Talk:Kinderen voor Kinderen

Latest comment: 4 years ago by JochemvanHees in topic Complete lack of references

Re paragraph suggesting racial bias

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I much appreciate J73's extensive contribution of new material but have nonetheless pulled the following one paragraph, pending improvement. It needs fewer subjective judgements and more specifics and verifiable references. Where/when/in what mainstream medium did Ronald Snijders say the words attributed to him? Ditto for "one reviewer" (who, exactly?). Who says that Snijders represents "the stronger voices in the actual communities"? "A few coloured faces were spotted": who did this counting and spotting when? Also, it is overlinked. To me it seems unnecessary to link to "criticism", "first hand", "communities", or "antidote"; to link to "Surinam" twice; and to link to "choir" again. On the other hand, why not link "flautist"? And there must be a better term than "white-faced" (which links to a disambiguation page listing various animal species).

NB; that's not the only hint of criticism pointed at the choir; although a few coloured faces were spotted since the early days, and album 5 featured songs about first hand racism and colonialism, the stronger voices in the actual communities were not impressed. Surinam-born flautist Ronald Snijders was quoted "If they ask me I'll write them a Surinam-flavoured song". Instead he released his own album of children's songs with one reviewer branding it an antidote for "the white-faced Kinderen voor Kinderen".

--IslandGyrl 02:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Fair use rationale for Image:KvK logo 2.png

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Image:KvK logo 2.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot 23:29, 13 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

This supplementary logo is not essential and strictly speaking is indeed probably not covered by fair use, as the main logo Image:KvK logo.png suffices to identify the subject. As the original uploader I therefore concur with the deletion of this second logo image. -- IslandGyrl 09:21, 16 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Complete lack of references

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This article contains a bunch of outdated and contentious information that should really be referenced, and yet this article contains literally only two refs. According to WP:BLP we must remove poorly sourced material on sight, which would pretty much mean deleting almost the entire article. I thought I'd consult other Wikipedians before taking such a drastic measure. ―JochemvanHees (talk) 09:29, 25 September 2020 (UTC)Reply