Talk:List of highest-grossing live-action/animated films

RFC on what the criteria for being on this list is

The page says "CGI characters are only included if they are portrayed as visually distinct from their live-action surroundings—otherwise, the majority of live-action movies which use CGI visual effects would be included." However, that's a very unclear statement on what that means. I fail to see how Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows meets that requirement, but Avatar (2009 film) and films in the MCU don't. I do think there is a distinct difference between a hybrid animation/live-action film and a live action film that uses CGI for visual effects, but I cannot think of an objective way to determine the difference. I'm hoping that someone can think of a clearer definition. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 16:18, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Per WP:RFCBEFORE, where have you discussed this already? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:37, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Since nobody has commented at all on this talk page in well over 2 years, I thought that it would be okay if I used an RFC to get people to actually see the comment. If I was wrong, you can make this just a regular discussion, though I feel that it turning into a RFC is inevitable because I doubt enough people will participate without one. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 21:24, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

RfC is not a means for initiating discussion but an instrument of last resort, used when all other reasonable methods have been exhausted and the problem is still not resolved. There are four WikiProject banners at the top of this page; so if you want people to "actually see the comment", you should post a notice to one or more of their talk pages. Templates such as {{fyi}} and {{subst:WikiProject please see}} are available for this. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Also, another normal way to get people who care to comment if they don't otherwise is to decide on your own a clear and sensible definition and put it in the page. WP:BOLD. And if no one comments then, there may be no point in soliciting comments, and it would be a better use of RfC participants' time not to do so. Bryan Henderson (giraffedata) (talk) 18:22, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Not everyone is comfortable with triggering Cunningham's law... WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:02, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

I haven't seen any of the films you mention as examples, but are you sure that the included ones are meant to be included? Maybe the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles film needs to be removed.

As for an objective standard, the easiest one is probably that it's classified as a live action film by some reasonably comprehensive source. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:05, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

I guess the difference is the fact that in the TMNT films, the main characters are 100% animated, much like Stuart Little, Sonic the Hedgehog, and many of the others in the list. Characters in the MCU are portrayed by actors, with CGI effects added - but they are not animated characters; while Avatar was live-action motion capture, with animated effects added in post-production. SnookerLoopyOneFourSeven (talk) 00:41, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Should the Spongebob Movies be added?

According to the Wikipedia entry for The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water:

"Like the first film, the final act places the animated characters in a live-action world. However, unlike the first film, the animated characters become animated in CGI in the live-action world."

Having had a read of their Wiki entries, all three of the films feature parts that combine animation with live-action, but I haven't seen them, so I don't know to what extent. SnookerLoopyOneFourSeven (talk) 00:44, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

No we discussed in the past and the outcome was no for all the SpongeBob filmsFanoflionking3 (talk) 09:55, 9 July 2024 (UTC)