Talk:Khanate of Kokand
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Removed piece
editAll this was way after the Khanate was disbanded, hence irrelevant to the article. Not to say that the piece incorrectly descibes what government was exactly formed, which is already covered in the Jadid article.
- In the wake of riots against the World War I draft and the Russian Revolution of 1917, the Jadidist Mustafa Chokayev established the Provisional Autonomous Government of Turkestan in late 1917, as a nationalist and Muslim alternative to the Tashkent Soviet. The Bolshevik response to this competition was swift and ruthless. The Red Army breached the old city walls in February 1918, setting the city on fire and killing 18,000 inhabitants.‹The template Talkfact is being considered for merging.› [citation needed] Chokayev escaped to France, but his partisans fled into the mountains, where, as basmachi, they continued to fight against the Red Army through the early decades of Soviet rule.
mikka (t) 16:16, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Furthermore I'm pretty sure Mustafa Chokay was involved with the Alash Orda in Semipalatinsk, not the Kokand autonomy. Sikandarji 21:24, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Last Khanate?
editIs this the last Khanate? 89.253.76.90 (talk) 10:10, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Qing kokand relations
editRussian conquest of kokand
http://books.google.com/books?id=XPfcfF8LRWQC&pg=PA46#v=onepage&q&f=false
The source used for Persian does not mention Persian as a state-level language. I am removing it.
- You are right, the source merely mentions Perisan literature. So I restored "Persian," but removed "(official)."--¿3family6 contribs 17:47, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
You can not add Persian as a main language just because there are some books. There were more Arabic books than Persian at that time. Ferghana valley was always Turkic speaking region (at least for last 1000 years). The name of Kokand is turkic (turkic tribe name), and today's Uzbek literature language is based on the dialect of Kokand Khanate. Even Kyrgyz language had more speakers than Tajik. So we have 2 options: a) removing all minor languages (less than 10% combined) and keeping only Uzbek or b) adding other languages such as Kipchak (Kipchak people assimilated by Kyrgyz and Uzbek) and Karakalpak (historically Karakalpaks lived near Naryn river) too. But I would not mess the article with unnecessary references, because I do not know other articles with 4-5 languages mentioned as state languages.
- Okay, go ahead and remove Persian then. I did not know this, I am not at all experienced in this region of the world's history.--¿3family6 contribs 23:46, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Living Members today
editThere is one male member of the former Khante of Kokand
Khan Timur Can born 1978.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Khan-of-Kokand/1528862514001851
There is no living memberNalanidil (talk) 17:51, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Contested deletion
editThis article should not be speedily deleted as being recently created, having no relevant page history and duplicating an existing English Wikipedia topic, because... (your reason here) --PlanespotterA320 (talk) 16:45, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
- DO NOT DELETE! This article this was merged into is about a city called Kokand, this is about the Kokand Empire. Deleting this and merging would be like deleting and merging the article on the Roman Empire into the article about the city of Rome. The city of Kokand is only in Uzbekistan, the Kokand Khanate expanded into areas that are now Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, and Uzbekistan. Other cites besides Kokand were part of the Khanate, like Margilan. This deletion is a product of ignorance on the subject and should be undone promptly!--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 16:45, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
they were shias, not sunnis
editwith official language as farsi, and iran became shia in 1500's, and kokand is established in 1700's, the khanate is surely shia. get your facts straight. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.46.97.221 (talk) 23:30, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Question regarding the list of Khans
editMay I ask the source and/or the background regarding Abdulla Beg who it is said was Khan for only a few days in 1852-1853. I have searched many references and have yet to find even a small reference to this man.
My complements to those of you who have researched the complicated history of Kokand and prepared this excellent summary.
Thank you ~VFF0347~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by VFF0347 (talk • contribs) 05:47, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
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