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Please update the gross of Premam as 64 Cr. [1] User talk:fahidka 5:00, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Please update the gross of Drishyam as 60 cr. [2] Josephjames.me (talk) 12:33, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Also, please add the gross of Twenty:20 as 32 cr. [3] Josephjames.me (talk) 12:42, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Support the update of Drishyam to 60 cr - the source is a valid major newspaper speaking in its own voice. Do not support the Twenty:20 as it is just the director speaking in terms that he himself qualifies "if one believes the trades". -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:23, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Hey TheRedPenOfDoom! I've made a table from whatever data was available. Please make me know of the corrections. There a few more films for which I have not been able to find a reliable source. I shall try to add them as soon as possible. Thanks! Josephjames.me (talk) 13:50, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Movie	Year	Studio(s)	Net Gross	Source
* Premam	2015	Anwar Rasheed Entertainment	₹60 crore (US$7.2 million)
Drishyam	2013	Aashirvad Cinemas	₹60 crore (US$7.2 million)
Bangalore Days	2014	Anwar Rasheed Entertainment	₹50 crore (US$6.0 million)
Twenty:20	2008	AmmA, Graand Production	₹31.4 crore (US$3.8 million)
Classmates	2006	Arya Films	₹23 crore (US$2.8 million)
Oru Vadakkan Selfie	2015	Cast N' Crew	₹21 crore (US$2.5 million)
Kerala Varma Pazhassi Raja	2009	Sree Gokulam Films	₹20 crore (US$2.4 million)
Mayamohini	2012	Color Factory	₹20 crore (US$2.4 million)
Vellimoonga	2014	Ullattil Visual Media	₹20 crore (US$2.4 million)
Christian Brothers	2011	AVA Productions, Varnachithra Big Screen	₹17.4 crore (US$2.1 million)
Bhaskar the Rascal	2015	Anto Joseph Film Company	₹17 crore (US$2.0 million)

References

for starters, you have cited [4] for two of the films in your list, but as far as I can see that source does not provide box office figures for ANY film. Did you copy and paste from the stand alone article? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:07, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

It is given in a photo in the article. [5] Josephjames.me (talk) 14:17, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

"Source: Industry"? That's a little odd but the Economic Times is a reliable source I guess. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:14, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

• All done. If there are concerns about a particular source, we can discuss. The only issue is that the article now has 11 sources for this language. Any objections to cutting it to an even ten? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:24, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

No problem at all. Josephjames.me (talk) 12:42, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Hey! Forgot to thank you... Thanks! And please revise the 'Premam' figure as 60 cr. Thanks again:) Josephjames.me (talk) 13:10, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Kerala Varma Pazhassi Raja

There's two separate numbers listed for Kerala Varma Pazhassi Raja: [6] alleging 20 crore and [7] alleging 49 crore in an off-hand comment. Rather than the note, we should look into it with more detail. It seems like the Times piece may not be reliable for this citation since that result would make it the third-highest film, something that nothing else seems to agree with. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 10:13, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

'The Times piece may not be reliable for this citation since that result would make it the third-highest film, something that nothing else seems to agree with.' That's exactly why I put the gross as 20 cr. because that would also support this article [8] which states that Drishyam beat Twenty:20 to become the highest grossing Malayalam film. But if the gross is true, the film would be a 'flop' (27 cr. budget, 20 cr. gross) rather than a 'blockbuster' [9]. It surely needs a discussion, but as a big grosser, I thought it must feature in the list. Josephjames.me (talk) 12:42, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Need sources

Can any one provide gross for films such as Narasimham, Rajamanikyam etc.? Thanks! Josephjames.me (talk) 12:45, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Bahubali should be included in Telugu movies list only

We don't need another discussion section yet again. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 18:13, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Bahubali is a Telugu movie and some portions of the movie are re-shoot to suit the Tamil audience. How can we list it in Highest Grossing Tamil movies list? If you take the case of Enthiran/Robo, I, Shivaji, etc., lot of portions of the movies are re-shoot to suit Telugu audience. Do we need to include those movies in the list of Highest grossing Telugu movies? These movies are not straight away dubbed versions(Telugu) of original movies(Tamil) but modified to suit Telugu audience. Same is the case with Bahubali. Bahubali is originally a Telugu movie and some portions are re-shoot for Tamil audience. Please remove "Bahubali" from Tamil movies list. Otherwise, if we show total gross earnings from all languages(including dubbed languages), how can we show them separately as Tamil, Telugu, Hindi or Malayalam movies? If that is the case, please include all the languages in which the movie was released originally including dubbed languages. If Bahubali is included in the list of highest grossing Tamil movies list, then why wasn't Eega movie included in Tamil list as it was also produced in Tamil along with Telugu version simultaneously? Because it is not in the top of the list? Everyone wants to take credit if we are successful. And why was Eega movie got National Award for Best Feature Film in Telugu only even though it is produced simultaneously in Tamil also and content of both the movies are same? So, it is better to include Bahubali only in the Telugu list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhuvannalla (talk • contribs) 03:28, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Update the collection of Bajrangi Bhaijaan. It has crossed 500 cr Worldwide.

Collection update of Bajrangi Bhaijaan

Update the collection of Bajrangi Bhaijaan. It has crossed 540 cr Worldwide. Here is the evidence... http://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2015/08/04/despite-weekend-slowdown-indias-bajrangi-bhaijaan-treks-to-540-crore-84-2m-worldwide kindly update collections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bibsomania (talk • contribs)

References

Bajrangi Bhaijaan

Collection update of Bajrangi Bhaijaan 2

Update the collection of Bajrangi Bhaijaan. It has crossed 540 cr Worldwide. Here is the evidence... http://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2015/08/04/despite-weekend-slowdown-indias-bajrangi-bhaijaan-treks-to-540-crore-84-2m-worldwide kindly update collections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ambeinghari (talk • contribs)

It's been done. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 18:14, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Eega

As discussed above, the film Eega was produced in both Tamil and Teleugu was is classified as bilingual here. Any objections to including it on the Tamil chart? I'd suggest we drop Thuppakki so teh chart is limited to a top ten but that's a separate concern. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 18:32, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

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Bajrangi Bhaijaan's Collections needs to be updated asap. It shows 575 Crore INR in its own wiki page. Yashmrsawant (talk) 10:04, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Not done: The article says 540 in the infobox and in Bajrangi_Bhaijaan#Box office. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 15:19, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Suggested correction

Bahuballi: 565 crore Bajrangi Bhaijaan : 495 crore ARJUN best kg (talk) 16:31, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Please provide sources for this information. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 16:34, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

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According To The Source Tamil Film Veeram Has Grossed ₹130 crore According To The Source So Please Consider Changing in the List of highest-grossing Tamil films under List of highest-grossing Indian films GIftson.J (talk) 16:03, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

 Verified - Quote from source: According to Forbes India, "Veeram" is estimated to have earned about ₹130 crore. Seems good enough to me. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 16:10, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

References

Done.-- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:14, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

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In this section, please change the gross for Kerala Varma Pazhassi Raja from ₹20 crore to ₹27 crore per this more recent source. Also, please move Kerala Varma Pazhassi Raja from 7th to 5th in the table. Thank you EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 15:17, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

@EvergreenFir: Isn't that saying that it cost 27 crore not that it may 27 crore? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:16, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

@Ricky81682: I {{trout}} myself for that... wow... I really need to read more slowly. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 04:19, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

:) Be glad protection hasn't ended yet. It'll be a madhouse. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:32, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Pazhassi Raja

As i am from kerala and a regular movie analyst the 2009 movie Pazhassi Raja made 49 crores as shown in Times Of India. it was then a record and all media where buzzing about the film collections. 100% sure that the movie grossed 49 crores not 20.. Kindly update the collections

regards................ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ambeinghari (talk • contribs) 07:29, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

@Ambeinghari: I cannot find any sources from Times of India that confirm this. The most recent one I can find (Nov. 2014) says 27 cores. Can you please link to your source? EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 15:13, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

I have asked that the gross be updated to 27 crore though. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 15:17, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

As discussed below, that's 27 crore for the cost not the revenue. Ambeinghari, can you post the link for us? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:34, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Bajrangi Bhaijaan gross

Collection update of Bajrangi Bhaijaan

Update the collection of Bajrangi Bhaijaan. It has crossed 547 cr Worldwide, that is till date. here is the source

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/bajrangi-bhaijaan-19-day-worldwide-box-office-collection-salman-starrer-fares-better-641770

regards.......Ambeinghari (talk • contribs) 11:59, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

 Verified - Quote from source: "Bajrangi Bhaijaan" 19-days gross worldwide box office income is all set to cross Rs 550 crore.. Will add to edit request below. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 17:34, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

highest grossing telugu films

include magadheera in the list of highest grossing telugu films Padukati raju (talk) 04:25, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

 Verified - Seems correct. Quote from source: ₹150 crore lifetime gross box office collection of "Magadheera". Magadheera says it is a Telugu language film. Would tie for 3rd ranking in List_of_highest-grossing_Indian_films#Highest_grossing_Telugu_films. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 17:11, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Added to edit request below. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 17:39, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

References

Removing Language column

When List of highest-grossing films link doesn't show the language. Why should this page show it? Marchoctober (talk) 10:28, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

List of highest-grossing films only include hollywood films. thats not in the case of Indian films as here we have different movies of different languages and all of them are important. so language is needed. cant remove it.

whoever put that statement please sign after you done, and your above statement is not true any film which has grossed the hell great amount anywhere in the world will show up in that list and the language would not be mentioned, that article is about highest grossing films and not highest grossing Hollywood films, and this article is about highest grossing Indian films whichever language they are from if Indian they must be listed here and there should be no distinction between them. Marchoctober (talk) 14:59, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Mostly because they're all in English? I see the benefit of specifying language when it comes to Indian films. There are a dozen or so languages spoken in Indian and cultures associated with them. The language of the film will determine the audience to a large degree.EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 17:21, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

• I'm presuming you mean the top "global grossing" category and if so, I support removing languages from that category. That still won't stop the fighting as long as we continue to have the various subtables underneath. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 01:48, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

It is better to mention that language in which the movie has grossed its highest, even though it is released in many languages. Because the movie will collect its highest gross based on the primary language it is associated with. This information is easily available with reliable sources.

@Ricky81682 Why exactly did you conclude that it wouldn't stop fighting? If you are drawing reference to List of highest-grossing films then follow the exact same format, Or else stop just misusing the reference just to support your view points. I support making it very clean. Please remove all the columns except the Movie title. Production house, grossings

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==Highest grossing Kannada films==

Movie	Year	Director	Studio(s)	Worldwide Gross	Source
Mungaru Male	2006	Yogaraj Bhat	E. Krishna	₹50 crore (US$6.0 million)
Maanikya	2014	Sudeep	N. M. Kumar,Priya Sudeep,Kolla Praveen	₹43.5 crore (US$5.2 million)
Sangolli Rayanna (film)	2012	Naganna	Anand Appugol	₹30 crore (US$3.6 million)

Rakesh bg (talk) 21:59, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

References

@Rakesh bg: Where did you get this text from? Was that an old separate article that got merged here? It'll just make it more accurate if I put that in the edit summary for copyright reasons. I don't think that Indiaglitz (for Mungaru Male and for one of the sources for Maanikya) would qualify as a reliable sources but it shouldn't just be me here so let's wait on at least one more person to comment here. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:22, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

The Hindu here confirms 50 crore for Mungaru Male and that it is the highest Kannada box office collection. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:24, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

@Ricky81682: Looking at the "What Links Here" for Mungaru Male, I don't think this table was copy-pasted from anywhere on the English wikipedia. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 15:10, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

I mean one of the old "List of highest grossing films" that were merged here. You can see the box at the top for all those. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 20:24, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

@Ricky81682: The text is from Cinema of Karnataka and the table with movie name & worldwide gross & other details was created by me after getting the information from the sources that I have put in the source column. Please change the source for Mungaru Male with The Hindu Link. Others can you please comment on the reliability of the source from Indiaglitz, if people think its not a reliable source then please go-ahead & remove that line/movie from the list & add other content, later I'll try to find a reliable source for Maanikya

@Ricky81682: Can you please add the highest grossing Kannada movie section with the above provided information, please let me know what is stopping you from adding this.

Just too much else going on here. I wanted to see if anyone else responded. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:55, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Indiaglitz

To me, Indiaglitz looks like more a WP:BLOGS and doesn't have the indicia of reliability that we ask for under our WP:RS policy. I can't find any indication of who is behind it (some television studio or a company or a newspaper or something). It's just a view. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:55, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Introduction

I just put down the Sandalwood language but we can add more I think. Looking at Cinema of Karnataka, I think we should add the following

Indian films produced in the Kannada language, known as the cinema of Karnataka, "Chandanavana" or the Sandalwood, is based in Bengaluru. From the first Kannada talkie, Sati Sulochana, in theatres in 1934, there are now more than one hundred films made a year.

Any views? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:55, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

@Ricky81682: Thanks for adding the Kannada Language Films, the above suggestion for the intro looks good, Cinema of Karnataka is more commonly know as Sandalwood. Here are some more additions to the list, I have provided the reliable sources, please add them to the list.

Movie	Year	Director	Studio(s)	Worldwide Gross	Source
Mr. and Mrs. Ramachari	2014	Santhosh Ananddram	Jayanna and Bhogendra	₹50 crore (US$6.0 million)
Ambareesha	2014	Mahesh Sukhadhare	Mahesh Sukhadhare	₹21 crore (US$2.5 million)
Bachchan	2013	Shashank	Uday K Mehta	₹20 crore (US$2.4 million)

Please add one more movie to the list after adding the above 3.

|- | Raaj the Showman | 2009 | Prem (film director) | D. Suresh Gowda & P. Srinivas Murthy | ₹25 crore (US$3.0 million) | |-

@NeilN, @Ricky81682, @EvergreenFir can one of you please add the above mentioned 4 movies to the list of highest grossing Kannada films, there is no controversy there, all reliable source provided, what is it getting delayed to add the content?

Consensus is not of any use on this article ?

@User:NeilN Why is Consensus not taken into consideration? The user Ricky81682 has started the RFC in the first place because he wants go against consensus and beat down the general opinion of the editors on the page and represent his opinion on the page. Was there a dispute resolution attempted before the RFC was begun ?
Please see here lack of consensus commonly results in retaining the version of the article as it was prior to the proposal or bold edit. Why is that not done here ?
*When actions by administrators are contested and the discussion results in no consensus either for the action or for reverting the action, the action is normally reverted. So the edits of administrator acting Ricky have to be reverted. Marchoctober (talk) 15:20, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Prior to the RFC the page was represented with Baahubali represented as single language and not dual language, and it needs to go back to that version.Marchoctober (talk) 15:25, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

An RFC is designed to solicit outside opinions on an issue. As existing talk page editors are free to participate in the RFC there's absolutely nothing improper about opening one and there's no requirement that any kind of formal dispute resolution be held beforehand. I strongly suggest you stop with the frivolous complaints. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:33, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Okay, But the page version needs to go to the one prior to RFC Marchoctober (talk) 15:43, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

No, it doesn't, as there was no stable version. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:46, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

okay.Marchoctober (talk) 15:54, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

WP:CONSENSUS means an agreement upon something. Just repeating that you have a consensus doesn't mean that there is one. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:14, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Highest grossing tamil movies of all time

Here is the exact and correct Highest grossing tamil movies of all time list.

http://www.imdb.com/list/ls050231721/ i think this one is a reliable source and so many films mentioned in the article doeskin exactly collected that much of gross collection.. kindly check and update

regards....... Ambeinghari (talk • contribs) 11:59, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

@Ambeinghari: IMDB is not considered a reliable source because users can edit it. Do you have any other sources? EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 17:22, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Citing IMDb. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:34, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Here by am providing International business times's source regarding Highest grossing tamil movies of all time. You guys can check and verify...

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/photos/all-time-highest-grossing-tamil-films-2881-slide-21710

According to this articles apart from baahubali which is a recent film, the oder is like this - 1. Enthiran 2. I 3. Linga 4. Sivaji 5. Kaththi 6. Aarambam 7. [[Thuppakki] 8. Singam 2 9. Kanchana. gross collection is also mentioned in the article.

thanks...Ambeinghari (talk • contribs) — Preceding undated comment added 12:58, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 6 August 2015

Requesting the following changes:

1. Please update the box office gross from 500 to 515 for Bahubali The Beginning in the global gross section, the Tamil section, and the Telugu section per #Bahubali The Begining above. This will not change the rank of the film. (Source: [10])
2. Please include Magadheera in the Telugu section per #highest grossing telugu films above. Gross is ₹150 crore and would tie as 3rd in the list. (Source: [11])
3. Please update Bajrangi Bhaijaan gross from 540 to 550 in the global gross section and the Hindi section per #Bajrangi Bhaijaan gross above. This will change the ranking in both sections from 3rd to 2nd. (Source: [12])

EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 17:32, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

All done. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:18, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 13:26, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

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Please add below mentioned movies in highest grossing marathi movies.

Duniyadari || 2013 || Dreaming 24/7 Productions || ₹32 crore (US$3.8 million) ||

Timepass 2 || 2015 || Essel Vision Productions || ₹28 crore (US$3.4 million) ||

Me Shivajiraje Bhosale Boltoy || 2009 || Everest Entertainment || ₹21.4 crore (US$2.6 million) ||

Kaksparsh || 2012 || Zee Talkies || ₹14 crore (US$1.7 million) ||

Mitwaa || 2015 || Meenakshi Sagar || ₹13.5 crore (US$1.6 million) ||

Dr. Prakash Baba Amte - The Real Hero || 2014 || Essel Vision Productions || ₹12 crore (US$1.4 million) ||

Natarang || 2010 || Zee Talkies || ₹12 crore (US$1.4 million) ||

Pyaar Vali Love Story || 2014 || Dreaming 24/7 Productions || ₹11.5 crore (US$1.4 million) ||

Zapatlela 2 || 2013 || Kothare and Kothare Vision and Viacom 18 Motion Pictures || ₹11 crore (US$1.3 million) ||

Balak-Palak || 2013 || Mumbai Film Company || ₹10 crore (US$1.2 million) ||

Ani 007d (talk) 12:13, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

@Ani 007d: Are you asking that this information is added to the article? EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 15:01, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Also, was the table taken from anywhere, or did you create it yourself? If you copied it form somewhere, we need to know so we can fulfill our copyright obligations. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 15:20, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

References

@EvergreenFir: I am asking to add above mentioned movies in the table.I have taken the table from this page,i just thought that this is the way to suggest an edit by properly providing source code.Ani 007d (talk) 09:57, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Either way is fine Ani 007d. We just had so many old versions especially with the smaller industries, that it's not clear what's going on all the time. Open the box at the top and you'll see everything that was merged here over months. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 10:01, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Source 1 also says that Lai Bhaari had 41 crore not 40 so that's another update. Anyone else can check? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 10:09, 6 August 2015 (UTC) @Ricky81682:Thanks.

Verifying table amounts for Ricky81682 in order they're presented with their given sources:

1. Duniyadari which was made with Rs 2.5 crore ended up raking in Rs 32 crore from Maharashtra Y
2. An excited Priya took to the social networking site and wrote, "150 shows currently~28cr in 4 weeks & counting~top 3rd grosser in history of Marathi Cinema! Thank u 4 all ur love," (sic). Not sure because it's from a tweet...
3. surpassed the Box Office collections of Mahesh Manjrekar's 2009 release 'Mi Shivajiraje Bhosale Boltoy' which were Rs 21.4 Crore. Y
4. Two years ago, Mahesh Manjrekar made Kaksparsh with Rs 1.4 crore and earned Rs 14 crore in returns. Y
5. Moreover, the GSEAMS promoted Mitwa and Pyar Vali Love Story also did well as they generated revenues of Rs 13.5 crore and Rs 11.5 crore respectively. Y
6. Rs 12 crore - Total collection of 'Dr Prakash Amte'; budget: Rs 2.5 crore Y
7. The film garnered Rs. 12 crore at the box office Y
8. Moreover, the GSEAMS promoted Mitwa and Pyar Vali Love Story also did well as they generated revenues of Rs 13.5 crore and Rs 11.5 crore respectively. Y
9. Mahesh Kothare's Zapatlela 2, the first ever 3D Marathi film too managed the Box Office Collection of over Rs 10-11 crores. Not sure because it gives a range of 10 to 11...
10. Balak Palak managed about Rs 10 crore business at Box Office in the beginning of the year Y but again it's "about" 10.

EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 17:52, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

I added them all. I agree that the Timepass 2 reference isn't solid (a tweet is a WP:PRIMARY source but from the lead actress so it questionable) and Balak Palak says 10-11 but it's at least ten to me. I think we have 12 films listed now. Any views as to cutting the bottom two? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:05, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Other lists are over 10 entries. Twelve seems fine to me. But that's just my subjective opinion. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 13:32, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Tamil Films misrepresenting information

When it is known that all the Tamil films in the list are released in more than just Tamil, absolutely all of them in the list why is this user indulging in removing this information ? See Diff

Every Single film is released in multiple languages more than just Tamil language, please see below along with sources but they are not represented fairly:

• Enthiran languages = Telugu, Tamil, Hindi

• I Film languages = Telugu Tamil Hindi

• Viswaroopam languages= Telugu Tamil and Hindi

• Dasavatharam languages = Telugu Tamil and Hindi

• Linga languages = Telugu Tamil and Hindi

• sivaji languages = TeluguTamil and hindi

• Kaththi languages = Telugu Tamil and Hindi

• Thupakki languages = Telugu and Tamil

Are you saying that removing "All versions" is a misrepresentation? I presumed that the totals listed are in all languages. Are you saying that the only numbers for Baahubali should be its gross in the Telugu and Tamil languages (so it was shot in a bilingual fashion), separately? Then what is the top category for exactly, gross per film per language? No one reports that at all. The film PK just had a run in China so how do you propose we even figure out what PK should be in Mandarin (or how to strip out the Mandarin dubbed sales? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:36, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

• Starting with Enthiran, your source says that it was released in Tamil and then dubbed into English and Telugu upon release. I don't think we should be including dubbed languages as there's going to dozens if not more for some films. PK was just released in China dubbed in Mandarin and I don't think we need to start listing all the dubbed languages to a film. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:58, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

• Okay now what I am saying is that the user's edit which I provided diff above should be undone, the films should be represented as All versions under the worldwide grossing column. And when I reported the same you have not responded positively about it, instead you just ignored my request, all films in tamil language section must be represented as All version but they are represented as Tamil only version, I am Not talking about Language column. Marchoctober (talk) 08:05, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

@User:NeilN Marchoctober (talk) 08:09, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Why? Why does "All versions" need to be put in every film? It doesn't accomplish anything and it should be obvious. Tamil only what? Tamil only gross? Is the listing under the Telugu films the Telugu only gross or is just the Tamil grosses that need to be distinguish for some reason for you? Again, what about PK and the Mandarin gross? Does PK also need to have "All versions" or again just the Tamil films? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:52, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Your argument seems very silly every film which has been made in multiple languages needs that information even PK should have that information, just because I pointed out Tamil films it does not mean others should be conveniently avoided! None of the Telugu Films are made or dubbed in other languages, you have very limited knowledge about Indian movies, seems like I request you to look for each of telugu film except Baahubali and you will realise that none of the films in telugu were made in other languagesMarchoctober (talk) 09:02, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Seriously, what do you want here? You're the one complaining about Enthiran not including the dubbed languages. I'm not wasting time looking over the rest of your sources until you tell me what reasoning your doing (which seems to just be "anything that makes Tamils look bad" to me). I still can't figure out whether you're objecting or supporting the removal of the Tamil films being listed with "All versions". -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:14, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Alright now I understand that you do not understand me, let me try to explain it even more, I thought that diff above makes things clearly visible and understandable that the edit must be undone. Anyways All films in Tamil language section must include the "All versions" information in the Worldwide grossing column and moreover PK and other films also should include that information. Also include Dasaavataram to be multiple languages and not Tamil alone atleast now and not just Baahubali. Marchoctober (talk) 09:22, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Why? The header "Languages" should be "Languages shot in" and then it wouldn't be an issue, wouldn't it? Do you really think people see the gross for Titanic and get confused as to whether its the original or a French dubs or a Mandarin version (or actually care)? As to the languages, first let's discuss what your basis is. Are you arguing it based on the dubbed versions being released? Otherwise I don't care to argue whether or not each film has multiple languages if I don't know what your logic is (in particular, why everything is suddenly multiple languages but Baahubali is not). -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:29, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

{{trout}} I do not know how else to explain in spite of making it as simple as saying the diff I provided needs to be undone and provided the sources supporting why. This is not about the language column it released in, under the language section you still put Tamil. Please see the Diff Marchoctober (talk) 10:16, 6 August 2015 (UTC) (redacted the trouting. Not helpful. Abecedare (talk) 18:58, 7 August 2015 (UTC))

@User:NeilN Can you please make the change reverting the edit described in the diff in the start of the section? Marchoctober (talk) 15:50, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

NeilN is currently on vacation, so replying in his stead.: Per policy, pages that are protected because of content disputes should not be edited except to make changes which are uncontroversial or for which there is clear consensus and this does not fall under those exceptions. Abecedare (talk) 18:58, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

US conversion of INR

I don't think we should be using INR convert and including the US valuations. Under MOS:CURRENCY, we should be using the currency of the subject currency. We are appropriately using the Indian rupees in terms of crores but there's no reason we should be including any conversion (in particular no reason to convert to the US dollar as MOS:CURRENCY puts the dollar, euros and pounds sterling as equal). Any other opinions? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:10, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

We Americans are quite ignorant of other country's money... and part of me wants maybe just a note in the refs about the conversion rate. Click crores doesn't give a ton of info. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 04:18, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

The conversion rate varies quite a bit from as low as 40 in 2007 until the current mid-60s. It's not in line with the MOS. List of highest-grossing films in Hong Kong doesn't. List of highest-grossing films in Nigeria doesn't. List of highest-grossing Pakistani films doesn't. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:41, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

I guess the issue for me personally is the use of crore more than anything. I understand STRONGNAT would apply here, but for readers no familiar with Indian numbering systems it's quite confusing. If we were to convert to decimal numbering and just talk about things in millions of INR and exclude the conversion template, I think that would be a good compromise of sorts. It would make it easier for readers to convert the grosses themselves. But again, I admit I'm viewing this through an American lens. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 17:08, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Well, to be honest, I'm not particularly concerned about making sure American readers aren't lost by how a listing of Indian films is written. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:37, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough I guess. I wouldn't be opposed to removing the convert templates. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 19:12, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Highest grossing tamil movies of all time 2

Here by am providing International business times's source regarding Highest grossing tamil movies of all time. You guys can check and verify...

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/photos/all-time-highest-grossing-tamil-films-2881-slide-21710

According to this articles apart from baahubali which is a recent film, the oder is like this - 1. Enthiran 2. I 3. Linga 4. Sivaji 5. Kaththi 6. Aarambam 7. [[Thuppakki] 8. Singam 2 9. Kanchana. gross collection is also mentioned in the article.

thanks...Ambeinghari (talk • contribs) — — Preceding undated comment added 14:20, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Those box office gross numbers match what we have on the article currently. However there are other sources that have Tamil films with large box office grosses that aren't listed in that source. We cannot use that source to say those 10 films are the only high grossing Tamil films, but we can use it to support the amount they did gross. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 19:11, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Well i think Singam 2 and Kanchana 2 should be added to those list as it will make all existing 100 crores movies to that list. source is given below

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/photos/all-time-highest-grossing-tamil-films-2881-slide-21710

thanks....Ambeinghari (talk • contribs) — Preceding undated comment added 14:05, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

If the administrators want more sources, here it is the list of Highest grossing Tamil Films 1. Top Grossing Tamil Films of All Time, IndiaMoviesStats 2. Top 10 World Wide Box-Office All-Time, TamilBoxOffice and here is the list of Top Grossing Telugu Films of All Time from Tamil based website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhuvannalla (talk • contribs) 19:05, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

None of those would qualify as a reliable source. They all seem like blogs to me. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:26, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Bahubali The Begining

The Total Gross Of Bahubali The Begining Has Crossed Around ₹515 crores.So Please Kindly modify the content — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgmimmanuel (talk • contribs) 12:03, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

 Verified - From source, emphasis added: All the three versions of SS Rajamouli's "Baahubali the Beginning" have collected about Rs 13 crore gross at the worldwide box office on its fourth Monday and Tuesday. With this, the SS Rajamouli-directorial has grossed Rs 515 crore globally in 26 days. Added to edit request below. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 17:39, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

References

Update Baahubali world wide gross to 525 crores please IBTimes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 20.132.68.149 (talk) 15:58, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Update Baahubali gross earnings. It went past Dhoom3 records. Baahubali' Zooms Past 'Dhoom', Now India's All Time #3, Forbes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.221.130.72 (talk) 07:47, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

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Baahubali grossed over 5.5 billion rupees and is the third highest grossing Indian film.

source: http://www.ibtimes.co.in/baahubali-bahubali-5th-weekend-box-office-collection-prabhas-film-turns-3rd-all-time-highest-642326 Pkarthik0123 (talk) 10:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Not done: The page's protection level and/or your user rights have changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 14:01, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

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Baahubali collections touched 545 Crore rupees on 10th August

Source : http://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2015/08/10/baahubali-zooms-past-dhoom-now-indias-all-time-3/

Ven.london19 (talk) 11:31, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

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Eega

As I said before, the film Eega was produced in both Tamil and Teleugu was is classified as bilingual here. I said this before and regardless of the number of people whining and complaining about it, not one of them said a word here agreeing to the point. Now, I expect those who complain about Eega not being listed in the Tamil section to support including it in the Tamil section or else I'm going to be archiving any arguments that go into that from those who don't show up and then taking them to ANI to demand they be blocked for disruptive editing. You are either here to honestly and objectively create an encyclopedia or not. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:12, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Why do you need users opinion when you, yourself, are manipulating all the information in the wrong way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.221.130.72 (talk) 07:53, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

What do you even mean by 'manipulating'? —Vensatry _(ping) 18:03, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Who knows? I did the edit anyways since it's no longer an admin violating protection to fix it. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:21, 11 August 2015 (UTC)