Talk:List of American football stadiums by capacity
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Capacity vs. record attendance
editGiven that the name given to the article and the ordering is capacity, as well as being the most objective measure; the ranking should be by the official seating capacity and not the record crowd. There's no way to know how the number for a record attendance/crowd is arrived at, nor is it appropriate to describe the stadium by that number if it's only achieved on a single occasion by the use of temporary stands or other measures. AUTiger » talk 19:21, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
The ranking is by official capacity. What gave you the impression that record crowds had anything to do with it? Willy turner (talk) 16:33, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Why Just NFL and NCAA?
editWhat about including the arena teams and the like? Also if there are any stadiums that are not in use currently but still usable. This just includes currently used NFL and NCAA stadiums. Just some suggestions. Fleetflame (talk) 03:57, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- No arena would be able to fit the 40,000 capacity limit and listing them would be too long and redundant. For a list of indoor arenas, see List of indoor arenas in the United States. As for stadiums not currently used for football but can be, I can't think of any. A lot of the older stadiums that were used have been taken down. We do have List of stadiums by capacity. Perhaps one day I'll start on one for historical stadiums with a capacity greater than 100,000. Patken4 (talk) 22:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- I know one you can add, Rheinstadion The C of E (talk) 20:14, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Add record attendance column?
editSince most stadiums routinely exceed the published capacity, I think a record attendance column would be helpful Corpx (talk) 01:04, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think this could work. However I do see a couple potential issues with this that would need to be agreed upon before starting this.
- 1. How do we handle stadiums where the record attendance occurred in a different configuration? For instance, Soldier Field has a capacity of around 61,000 people today, but the record attendance for football is something like 112,000. Do we use the 112,000 and say that occurred at a different time?
- 2. How do we handle stadiums that their record attendance did not occur for football? The LA Coliseum's highest attendance is actually for baseball. It would seem to me we have limit this to only football.
- 3. What about stadiums where we can't find the record attendance?
- 4. Do we include closed stadiums? John F. Kennedy Stadium in Philadelphia comes to mind.
- 5. Should this information be in a new list? I know I started the List of sporting venues with a highest attendance of 100,000 or more article, and some of the bigger stadiums on this list do have their record attendance listed there. If we do a new list, we should include other stadiums, particularly in Europe, and limit the list to only those with a highest attendance of 50,000 or more (or an even higher figure). Patken4 (talk) 12:05, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'd propose a new page for the teams in Europe and their stadiums with a closed list in it and a minimum capacity of 15,000 The C of E (talk) 16:46, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
- 15,000 is way too small as there would be hundreds, perhaps over a thousand, of stadiums. 30K or 40K is better. Remember, this list wouldn't be for a specific sport where there aren't many stadiums but rather an entire continent. Patken4 (talk) 17:20, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
outside US
editcan this list include american football stadiums outside of America? The C of E (talk) 17:34, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- There's no reason one can't be added, but it looks like a team that plays American football should be a primary tenant. Rogers Centre and Wembley only hosts occasional games. After the demise of NFL Europa, I can't think of a major stadium outside the US that has an American football team as a primary tenant. Thanks! Patken4 (talk) 21:23, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Theres the Don Valley Stadium which hosts the annual Britbowl The C of E (talk) 06:44, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
- But that's still only one game per year. Rogers Centre hosts the International Bowl every year, plus one or two Buffalo Bills games every year. It's not listed because it doesn't host a team that plays Am. football as a primary tenant. It hosts a Canadian Football League team, but not an American football team. Some stadiums, such as Independence Stadium, host local high schools. Plus, Don Valley has permanent seating for only 25,000. Jacksonville Municipal Stadium can hold 84,000 with temporary seating, but has 76,867 permanent seats and is listed as such. I will revert your edit for now. If others think this was incorrect, it can added back in. Thanks! Patken4 (talk) 01:19, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- Why was Wembley Stadium included again? I thought it only hosts 1 regular-season NFL game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.23.67.67 (talk) 23:03, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
- But that's still only one game per year. Rogers Centre hosts the International Bowl every year, plus one or two Buffalo Bills games every year. It's not listed because it doesn't host a team that plays Am. football as a primary tenant. It hosts a Canadian Football League team, but not an American football team. Some stadiums, such as Independence Stadium, host local high schools. Plus, Don Valley has permanent seating for only 25,000. Jacksonville Municipal Stadium can hold 84,000 with temporary seating, but has 76,867 permanent seats and is listed as such. I will revert your edit for now. If others think this was incorrect, it can added back in. Thanks! Patken4 (talk) 01:19, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- Theres the Don Valley Stadium which hosts the annual Britbowl The C of E (talk) 06:44, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Former or Demolished stadiums
edit(just thought i'd check before I add it) Would it be acceptable to add a list of former or demolished stadiums to this page to give out more information and make the page better? The C of E (talk) 17:43, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
- As a separate list in the article or within the existing list? I'd probably go along with some sort of an addition, but I'd like others input about this. Thanks! Patken4 (talk) 01:22, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- As a separate list in the article I think would be good as with list of stadiums by capacity The C of E (talk) 06:53, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'd definitely do it in a different table in the article, but yeah, I think it's a good idea. Rtr10 (talk) 07:26, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- As a separate list in the article I think would be good as with list of stadiums by capacity The C of E (talk) 06:53, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Temporary seating
editDoes anyone think that the list should also include temporary seating in there as well? The C of E (talk) 19:20, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- I would probably say no, mostly because it opens the door for standing room/standing sections to be inserted. A lot of these stadiums, mostly with the college venues, have record attendances that are higher than the seating capacity. I'd like to see what others say, however. Patken4 (talk) 02:04, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- Patken4, I know you said no in your previous comment and I respect that. I only made this discussion for other editors to put in their input The C of E (talk) 16:34, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
This sentence needs to be phrased better
edit"The United States is unique in that twenty of its twenty-one largest stadiums are home to a college team, not a professional one."
That isn't true. Twenty of it's twenty-two largest stadiums are home to a college team, one (the Cotton Bowl) doesn't have a home team, and one is home to a professional team. You could say 21 of its 22 largest aren't home to a professional team, or 20 of its 22 are home to a college team, or you could phrase it as I've written, but as it's currently written, it's incorrect. 68.45.109.136 (talk) 03:50, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Outdated Information
editThis information is outdated. Alabama has over 101,000.
- Not yet. No official capacity has been announced yet for the expansion. Patken4 (talk) 13:11, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
add year constructed
editthe only problem i see here is stadia that have been significantly expanded: should it list the original date or the renovation date? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.96.201.82 (talk) 23:49, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
New Medowlands Stadium
editArticle lists the capacity as 2,500. Surely this cannot be right? I have amended the seating with information that I have found on three different websites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.61.67.170 (talk) 18:01, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
Beaver Stadium is Missing
editBeaver Stadium (home field for Penn State University, in State College/University Park, Pennsylvania) provides a seating capacity of approximately 107,282, which would place it at #2 in the current list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.9.154.10 (talk) 19:39, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
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AT&T stadium is a problem...
editThe introductory paragraph for this section says "ordered by seating capacity" (and then contradicts itself by saying "which is the maximum number of spectators the stadium can accomodate").
Elsewhere the section for AT&T stadium gives it's seating capacity as 80,000, and gives 105,000 as the total capacity including standees (note that, based on the Super Bowl attendance, the 105,000 number is very doubtful. Something like 96,000 fans actually had a field view for the Super Bowl).
To make this article internally consistant, I propose that the introductory paragraph be changed to "ordered by seating capacity (which is the maximum number of spectators the stadium can seat)". And that the table be changed to place AT&T stadium in the 26th row, with a capacity of 80,000. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.180.123.64 (talk) 20:05, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- Agreed. This articles contradicts List_of_stadiums_by_capacity On that list, NY Giants MetLife Stadium is the largest capacity with 82,500. ask123 (talk) 01:02, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Many of these figures are just plain wrong...
editThis article contradicts the very well sourced article, List_of_stadiums_by_capacity. The problem is that the max capacity numbers here are not calculated using consistent rules. Sometimes it represents standing capacity; sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it's the number of seats; sometimes it isn't. This is obviously very misleading. Not only do these figures not conform to the figures in List_of_stadiums_by_capacity, but, worse yet, they are also not comparable on an "apples to apples" basis with each other. ask123 (talk) 01:15, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- Well, I'm not sure your're right about the List_of_stadiums_by_capacity being well sourced. The first disparity is for Ohio State, the citation in List_of_stadiums_by_capacity is a 404 link, while the one in this list goes to a page at OSU which confirms the number given here. But I agree that different venues use different means of determining capacity; I don't see a good way to resolve that and I think we're pretty much stuck with the venue's claimed capacity for each stadium. I agree that it should be seating capacity, and that it should be permanent seats, and that for this list it should be capacity when configured for football; the trick is in finding a reference that clearly follows that rule. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.180.123.64 (talk) 16:01, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- Compared the first 25 from this list with List_of_stadiums_by_capacity. The differences are AT&T stadium (correct permanent capacity appears to be 80,000), Ohio Stadium (correct appears to be 102,329 per university website), Rose Bowl (correct appears to be 92,542 per Rose Bowl website), Nebraska Memorial (correct appears to be 87,091, altho all the university sites and publications just say "capacity around 90,000" or something similar), and Fed-Ex (correct appears to be 79,000 fixed seats, 82,000 including standing room). There's a couple of other cases where List_of_stadiums_by_capacity gives a different number because it's giving capacity for something other than football (e.g. the Silverdome). I'm going to assume that where the two lists agree, they're probably correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.180.123.64 (talk) 18:07, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
H. H. H. Metrodome
editH. H. H. Metrodome has since been demolished. It should be moved from current to former. Any simple Google search will verify this fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.174.206.220 (talk) 02:45, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
Less than 30,000 seats in Old City Stadium
editThere are less than 30,000 seats in the Old City Stadium (bottom of the demolished header). It says "Currently all football stadiums with a capacity of 30,000 or more are included." If someone could check this out, that would be great. I may be seeing this wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.237.96.168 (talk) 23:59, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
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Add Hancock Whitney Stadium (new, Alabama, seating 25,450)
editAdd Hancock Whitney Stadium (new, Alabama, seating 25,450) Snowman727 (talk) 20:18, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Feel free to add it with a reliable source. glman (talk) 02:44, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Smaller stadiums
editIs it allowed to add the stadiums with a capacity below 25,000? I've added those, but the stadiums were removed. 80.57.47.217 (talk) 13:09, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- We should not add even smaller stadiums. Below the current capacity, notability becomes questionable, and the article becomes too long (WP:BETTER#SIZE). glman (talk) 15:57, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Bristol Motor Speedway
editDoes Bristol Motor Speedway count as a former stadium? 161.132.241.124 (talk) 21:40, 28 June 2024 (UTC)