Talk:Lenin–Stalinnьꞑ tugunuꞑ adaa-pile

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 00:41, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that in 1943 the journal Lenin–Stalinnьꞑ tugunuꞑ adaa-pile classified Tuvan folklore with emphasis on its class and national character? Source: Основные проблемы изучения поэтического творчества народов Сибири и Дальнего Востока: доклады, сообщения и выступления участников Конференций по изучению поэтического творчества народов Сибири и Дальнего Востока, 14-19 декабря, 1959 г. AN SSSR, Sibirskoe otdelenie, 1961. p. 77
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Adelaide L. T. Douglas House
  • Comment: can we move this to Lenin–Stalinnьꞑ tugunuꞑ adaa-pile?

Created by Soman (talk). Self-nominated at 19:10, 9 September 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lenin–Stalinnin tugunun adaa-pile; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Hi, nice work! I really like Soviet publications, so enjoyed the read. Article was new and created by submitter at time of nom, reliably sourced, and well-written. One image that's fair use. No issues with copyvio or POV. However, three things: first, correct me if I'm wrong but you want to move the page to "Lenin–Stalinnьꞑ tugunuꞑ adaa-pile" instead, correct? Can you explain justification for that? Either way, I think you're free to make the move if you believe it's the right call. Second, can you provide a translation of the relevant parts of the source you provided to prove the claims in the DYK? I can read basic Russian and struggle through with a dictionary but am not 100% confident in my ability. Third, the DYK of the nom I think could be improved; I'm unsure of whether the classification is of Tuvan folklare as a whole (i.e. "All Tuvan folklore is x") or classifying individual myths (i.e. "This Tuvan myth is y"). Also I think it's at the cusp of being more interesting; analysis of culture using Marxist frameworks is generally expected. Are there any interesting classifications that they made? toobigtokale (talk) 00:40, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

• Hi toobigtokale. Many thanks, I'll try to address the hook/sourcing issue. In the meanwhile, the issue about move is that as a non-admin, I can't move the article to Lenin–Stalinnьꞑ tugunuꞑ adaa-pile due to the unusual Latin characters. I think that with a redirect from standard Latin characters the article would be better located at the correct location as it was written in Tuvan. --Soman (talk) 12:10, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

• Ah I see; I think per WP:UE it'd be preferrable to have the title in purely Latin characters. A redir from non-Latin title to Latin maybe could be ok? But not 100% needed I think. toobigtokale (talk) 14:57, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

In regards to alt hook, what about ALT1 "... that in 1944 the Tuvan language journal Lenin–Stalinnьꞑ tugunuꞑ adaa-pile switched from Latin to Cyrillic script?" --Soman (talk) 15:39, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Sorry for late reply—yes that hook sounds good. If you can drop a specific source here for that claim I'm willing to move towards approval. I think I know what source it is from the body, but it's not 100% directly stated I think. toobigtokale (talk) 13:24, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

I've expanded the sentence talking about the script switch, it now says "Until the end of 1944 the Tuvan version was written in new Tuvan Latin script, after which it switched to Cyrillic script". I added a link to Yañalif in the ALT1 hook. --Soman (talk) 19:56, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Ok! Approved for ALT1. toobigtokale (talk) 10:00, 19 October 2023 (UTC)