Talk:Kevin Sanjaya Sukamuljo

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Kevin Sanjaya Sukamuljo/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 14:26, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures

• It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria -
• It contains copyright infringements -
• It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). -
• It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. -

Links

• There is a link to forbes and instagram in the refs - why are these reliable? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:01, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Remove instagram link, ref #91 is sufficient as a reliable source. Stvbastian (talk) 23:07, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Prose

Lede

• No real reason to link to Indonesia per WP:GEOLAND. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:47, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Done. Stvbastian (talk) 23:21, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

• Are the refs in the lede neccesary? Can't we link in the body? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:47, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Done: Move refs to the body. Stvbastian (talk) 23:21, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

• He is from PB Djarum, a badminton club in Kudus, Central Java and has been a member of the club since 2007 - he isn't from a club, he would be from a place. You could say he plays for PB Djarum. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:47, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

He plays for PB Djarum, and has been a member of the club since 2007. Is it ok? Stvbastian (talk) 23:21, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

• The lede doesn't seem to cover many of the accomplishments of the player. He is a runner-up at the world Junior championships, for example. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:47, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

I only added some important tournaments that the player won. Stvbastian (talk) 23:21, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

• "The Minions" - no need for bold. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:47, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Done Stvbastian (talk) 23:21, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

• bouncing here and there - informal. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:47, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Re-edit. Stvbastian (talk) 23:21, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

• Despicable Me pipes to a redirect. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:47, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Linking to Despicable Me (film). Stvbastian (talk) 23:21, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

• Sukamuljo is one of the quickest players in the badminton world because of his unexpected shots and his ability to know where the next shot will be played. - how does that make him quick? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:47, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Re-edit. I just changed the sentence to a new statement. Stvbastian (talk) 23:21, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

General

• Alvent Yulianto Chandra - our article is at Alvent Yulianto Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Done. Stvbastian (talk) 08:42, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

• Link first usage of badminton Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Done. Stvbastian (talk) 08:42, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

• In general, you need to link the first usage of terms in both the lede and the body, so things like PB Djarum Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Done. Stvbastian (talk) 08:42, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

• Why is the image for 2018 in the 2010-13 section? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Actualy tht image was taken in 2017, so i moved tht to 2017 section. Stvbastian (talk) 20:54, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

• In 2012, Sukamuljo won the U–19 - Under-19. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Done. Stvbastian (talk) 08:42, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

• He was named as the "Future Athlete" - what does this mean, and why is it capitalised? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Lowercase to future athlete. "future athlete" in this part is just like mvp. Stvbastian (talk) 08:42, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

• In December, they were stopped in the quarter-finals of the Indonesia Masters by second seeds Chai Biao and Hong Wei in three games. They ended the 2015 season ranked 16th in the world. - uncited. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Add refs. Stvbastian (talk) 08:42, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

• Here Indonesia had to settle for silver, losing the final 2 matches to 3 against jubilant, first time winner Denmark. - they don't "settle for silver", they won the silver medal. We also shouldn't be saying "jubilant". Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Done. Stvbastian (talk) 08:42, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

• What happened after 2017? The lede says they did a lot in 2018, this needs expansion. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Add 2018 section Stvbastian (talk) 20:54, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

• Are the images for the medals (gold, silver, bronze) like suitable? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes, i think its ok, since most of badminton related articles used tht images. Stvbastian (talk) 20:54, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

• Should we not be defining the flags on first use like for MOS:FLAG? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Since the players officially represents that country, i think the use of flag icons may be relevant without defining the flags. Stvbastian (talk) 20:54, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

• Where are the "achievements" sourced? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

The tables that are listed in achievements section are the conclusions of the career section which already have sources. All the information data from achievements section also can be found in external link. Stvbastian (talk) 08:42, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

• Why are the achevements in block colour? Doesn't this fail MOS:COLOR? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

I think it's ok, just like the other good article pages Andy Murray and Roger Federer. Stvbastian (talk) 08:42, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

• The performance timeline is unsourced. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

The performance timeline are the conclusions of the career section which already have sources. All the information data from performance timeline section also can be found in external link. Stvbastian (talk) 08:42, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

• Record against selected opponents seems like WP:CRUFT. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Since the h2h records always shown on the screen at the BWF tv before the matches begin, i think this stats is important. Stvbastian (talk) 18:29, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• could we get some ALTtext for the images? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Added some ALTtext for the images. Stvbastian (talk) 20:54, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Review meta comments

• I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:26, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Happy to promote. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:23, 18 March 2021 (UTC)