Talk:La Carcacha

GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 17:12, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

   b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a. (reference section):

   b. (citations to reliable sources):

   c. (OR):

   d. (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a. (major aspects):

   b. (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

   b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

I will crack on with this today! --K. Peake 17:12, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Pipe EMI Latin to Capitol Latin in the infobox

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Replace hlist with bullet points per Template:Infobox song

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "a song that was recorded by American singer Selena for her third studio album" → "a song recorded by American singer Selena for her third studio album,"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "It was written by" → "The song was written by"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• A. B. Quintanilla → A.B. Quintanilla with the wikilink

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Pipe melodies to Melody

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Reword the emphasized part per it being too repetitive with the body's wording

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• ""La Carcacha" is a Tejano cumbia song that is emblematic of Selena's style," → "It is a Tejano cumbia song that is emblematic of Selena's typical style,"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Pipe music critics to Music journalism

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Remove the release year of the song since that is not needed in the lead

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• ""La Carcacha" has continued to receive" → "it has received" and mention ones this includes

•  Removed – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "in the Broadway musical" → "in the Broadway musical,"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• ""La Carcacha" triple platinum," → "it triple platinum," and make this the second sentence of the second para instead

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Background and inspiration

• Change all mentions to A.B. and wikilink on the first instance

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Remove commas around Joe Ojeda

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Maybe the musical piece part could be simplified to him proclaiming he was inspired to compose by it?

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "he would pursue" → "he would pursue with"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "A month later," → "A month after the hotel incident," or something similar per this being a new para

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• I think a word more encyclopedic than "chagrin" should be used here

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Remove comma before Pete Astudillo

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "yet she remains unperturbed by" → "However, she lacks concern with" as a new sentence to avoid a run-on

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Music and lyrics

• Audio sample looks good!

• Thank you. – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• The first para is slightly out of order; the introduction and countdown parts should be at the end instead

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "It features the characteristic hip-swaying" → "It features the characteristic danceable"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Wikilink tempo to itself

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• The melodies are not mentioned by the source

• It was cited by the wrong source. It has been fixed. – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Remove or replace Newsweek per WP:NEWSWEEK

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "The track bears a" → ""La Carcacha" harbors a"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "for the Del Rio News Herald," → "for the Del Rio News-Herald," with the wikilink

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Wikilink polkas per WP:PIPE

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "melodic hook" which he believed" → "melodic hook", which he believed"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• The Burr ref needs to be re-invoked for the second sentence if that is from [14] instead of [15]

• It's from ref 15. – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Pipe melodies to Melody

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Remove the usage of ultimately because this adds nothing here

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Remove the Roiz lyrics praise since this is trivia

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "on "a junk car"" → "on "a clunker car"" per the source

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Remove the internal qualities sentence, as this is repetitive and adds nothing

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "or lack thereof. The song's lyrics championed the joys" → "or lack thereof, championing the joys"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "and defends her partner" → "and defending her partner"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "with billowing tailpipe smoke" start a new sentence here to avoid a run-on

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "Tejano music often suffered" → "Tejano music had often suffered"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "writing for the Austin American-Statesman, compared its" → "for the Austin American-Statesman, compared the song's"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Remove song after the year because speech marks imply this

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Wikilink Austin American-Statesman on the first instance instead

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "creates an auditory landscape" → "create an auditory landscape"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "Selena's biographer, Joe Nick Patoski, noted that" → "Selena biographer Joe Nick Patoski noted that"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Pipe call-and-response to Call and response

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Commercial and critical performance

• Retitle to Reception per that being what both of these are types of

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "It made its debut on" → "It debuted on"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "peaked at number sixteen on the" → "peaked at number 16 on the US" per MOS:NUM and to specify this is not Mexico

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "The song peaked at number 21" → "It peaked at number 21"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Mention the date the certification was awarded and remove the "has", also should platinum really be capitalized?

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Pipe Houston Astrodome to Astrodome

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Pipe San Antonio Alamodome to Alamodome

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Remove overly obvious wikilinks on Miami and the Carribean

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "which compelled people to dance," → "which compelled them to dance,"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "the closing number for her" → "the closing number for Selena's"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "engaged from start to finish and" → "engaged throughout and"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• The source mentions "washing machine", but not the 1995 concert

• It says "in the music video" which is false, the picture is of the 1995 concert. But I'll just remove it instead. – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Add "the" before Los Dinos

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "of the planet.", according to" → "of the planet", according to" and re-invoke the ref because this sentence uses a direct quote

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "squeezebox instrumental break."" → "squeezebox instrumental break"." per MOS:QUOTE

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Pipe Monterrey, Mexico to Monterrey

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Legacy and impact

• ""La Carcacha" helped increased" → "The song helped increase"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• ""La Carcacha" helped opened" → "The latter helped open"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Start a new sentence at Michael Clark

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• ""La Carcacha" was the inaugural song" → "the former was the inaugural song"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Instead change the live medley sentence to writing that it was identified as a great offering for fans by Fernando Zamora of El Norte since it is jumbled at the moment

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Wikilink Chevrolet

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Pipe Los Angles Auto Show to LA Auto Show

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Add a comma after Selena Forever

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "deeming "La Carcacha" the quintessential" → "deeming it the quintessential"

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "Ana Barbara performed "La Carcacha" at the Selena ¡VIVE!" → "Ana Bárbara performed "La Carcacha" at the Selena ¡Vive!" with the wikilinks

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• "writing for the Tuscon Citizen," → "writing for the Tucson Citizen," with the wikilink

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Remove the comma after Cuco

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• None of the plagiarism info is sourced

• It was removed by accident from a previous edit. I have restored the original source. – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Credits and personnel

• Chris Perez → Chris Pérez with the wikilink

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Chart performance

• Retitle to Charts

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• EFE should not be italicised

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Why are Latin Pop Digital Song Sales and the Mexico chart linked to a section here but neither are in prose?

• The LPDS is, and I've added the Mexico chart in the reception section. – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Certifications

• Good

References

• Copyvio score looks fine at 38.3%!!!

Works cited

• Wikilink Austin American-Statesman on the first instance

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Wikilink El Siglo de Terron

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Pipe Billboard to Billboard (magazine) on the first instance instead

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Pipe The Odessa American to Odessa American

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Pipe The Star Tribune to Star Tribune

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Wikilink Fort Worth Star-Telegram

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• La Nacion → La Nación with the wikilink

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Remove or replace Newsweek per WP:NEWSWEEK

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Pipe Scholastic Library Publishing to Scholastic Corporation

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Pipe Gale Research to Gale (publisher)

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Wikilink Corpus Christi Caller-Times

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Pipe The Monitor to The Monitor (Texas)

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Pipe The Chicago Sun-Times to Chicago Sun-Times

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Wikilink Del Rio News-Herald

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• CNN en Espanol → CNN en Español with the wikilink

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Wikilink Tuscan Citizen

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Pipe Little Brown and Company to Little, Brown and Company

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Pipe EMI Latin to Capitol Latin

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Wikilink San Antonio Current

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Abilene Reporter News → Abilene Reporter-News with the wikilink

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Wikilink University of Minnesota Press

•  Done – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed; that went at a decent pace! --K. Peake 08:16, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Thank you for reviewing the article. I have fixed the issues you have raised. Best – jona ✉ 15:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

✓ Pass now, I had to do some copy editing but good work from you still, of course! --K. Peake 07:04, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your review! – jona ✉ 15:07, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 22:33, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that after seeing a broken car, A.B. Quintanilla proclaimed his desire to make the song "La Carcacha" about it? Source: Quintanilla, Selena (2002). Entre a Mi Mundo (Media notes). A.B. Quintanilla (producer), Suzette Quintanilla (spoken liner notes producer). EMI Latin.
  • ALT1: ... that the song "La Carcacha" played a pivotal role in making Selena popular in both the Tejano and Mexican music industry? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/image/813129941/? , San-Juan, Rocio (December 1992). "Selena y Los Dinos: La Revelacion del '92". Norteña Musical (23). Entro fuerte y con el pie derecho cantando su "Carcacha", cancion que le dio el exito definintivo entre el publico Mexicano.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/List of British parliamentarians who died in the First World War

Improved to Good Article status by AJona1992 (talk) and Kyle Peake (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 19:10, 24 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/La Carcacha; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Article was promoted to GA within a week of promotion. Long enough and plenty well-cited, no close paraphrasing detected. Approve ALT0 as more interesting; ALT1 is also interesting but I think a fact like that needs a citation with more retrospective distance than 1992. DigitalIceAge (talk) 20:03, 26 April 2023 (UTC)