Talk:Kingdom of Simien

Reliable source?

This "revelation" seems to be awfully new. Do any major peer-reviewed schools and journals of history know about this Jewish kingdom? Just who is Steve Kaplan, anyway? Most of the info in this article seems to heavily rely on this source, and the other sources here don't seem to corroborate his claims. (see Bruce, who mentions nothing about a Jewish kingdom). --B.BN 18:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

It seems to be mostly referred to in English as "The falasha kingdom" (See link). Since the term Falasha is considered demeaning by the Beta Israel community - I rather we not use that word in the article's name just like we used the name Beta Israel and not Falashas (which the French wikipedia uses). I have just added many more sources to the article. Please help me add more reliable sources. TheCuriousGnome (talk) 15:10, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Kingdom with a capital K?

See here also: Proposals_for_a_Jewish_state. comp.arch (talk) 09:41, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

When wikipedia became the place to spread legends as historical facts ?

Hello,

First sorry for my english it's not my native tongue. Let's talk about the seriousness of the sources i didn't check them all but the half of the sources ve checked are ALL problematic.

1/James Bruce, Travels to Discover the Source of the Nile, Vol. I, p. 485. James Bruce lived in the 18th century and even in his time, the extravagant accounts of his travels made his contemporaries sceptical. In addition, the book is available online and on page 485 reported there is no link between the source and what is stated in the article. Indeed, on this page is reported only the legend that the Ethiopians themselves make of the Queen of Sabbah (the Kingdom of Sheba NEVER was located in Ethiopia in Jewish texts because Kush is the term used for Ethiopia and blacks in general). This process is very dishonest. https://archive.org/details/travelstodiscove01bruc/page/484

2/Sadly i didn't success to get access to the book of Steven Kaplan but it seems to me that his quotes have been taken totally out of context . Steven Kapplan ve written too "The Invention of Ethiopian Jews : Three Models." https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/206a/95a044018b750265d9672b5cfaaf23b0bb5f.pdf which is from far more mitigated on the subject.

3/Here the link of the full book of: "Jamie Stokes, Encyclopedia of the Peoples of Africa and the Middle East" https://zodml.org/sites/default/files/%5BJamie_Stokes%2C_Anthony_Gorman%2C_Andrew_Newman%5D_Ency.pdf And in p249 Vol I have no connection with Ethiopia.

4/The same for: Hannah Adams, The history of the Jews: from the destruction of Jerusalem to the present time. Hannah adams lived ALL this life in the USA so how what she wrote can take so seriously and without critical studies of the text ?It would be like coming to physics class presented Newton's theories as the only valid ones when in reality the knowledge has evolved leading to the fact that some written facts have proved to be false. Once again, the reference cited simply does not exist! https://archive.org/details/historyjewsfrom00adamgoog

Tskhi (talk) 21:08, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Please note that this user has been blocked from the Hebrew Wikipedia for repeated vandalism, as well as for threatening other users with a blend of racist, misogynistic and homophobic slurs. His insistence on vandalizing Wikipedia articles well after his arguments were refuted makes it hard to assume good faith in his case. ליאור • Lior (talk) 10:29, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Ambiguity in article

Hi, I'm writing the post-classical section for History of Africa and I'm struggling to ascertain whether this kingdom is proven to have existed, or whether it is legendary? Alexanderkowal (talk) 20:45, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

This is not to say that legend is false, the Empire of Kitara is only known through oral tradition and is extremely likely to have existed, but if you look at that article, it frames everything very well, while this article makes it ambiguous. Alexanderkowal (talk) 20:47, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Otherwise I really like this article, and I intend to include Simien in my writing if I can get a bit more clarity Alexanderkowal (talk) 20:58, 14 May 2024 (UTC)