Talk:List of busiest railway stations in Great Britain (2021–22)

Underground passengers

I am right in thinking that London Underground passengers are not counted here? If so, the order doesn't fully reflect the actual usage of each station, because while there is certainly an important distinction between mainline and underground services, underground passengers contribute to the business of a station, and many people will assume this to be a combined list, and will be misled. Therefore, the article needs to be far clearer on this point, and if possible it should have a column showing London Underground and similar passengers. Luwilt (talk) 20:31, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

"Only tickets sold for National Rail services are included. As such, special tours, local light rail and heritage railway tickets are excluded". It's already there. But if light rail figures are available, they could be added as a separate column. I don't know, however, if they are.--Pretty Green (talk) 09:30, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Punct.

This article isn't in my interest arena, but just curious, don't "1990/91" and "1990–91" mean different things when referring to financial periods? (Thx.) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 11:22, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Don't know - but that's hardly a topic of this article. If the article is wrong then it could be changed, but would have to be by someone who knows that area --Pretty Green (talk) 12:13, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Wasn't suggesting the point on punct was "the topic of the article". Of course I know edits "can be changed", I simply suspected there may have been an inaccuracy introduced inadvertently by an editor's change in punct. I don't think it is inappropriate to bring attention to the possibility on Talk – Talk is for improving articles. I have no idea why you responded. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 15:03, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

I didn't say that it was inappropriate, and I didn't mean to suggest that you should be the one changing it - I meant that if it's wrong, someone could change. I apologise if what you took from my response was the suggestion that you shouldn't have posted, cos that's not what I meant. My "that's hardly a topic of this article" was a response to "This article isn't in my interest arena" - I was trying to point out that equally your question will probably not fit into the area of interest of post people who have a railway article on their watch-list and that you're unlikely to get much of a response to your question. It looks like the change was made by a copywriting editor and I think that if you're concerned about the accuracy of the changes you're better off asking him/her directly: I was just trying to suggest that you might not get much of a response here! --Pretty Green (talk) 10:26, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

"...you're unlikely to get much of a response to your question."
My understanding is that typically authors and editors who care, have it on their watchlist so inaccuracies don't creep in.

"... if you're concerned about the accuracy of the changes you're better off asking him/her directly."
That suggestion seems a bit illogical to me since if indeed the edit introduced an inaccuracy, then the editor who introduced it could easily have a misconception and would respond in a predictable way. (It's my understanding that points such as this are recommended to go to article Talk, not User Talk.)

"... if you're concerned about the accuracy of the changes"
I'm not really "concerned" – I simply pointed something out and was of course also curious to know at same time. (If followers of the article don't care, then I don't care either. When editors don't care about a point raised in article Talk, usually the point goes unattended/barren of response. But you responded, I guess, because you misunderstood my intent. Hope this clarified.) Ok, Ihardlythinkso (talk) 11:13, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Who Edits Wins?

Good to see this list being put to good use on BBC 1 tonight! Do we get any cut of the winnings? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:49, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

2013 data now available

http://orr.gov.uk/statistics/published-stats/station-usage-estimates

Updating 'least busiest stations' section

Most of this articles relies on the 2013 information from the ORR, except the section highlighting stations in Britain with fewer than 100 passengers. In 2013 we had about 9- I'll get to revising it (and hopefully remove the 'Outdated' tag) Kwahmah02 (talk) 19:41, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Update from ORR figures

The latest ORR figures are out and now make this article factually incorrect - according to that source, Stratford is now the busiest station, not Waterloo. (Ping Redrose64 for help). Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:39, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

I no longer maintain railway station infoboxes after that business in 2020. The person who decided to screw it around should take up that responsibility. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 14:30, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Done. I'm sure there's probably some mistakes intentional 'tests' to be found, likely with some of the details for the London stations that were added, but at least it's a step in the right direction. ChiZeroOne (talk) 21:51, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Can the pre-pandemic figures still be left on this page, alongside the most recent year's figures? The most recent year's figures were recorded during the middle of a pandemic, when travel was severly disrupted and restricted, so the figures are not representative of a normal year, which is what someone coming to this page would probably be expecting to find. If someone is trying to find what the busiest station in Great Britain is, the answer they're probably looking for is London Waterloo with 94 million passengers in an average year, not Stratford with 14 million, which only happens to be the busiest because the figures were skewed by a pandemic. Similar list pages such as List of busiest airports by passenger traffic have retained previous years figures, and while I don't think there's a need to keep 20 years of figures like that page, it would make this page a lot more useful if just the 2019 figures could be included, as the most recent figures which are representative of a normal year. Royboymaps (talk) 03:08, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Strongly agree on this. It's not a useful set of statistics as it is. Ambrosen (talk) 22:03, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Elizabeth line

I removed references to the Elizabeth line because it started operating on 24 May 2022 which is after the period this data relates to (1 April 2021 to 31 March 2022). MRSC (talk) 08:57, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Nicely spotted! Thank you. 10mmsocket (talk) 09:00, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

An additional thought - some of the stations in the eastern (overground) sector were active as part of TfL Rail between Liverpool Street and Shenfield - the bit that MTR operated with the new Class 345 units that later became the Elizabeth Line. These would have been counted but tagged at TfL not Elizabeth Line. 10mmsocket (talk) 09:06, 4 January 2023 (UTC)