Talk:Lingua Malabar Tamul

Ambiguity Solved

Ambiguity on Portuguese and aristocrats solved. ★★★PROCEDAMUS IN PACE★★★ REPLY 07:21, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Confusing

Doctrina Christam/Thambiran vanakkam

Flos Santorum/Kirisithiani Vanakkam

This article is wrong. It says "Malabar Tamul" was a "writing scheme" and indicates roman characters were used to print the Malayalam/Tamil/local language. But it goes on name Henrique Henriques's Doctrina Christam as an example. That work was printed in proper Tamil grantha script - not roman script and not the Malayala grantha script. Then how can this be a unique writing scheme?. Same is the case for Flos Santorum (Kirisithiani vanakkam). - Both are Tamil books written and printed in modern Tamil script. Also, the cartilha work whose picture is given is Tamil written in Roman letters - not malabar Tamul. The title of the book says Cartilho che conte brevemente ho q todo christavo deve aprender pera sua saluacum, a qual el rey dom joham terceiro deste nome nosso senhor mandou imprimir e lingua Tamul e Portugues co ha declaracum do Tamul por Cima de vermelho (Primer which contains in brief all that a Christian should know for his salvation and for which our lord, the king Dom John III, had ordered to be printed in the Tamil language and in Portuguese with the Tamil meaning printed above in red)[1]. Note there is no mention of "Malabar" here.

In short a)cartilha wasn't a "malabar tamul" book - it was a Tamil book written in roman script b)Henrique's books were printed in modern tamil grantha script - which he called "Malabar Tamul". "Malabar Tamul" was not a separate writing scheme- it was the name given to Tamil and Malayalam by the Europeans in 16 century. The article creator hasn't been active since nov 2010 and i will wait to see if someone else responds, else i will take this to AfD to get more input--Sodabottle (talk) 05:19, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Malayalam-Tamil or Lingua Malabar Tamul was a variant of Tamil spoken in Tamil Nadu exclusively used only in Kerala. This Tamil was slightly different from Tamil spoken in Tamil Nadu. The Tamil printing was done from Quilon Thalassery and Ambalakkadu near Angamaly in the Malayalam Heartland. The deliberate promotion of Sanskrit and Tulu Grantha Bhasa written with Tulu Script by the British East India Company was a conspiracy aimed at controlling Kerala while suppressing Dravidians of Kerala. Not only they succeded in changing the Dravidian tongue of Kerala they spread tales such as Parasuramas creation of Kerala. The British suppressed all the information regarding the ancient Dravidian history and the Tamil Chera kingdom. The British promoted all those in Kerala with Non Dravidian origins. (The Aryans and Nagas of Ahichatram and the heavily Portuguese mixed Christians of Kerala and Aryan Brahmins from Madras}. Tulu Grandha Bhasa aritten with Tulu Script was used effectively to suppress the Dravidian identitity in Kerala.

Vilmeenkodi (talk) 18:12, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

You dont have no research but personal narration which counted as fiction.This Idea is seems like the Fake Histories the Tamil Chroniclers used to propogate like Kumari Kandam and Invasion of Jewish Brahmins.It is so unfortunate to have such mafe uo stories by Language jinkoists to be reflecting in Wikipedia and it is odd. Skylark95choppen (talk) 01:13, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Wrong information provided.

This article is confusing without any sources and attestations and various topics are related to this article. Lingua Malabar Tamoulis a writing scheme adopted to print books and also as a historical dialect by some communities. The concepts of language, script and writing system mixed in this article. Several aspects are against the Some languages. The Wikipedia has negative and bias opinions towards Sanskrit in this article. Tulu Grantha Bhasha. Grantha is a script not a language. There is no relationship between Tulu and this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ಶ್ರೀ (talk • contribs) 17:06, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Fake Page

There is no relevence on this page because of lack of evidence and it seems to be like trying to prove something delibrately.Scrap this page immediatly Skylark95choppen (talk) 01:08, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Rewriting

I am rewriting this article. So far corrected lead to avoid confusion. More treatment is needed. --99v (talk) 19:10, 13 April 2020 (UTC)