Talk:Leader of the Government in the Senate (Australia)
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editWhy are there two columns marked "Term began" and "Term ended" and then another two marked "Term start" and "Term end"? They appear to be almost identical. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 18:30, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
Simon Birmingham
editWe currently list Simon Birmingham as Senate leader from 23 to 28 August during the leadership crisis. However, his parliamentary bio doesn't mention that he held the office, and Mathias Cormann's bio doesn't mention that he relinquished the office. I have a vague memory of Cormann announcing his resignation, but apparently it didn't go into effect. I would assume that Birmingham was simply the acting leader during this time. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 18:06, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
It seems we have decided to not list Simon Birmingham as Senate leader from 23 to 28 August but his parlimentary bio has since been updated. It indicates that Senator Birmingham was indeed the Senate Leader from 23 to 28 August and Mathias Cormann's bio also reflects the change. I just made an account to voice this discrepancy but didn't want to change the article immediately, seeing as it has been discussed before and I am a novice. BalticBaronet (talk) 12:59, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
Robert Ray
editI remembering reading an SMH article just after the defeat of the Keating Government in 1996 that Robert Ray had been the Government Senate leader following Gareth Evans' resignation from the Senate in order for his successful transfer to the House of Representatives.
Perhaps Ray should be listed here. 122.106.83.10 (talk) 08:50, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Requested move 25 October 2020
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 02:08, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Leader of the Government in the Senate (Australia) → Leader of the Government in the Senate – The closest Canadian equivalent of the Australian position is simply called the Representative of the Government in the Senate so the disambiguation page for "Leader of the Government in the Senate" is unnecessary. Egroeg5 (talk) 20:51, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:53, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Egroeg5: page Leader of the Government in the Senate is a disambig page. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:54, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Anthony Appleyard: What do you think of the argument that because the only other listing on the disambig page is a Canadian position that no longer exists, we don't need the disambig page anymore? If we need to, we could add a Template:Distinguish or similar to the Australian page? Egroeg5 (talk) 01:27, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- The Canadian position will survive in many people's memories, and will turn up in old accounts of events read by people who are not Canadian and may not know that that position no longer exists. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:31, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose retain (Australia), this title will be confusing to readers, and therefore fails WP:CRITERIA. Besides, there's nothing shameful about having (Australia) on an Australia article. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:23, 26 October 2020 (UTC)