Talk:List of animated series with LGBT characters: 2005–2009

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Comments are welcome, as this may still be too big of a page, although I think dividing it into a sub-page is justified. This suggestion came from John_B123.--Historyday01 (talk) 01:32, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Confirmation and the use of secondary sources

I'm posting this to head off any criticism of this article that secondary sources are used to prove the LGBTQ identities of the characters listed on this page. According to WP:YTCOPYRIGHT, specifically the original research section,

All material in Wikipedia articles must be attributable to a reliable published source. This means a reliable published source must exist for it, whether or not it is cited in the article. Sources must support the material clearly and directly: drawing inferences from multiple sources to advance a novel position is prohibited by the NOR policy. Base articles largely on reliable secondary sources. While primary sources are appropriate in some cases, relying on them can be problematic. For more information, see the Primary, secondary, and tertiary sources section of the NOR policy, and the Misuse of primary sources section of the BLP policy.

Furthermore, on WP:NOR, it says:

Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources and primary sources. Secondary or tertiary sources are needed to establish the topic's notability and to avoid novel interpretations of primary sources. All analyses and interpretive or synthetic claims about primary sources must be referenced to a secondary or tertiary source, and must not be an original analysis of the primary-source material by Wikipedia editors.

As such, citing sources like IGN, Anime News Network, Okazu (Erica Friedman's yuri review blog), T.H.E.M. Anime Reviews, BuzzFeed, Den of Geek, Mania, Out, the various GLAAD reports, and many others cited on the main page, are totally acceptable. When it comes to anime, official sites often are limited in the characters they talk about (usually only the protagonists, not the secondary characters for the most part) or give the characters biographies by putting text within images, making translation of the text impossible unless you are fluent in Japanese. This also means that primary sources are NOT necessarily needed to show the LGBTQ identity of any of the characters listed on this page. Such sources are nice, but they are not always available, especially if the show is an anime or is relatively obscure, and are also not necessary!

I just thought I'd point this out before some editor comes along and tries to remove content here. Historyday01 (talk) 13:33, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Entries which need better sources

Like the section on the Talk:List of animated series with LGBT characters: 2000–2004 page, this section compiles entries which need better sources. The Grell Sutcliffe entry is ok, except I can't find any official confirmation of transness, as it isn't even implied on an official character entry on this page, to give an example, or in the entries for Leeron Littner in Gurren Lagann here and here. This is also the case for Koyomi and Yomi Yoimachi in Zombie Loan, as character pages, like this one, are not accessible. I'm trying to ensure that every entry, if at all possible, has one primary source entry, and another secondary source entry, at minimum.

Duration	Show title	Character debut date	Characters	Identity	Notes	Country
2005	Sukisho	January 8, 2005	Sori Hashiba	Gay	This anime follows the story of Sora, who falls off a four-story building, waking up Sunao, and none of his former memories, not remembering Sunao is one of his dear friends. Both Sori and Sunao have alternate personalities, named Yuru and Ran respectfully, which form "a romantic and passionate bond."	Japan
			Sunao Fujimori
	Ultimate Girls	January 10, 2005	Vivenne Ōtori	Lesbian	One of Silk's best friends, described by one reviewer as "the older-sister lesbian." Vivienne is the first to learn how their powers are supposed to work, by being embarrassed, they generate an energy which can be projected as a weapon against the giant monsters. She has a secret crush on Silk, who cares for, even distracting the monster so Silk can have a date with Makoto, the school photographer at an amusement park in episodes 6 and 9.
2005–present	American Dad!	June 12, 2005	Linda Memari	Bisexual	Linda is one of the neighbors of the Smith family and a bisexual Iranian-American woman. Linda saved Francine from the Lady Bugs, a social group for women who cheat on their husbands, by kissing her in the episode "Not Particularly Desperate Housewives." It has been suggested that Linda may not be attracted to her husband. In an attempt to hit on Francine, in the episode "Rough Trade," she rearranged her clothes to make her bust more prominent and knocked on the Smiths' door (prompting a drunk Stan to comment "When did you get those?"). After thinking that Stan was beating Francine, she makes an awkward excuse to leave. Francine then says, "She's a weird chick." Linda's husband is apparently resigned to her preferences, and asks, in a defeated tone, if he can "at least watch this time" when he sees Linda eying Francine.	United States
2006	Happiness!	October 5, 2006	Jun Watarase	Gay or Trans woman	Despite reportedly being born male, Jun is alluded to being either an androgynous gay boy who crossdresses, in episodes such as "The Shikimori Treasure," to appear as a girl or a transwoman largely due to the fact that in the OVA, "The Brilliant Day of Jun Watarase," she was happy to have been turned into a girl.	Japan
	Tactical Roar	January 7, 2006	Mitori Shimabara	Bisexual	She is the ship's physician, is friendly to all on the ship, and constantly flirts with people, including Hyosuke, even though she is married. She also plays with the captain when she is drunk.	Japan
	Tsuyokiss Cool×Sweet	July 1, 2006	Erika Kiriya	Lesbian	She is the arrogant student council president who is nicknamed Hime (姫), meaning Princess, by her peers, as shown in "Nice To Meet You! I'm Sunao Konoe!" As the president, she has a lot of power within the school and is often seen as an intimidating figure to overcome in episodes such as "I Hate The Student Council!!" While in any adaptations of the work she is inclined to flirt with other girls and even try to seduce Yoshimi, like in the anime's first episode, only accidentally interrupted by Sunao. Erika is one of the canonical love interests of the protagonist in the original visual novel.	Japan
	Witchblade	May 3, 2006	Shiori Tsuzuki	Lesbian	She is a lesbian and is sexually infatuated with her employer, whom she affectionately addresses as "Sensei," and is a Cloneblade, shown in episodes like "Search" and "Past." During her fight with Masane, the hero of the story, her Cloneblade is critically damaged, meaning that her impulses and emotion become enslaved by the carnal drive of her powerful cloneblade. She quickly becomes a psychotic maniac, slaughtering, seeking fight and even raping for pure pleasure, succeeding, in the end, by unlocking the full powers of the Cloneblade albeit for a short moment, although this is not, ultimately, successful.
2007	Gurren Lagann	April 8, 2007	Leeron Littner	Gay	Leeron is a flamboyant homosexual and flirts with Kamina, Simon, Gimmy and Viral as shown in episodes like "Said I'm Gonna Pilot That Thing!!"	Japan
	Ice	May 27, 2007	Yuki Ice-T	Lesbian	Yuki, after meeting the series protagonist, Hitomi Landsknecht, the captain of the Guardswomen, tries to get them to kiss in the show's first episode. While this is denied, they grow closer by the end of the episode and through the rest of the series. In later episodes, they show their fondness for each other, especially Yuki for Hitomi, but is also reciprocated with both hugging each other in the last episode. The final episode culminates in Hitomi's death, trying to defeat the monstrosity and save Yuki.	Japan
			Hitomi Landsknecht
	Ikki Tousen: Dragon Destiny	February 26, 2007	Ekitoku Chōhi	Bisexual	Best friend of Ruubi, lover of snacks, and said to be a legendary warrior one day.	Japan
	Nodame Cantabile	January 25, 2007	Masumi Okuyama	Gay	Masumi, timpanist, is homosexual, and an okama. He loves Shinichi Chiaki, seeing Nodome as a rival who also likes Chiaki.
	Zombie-Loan	July 3, 2007	Koyomi	Genderqueer	Koyomi is a girl with a split personality, her normal shy female personality is usually dominant and has feelings for Shito, enough so that she sacrifices her soul to save his life. Her male persona, Yomi, shows up when Michiru is close or kisses her in episodes such as "Dead Man's Tongue." Yomi later takes over Koyomi's body and says they are male. The same themes are expressed in the manga the anime is based on.	Japan
Yomi Yoimachi			Bisexual
2008	Penguin Musume	April 19, 2008	Kujira Etorofu	Genderqueer	Skilled in martial arts, raised as a boy, but later realized she is a girl and initially had a crush on her friend Penguin while growing up.	Japan
			Saki Hōjiro	Lesbian	Little sister of Maguro and enjoys Penguin’s affections for her.
			Iijuin Karei	Trans woman	One of the four knights of Marie, and is a trans woman but often misidentified as a transvestite.
			Sakura Nankyoku	Lesbian	She is the main character of the series and is often referred to as "Penguin" or "A-Girl." Growing up with anime and manga has led her to have an erratic and slightly perverted personality, and she often flirts with her female friends, including Saki. She once had a crush on her best friend, Kujira.
2008–2010	Black Butler	October 9, 2008	Grell Sutcliffe	Trans woman	Grell is a Grim Reaper, sometimes known as Grelle, part of the Retrieval Division of the Grim Reaper Dispatch. Grell initially posed as Angelina Dalles's butler and conspired with her as Jack the Ripper. In their confessional describes her as a "self-declared lady," uses she/her pronouns, and she wants gender reassignment surgery, while other manga chapters note her desire to get breasts and show her dedication to a female appearance when she debuts in the manga. In the show, Grell flirts with Sebastian Michaelis as shown in the episode "His Butler, Chance Encounter," a male demon, even trying to kiss him in the episode "His Butler, Forlorn" and tries to collect the soul of a female killer, in the episode "Wench Butler." There is much fan debate as to whether Grell is a "drag queen or a problematic portrayal of a trans woman."	Japan
2009	Akikan!	January 3, 2009	Yurika Kochikaze	Lesbian	Classmate of Kakeru and Naijimi who says she is the lover of Najimi when she isn't, but may have a crush on her, fighting others who rival her for attention to Najimi. She has a nickname, Yuriri.	Japan
2009	Shangri-La	April 6, 2009	Miiko	Trans woman	Miiko is the younger trans woman who often gets teased by Momoko. Miiko seems to tend to cry a lot and tends to be picked on by other members of the group (Tropical Fish). She sacrifices herself and Hiruko to save Sayoko and Mikuni by shielding them during the bombing of Neo Akihabara presumably using all of Hiruko's power to accomplish this.	Japan
			Momoko		Momoko is a trans woman with a flamboyant personality. Her weapon of choice is a whip that is coiled around her arm until she activates and uses it. She has a liking towards men, and often attacks them by forcing upon them kisses or other uncomfortable encounters.
2009	Maria Holic	January 4, 2009	Miki Miyamae	Bisexual	She met Mariyain elementary school, and has been in love with her since then, wanting to date her and when Kanako tells her she's a boy, she promises to enter Ame no Kisaki when she's older and to date Mariya.	Japan

References

The sexuality of Haruhi Suzumiya

in the first episode of the 2006 anime, The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Haruhi and Kyon are having a conversation about dating. Within that conversation, Kyon asks, "Alright then, so what kind of guy would you have really been into, an alien or something?" Haruhi's response is, "Yeah, anything like an alien or something else along those lines. Anyway, as long as the person isn't an ordinary human, I don't care if it's a boy or a girl." Without a doubt Haruhi reveals she is bisexual so this info should be included in the article. TreeElf (talk) 16:57, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Sorry I missed this until now, but if there are reliable sources beyond this just citing the episode, than surely add an entry for Haruhi Suzumiya Historyday01 (talk) 02:12, 28 July 2024 (UTC)