Talk:Leader head

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Rename as Leader Head

This stub seems to discuss what is known in architecture and construction as either a Leader Head or Conductor Head.--Teda13 (talk) 16:54, 11 November 2008 (UTC)--Teda13 (talk) 03:24, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Possibly. Never heard either of those terms. In Australia it is called a rain head, see http://www.steelselect.com/products/search.php?sid=0&state=0&supplier_id=0&category_id=95. I suppose now we'll have to have a fact template on it and some poor sod will have to drag out their roof plumbing text book. SilentC (talk) 22:58, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

By all means, please do / "text book" / so the stub will have at least one reference and and have a reference that's not directly from a manufacturer. I suggest NCRA, SMACNA, Architectural Graphic Standards, or for basic textbooks - anything by Ching.--Teda13 (talk) 01:44, 12 November 2008 (UTC)--Teda13 (talk) 01:41, 12 November 2008 (UTC)--Teda13 (talk) 03:24, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I've actually lost interest in editing articles and pretty much just revert vandalism these days. All this referencing business just makes the whole process uninteresting to me, so I'm opting out of this one. If you want to rename the article to one of the US terms, by all means do so. All I ask is that you at least mention rain head as an alternative term. If you want to dispute that rain head is in fact a legitimate term for the item, well really I can't be bothered with it so I guess the article will suffer for it. It's all yours. SilentC (talk) 02:20, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Requested move 1

Rainhead → Leader Head — neutrality of the title challenged / unreferenced stub that originator will not improve or clarify — Teda13 (talk) 06:12, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

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• Support - A Visual Dictionary of Architecture / Frances D.K. Ching , ISBN 0442009046; Architectural Graphic Standards/ Ramsey and Sleeper, ISBN 0471348163; Architectural Sheet Metal Manual / SMACNA, ASIN: B000B5L7TM --Teda13 (talk) 07:12, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Discussion

The definitive name, according to neutral (academic texts, professional guidebooks and industry association references) is Leader Head.--Teda13 (talk) 06:39, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

In the UK that term is unknown, they are hoppers or hopper heads, see http://www.rainwatergoods.co.uk/products-hopper.html for example. Commonly plastic, otherwise lead or cast iron, rarely sheet metal. ProfDEH (talk) 22:13, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 03:20, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

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Leader Head → Leader head — Relisted. I'm relisting this since it was just tagged today with the template so the clock begins today and not several months ago. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:15, 27 February 2011 (UTC) "Leader head" is a common noun: it should be in sentence case (lower case initials) as per WP:Manual of Style#Article titles.5BR.5D. Richard New Forest (talk) 19:53, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

• Support. Uncontroversial IMO. Andrewa (talk) 02:48, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

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