Talk:List of fly fishing waters in North America

Genesis of List of fly fishing waters in North America

This list as well as the List of fly fishing waters in Europe was created based on a Category For Discussion debate on the Category:Fly fishing waters. The decision was ultimately to delete the category and Listify fly fishing waters. Based on the current contents of the category, two lists were created and linked to the Fly fishing article. Originally the category was created to eliminate an embedded list in the fly fishing article.

Most likely additional lists for Latin American, Australasia, Asia, and Africa will be created as the number of articles on fly fishing destinations in these regions increase.

Criteria for inclusion in these lists should be one or more of the following:

• The WP article on the water identifies the waters as a significant fly fishing destination.
• If the WP article on the water does not include significant fly fishing relevance, the list entry should be cited with suitable sources. In these cases, editors are encouraged to add well sourced fly fishing information to the water's article.
• If there is no WP article on the water, the entry should be cited with suitable sources. Editors are encouraged to create new WP articles on these waters.
• Even if a particular water is located in more than one state or province, it should be listed only once in the most logical state or province.

--Mike Cline (talk) 11:41, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Lake Winnipesaukee as notable fly fishing water in N. America

Lake Winnipesaukee ("Smile of the Great Spirit" translated from the native Abanaki Indian) is the sixth largest natural lake in the US not contingent with Canada. It has become a premier lake for fishing for land-locked salmon, small mouth bass, rainbow trout, and lake trout -- both streamer fly fishing fishing as well as with artificial lures and natural baits. This includes trolling with flies and lures with flat-line on the surface in early spring after ice-out, as well as trolling deeper in warmer weather using lead-core lines or down riggers.

I acknowledge that this may be self-serving and that I am new to Wikipedia editing and do not know how this should be appropriately submitted, given that I am author of this book. This popular book is the only definitive book on fishing in Lake Winnipesaukee, Angling in the Smile of the Great Spirit -- Six Centuries of Wisdom from the Master Anglers of Lake Winnipesaukee(Dr. Harold C. Lyon, Jr: Deep Waters Press, 2007: www.deepwaterspress.com) The book includes my 70 years of angling experience plus that of the other 14 Master Anglers who cumulatively have over 600 years of experience angling in this lake in chapters on fishing the various species in the lake plus chapters containing the tips, secrets, stories, and techniques used by each Master Angler. It's popularity is evidenced by its being named "Best Book of the Year" in 2007 by the New England Outdoor Writers Association and being called "The Bible" of northern glacial lake angling. Many other positive reviews of the book are documented.

So I am making a case for listing Lake Winnipesaukee in Wikipedia as an important sport fishing lake and listing this book as a definitive source of information on the history and techniques for fishing in this large glacial lake. I seek advice on how this should be appropriately done.

Thanks!

Halclyon (talk) 10:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Dr. Harold C. Lyon, Jr.

Harold C. Lyon, Jr. Guest Professor Medical Education Ludwig Maximilians University Writing web site: http://www.halclyon.com/ Cell Phone Germany: 0049-0170 8884738 Home phone Germany: 0049-89-189 23643 Office phone Munich: 0049-89-5160-7631 Cell Phone USA: (603) 520-1214 May-November: 140 East Bear Island,PO Box 452, Meredith, NH 03253 Latest press release: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2009/02/prweb1974374.htm Professional experience: http://www.linkedin.com/in/haroldlyon

Biographical Sketch: Dr. Harold C. Lyon is a graduate of West Point, former Ranger-paratrooper officer, U.S. Director of Education for the Gifted, project officer for the development of Sesame Street, assistant to the president of Ohio University, faculties of Georgetown, Antioch, Dartmouth Medical School, Notre Dame College, Universities of Massachusetts and Munich where he currently teaches physicians to be more effective teachers. He received the Gold Medal in the 32nd International Film & TV Festival of New York, a CINDY Award, and the Blue Ribbon in the American Film & Video Festival. He's the author of 7 books and over 150 articles. His book, Angling in the Smile of the Great Spirit, won the New England Outdoor Writers Association "Best Book of the Year Award" in 2007.

Very Incomplete

This list is very incomplete. For example, it excludes the State of Michigan which holds many top fly fishing rivers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.124.10.27 (talk) 22:38, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Usefulness of this list

Even as a fly-fisherman, I just don't see the point of this list. Practically every river or stream can be a fly fishing river--and the inclusion criteria is largely a matter of marketing. It's a really a useless list as it will be perpetually incomplete but at the same time it can be a "hey, add me too" list and the inclusion criteria will be largely moot and ineffective. You might as well just rename it "List of rivers containing water" because it makes no sense to have a list that is supposed to segregate types of rivers but title it with an activity that any river can host. If one of the contributors can't really explain this list's objective, it might just be a good candidate for AfD.--ColonelHenry (talk) 18:06, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

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