Talk:Khums
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So what is khums again?
editThe article is long and well-researched, but I am still at a loss about what khums is :). Apparently it does not have to do with the zaqat tax of 5% of belongings. Well, so what is this thing? Do Muslims pay such a 20% income tax now? Did they pay it in the past and then stop? I really think that the article should be made clearer. 76.24.104.52 (talk) 10:11, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Improving the article
editAs a key feature of Twelver Shi'ism, I think this article needs a lot of work. Just some things I noticed with a once over:
- Referencing is very poor
- Block quotes of the Qur'an probably should be avoided
- More detail is needed on the historical development of Khums law in Twelver jurisprudence
- NPOV needs to be maintained
I'd really like to work on this article. I have access to some Arabic and English works that address the subject (both legal manuals and academic articles). I'm wondering if anyone else would like to collaborate? TheSophy (talk) 21:30, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
More improvements
editThere are a couple of suggestions here about improvements, but they don't appear to have been carried out. If there are no objections I will have a stab at it in the next few days. Swanny18 (talk) 20:22, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- OK, there's been no demur at this, so I've (belately!) gone ahead. I've re-titled some of the sections; also, I’ve tried to summarize what this actually is, though I’m swinging in the dark, really. Can someone more familiar with the subject check it for accuracy? And I’ve removed the block quote from Al-Anfal – it shouldn’t be here, and there is both a link to the Al-Anfal article and to websites containing the full text. Swanny18 (talk) 19:09, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
Changes in definition
editBoth Sunnis and Shia pay both Zakat and Khums; however, they differ on what Khums is to be paid on. Changes were made to clear a certain ambiguity that Shias pay Khums and Zakat, while Sunnis only pay Zakat. In addition, I included the Shia debate, that shows where the line differs between the interpretation of the Holy Quran. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Islam9876 (talk • contribs) 07:08, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Khums for Shias?
editReligion may be the only topic that people become adamant and dogmatic. Controversal, elusive, and abstruse. Being open to other people's opinions about religions, whether monotheistic or not, inculcates the virtue of rationcination and the unraveling of nominal versus real magnitudes.
It is important to develop a tolerant and open-minded attitude toward those with different beliefs. Understanding the nature behind every religion is the foundation for being able to choose which one is right.
Can any religious doctrine KNOW their religion is the CORRECT one without being aware of the rest? Can a doctor KNOW his methods of treating a patient are the best if he doesn't know what all the other doctors in the world are doing?
No. Please consider and be aware that under the topic of Khums, I believe it would be valuable to understand BOTH the Sunni and Shia Perspective. Sunnis keep taking down the Shia Perspective on Wikipedia. It is the Shia Perspective. Am I not entitled to my beliefs and to share what I believe to be the truth? It doesn't mean you have to believe it. Read it, compare it, and become educated so that you are able to understand the differnces between the Sunni and Shia POV. Everything stated under the Shia Point of View has been properly citated so if you are dubious to the authenticity of the sources, go check it for yourself.
I will not be posting the Shia view on Khums back on Wikipedia, but if anyone chooses they can look into the history and read what was written.(History under username islam12345). Islam12345 (talk) 22:29, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Assessment comment
editThe comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Khums/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
The article is somewhat under developed under the sunni view |
Last edited at 00:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 21:12, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
Going to begin copy editing
editI’m going to begin copy editing, and suggestions are welcome. Themajesticow (talk) 13:50, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Khums is the Ecnomic System of Islam
editThe Arabic term khums literally means one-fifth. It is referred to as "Earnings,Property Holdings,Profits,Savings " based on the Quran and various Hadiths. In other words, Khums and ghanima are revealed in the Quran. DSaeed111 (talk) 07:53, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
يعني المصطلح العربي خُمس حرفياً الخمس. ويشار إليها باسم "الأرباح ، وحيازات الممتلكات ، والأرباح ، والمدخرات" استناداً إلى القرآن والأحاديث المختلفة. وبعبارة أخرى ، فإن القرآن والخمس يظهران في القرآن DSaeed111 (talk) 08:00, 15 May 2020 (UTC)