teach; n. instigation, incitement; kaṟapincu to cause to teach; kaṟudu ability, skill, cleverness; kala an art, a science. Kol. karp- (karapt-) to learn, teach; (SR.) karāp- to learn; karīl- to understand. Nk. karap- to learn. Go. (A. Y.) kari- to learn; (SR.) karivāl a student; karusānā to teach; (ChD.) karitānā to learn; karutānā to teach; (Tr.) karītānā to learn; karehtānā to teach; (W. Ph.) karrītānā to learn; (W.) karahtānā, (Ph.) karrahtānā to teach; (Mu.) karī- to learn; karih- to teach; (Ma.) kari- to learn; karˀ - to teach; (M.) karhtānā, (Ko.) kahr- id. (Voc. 531). Pe. jap- to teach; japa- to learn. Manḍ. jap- to teach; japa- to learn. Kui grāmba (grāmbi-) to learn, study; n. act of learning, study; grāppa (grāpt-) to teach, instruct, instigate; n. instruction, teaching, doctrine, instigation. Kuwi (Su.) jāp- (-it-) to learn; (-h-) to teach; (F.) japali to learn; jāphali to teach; (S.) jāpinai to learn; (jāp- < *gjāp- < *gṟāp- = Kui grāp-; likewise in Pe. and Manḍ.). / Cf. Skt. kalā- an art. DED (S) 1090.

1. kalāˊ in Sanskrit is suggested to be from the Dravidian root (Turner).

2927 kalāˊ2 f. ʻ any practical art ʼ R. [← Drav. see kaláyati1: √kal1] Pa. Pk. kalā -- f. ʻ mechanical or elegant art, skill ʼ; K. kal f. ʻ skill, machine ʼ; S. kal, kali f. ʻ machine ʼ (with -- l -- ← E); L. kal f. ʻ trigger of a gun, knowledge, news ʼ; P. kaḷ f. ʻ string attaching warp to ceiling, machine, art, trick ʼ; Ku. kaḷ ʻ machine, plan ʼ, N. kal; B. kal ʻ lock of gun, machine ʼ; Or. kaḷa ʻ any kind of machinery, trick ʼ; Bi. kal ʻ European sugarmill ʼ; H. kal f. ʻ machine, instrument ʼ; G. kaḷ f. ʻ stopcock, door -- handle, scheme, gadget ʼ; M. kaḷ f. ʻ any little contrivance to open or shut with, trick, plan ʼ; Si. kala ʻ dexterity ʼ. -- Connexion with S. kaṛa f. ʻ dike, artificial mound ʼ (LM 307) very doubtful.

References

• Burrow, T., and M. B. Emeneau. A Dravidian etymological dictionary. 2nd ed. Oxford [Oxfordshire]: Clarendon Press, 1984.

• Turner, R. L. (Ralph Lilley), Sir. A comparative dictionary of Indo-Aryan languages. London: Oxford University Press, 1962-1966. Includes three supplements, published 1969-1985.

Chaka

Mmmmmm 45.115.91.136 (talk) 15:49, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Self-contradictory content

The article repeatedly affirms that 'the roots of Kathakali are unclear' but at multiple times gives (apparently) strong facts on its roots. Indielov (talk) 09:05, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Lead too long

Hi, the lead is too long ,i think its better to split the lead for a better understading . Bilgiljilll (talk) 13:52, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Kathakali

Prepare a noat

on Kathakal 2406:8800:9014:5CDB:AD31:B078:52DD:5810 (talk) 15:08, 26 June 2024 (UTC)