Talk:List of NHL career assists leaders
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Incorrect info
editThis list is incorrect. According to the list most of these guys played in twice as many games in their careers as it took for them to notch 1000 assists and barely tallied over 1000 assists total. More to the point, Gordie Howe scored his 1000th point in the 60–61 season, not his 1000th assist. He would not hit that mark until near the end of his career. I do not have the appropriate information to fill this page out correctly, but it is inaccurate as it stands.
Sports jargon
editWhy do editors of sports articles assume that the world understands their jargon?--SilasW (talk) 20:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Assessment
editIt appears that the list has been adjusted since the posting of the comment regarding incorrect info. Plenty more info could be added to the list though. Infero Veritas (talk) 16:33, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
The minimum should be lower than 1000
edit750 assists, halfway between 500 goals and 1000 points, would result in a list of 44 players. 600 assists, the NHL Milestone Award mark, would result in a list of 92 players. --208.101.161.48 (talk) 13:35, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Requested move 18 June 2023
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved to List of NHL career assists leaders. A consensus formed around moving to "NHL" over "National Hockey League" for consistency with similar articles, which can be discussed in a new RM if necessary. (non-admin closure) WPscatter t/c 06:13, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
List of NHL players with 1,000 assists → List of National Hockey League career assists leaders – I believe that this article should be changed so as to include the top fifty NHL players with the most assists. Including the top fifty is a convention in articles about the leaders in sports statistics (examples: NBA points, rebounds, assists, steals, turnovers, three-point field goals, free throws, free throw %, seasons, games, minutes and triple-doubles, NFL passing yards, passing touchdowns, passing completions, receiving yards, etc.). In fact, my contribution that expanded the former article to the top 100 players was reverted. The main exception to this rule are the MLB articles, which tend to include more players. On the other hand, this article only includes thirteen players who have more than 1,000 assists. Despite this, the 1,000 assists milestone is rarely discussed, unlike the 500 goal milestone. As 208.101.161.48 mentioned, the NHL Milestone Award for assists is 600. Furthermore, this article oddly includes retired players with 900 to 999 assists. Why shouldn't we just have one list of NHL players with the most assists instead of this out of place list. I believe that expanding this article can get it out of the start-class category and provide much more useful information. Cyrobyte (talk • email) 05:08, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment I brought this up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey. Masterhatch (talk) 12:29, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- Support Consistent with Wikipedia:Naming conventions (lists):
I'm also fine if "NHL" remains in the title.—Bagumba (talk) 15:59, 18 June 2023 (UTC)The title is not expected to contain a complete description of the list's subject. Many lists are not intended to contain every possible member, but this does not need to be explained in the title itself...Instead, the detailed criteria for inclusion should be described in the lead, and a reasonably concise title should be chosen for the list.
- Conditional Support: I would keep it as "NHL". Considering this list is so short, a list that expands to the top 50 works well. I'd also be fine with the top 100 in the future if anyone wanted. Conyo14 (talk) 19:08, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom, Bagumba's citing naming conventions.
As for National Hockey League vs. NHL, I think National Hockey League is the better choice per MOS:ACROTITLE and articles linked by Cyrobyte (although I personally prefer NHL for brevity).Unrelated to the naming, I think we should start with top 50 as the criteria (consistent with other sports articles and easier to maintain), and go from there. Wracking talk! 22:29, 18 June 2023 (UTC) - Support. I too support the suggested changes. The question, I think, is "NHL" or "National Hockey League"? I think Nationial Hockey League is better with NHL as a redirect. Masterhatch (talk) 22:35, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- More re: "NHL" Currently, it looks like "NHL" is the norm for lists under Category:Lists of National Hockey League players. Perhaps discuss that aspect en masse, separately, if needed.—Bagumba (talk) 00:38, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
- In that case, I would agree with going with "NHL" as it is the norm for similar articles, and have a later discussion if needed. Wracking talk! 01:55, 19 June 2023 (UTC)