Talk:List of places named after people
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Articles for Deletion debate
editThis article survived an Articles for Deletion debate. The discussion can be found here. -Docg 01:04, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
China
editSurely China being named after a dynasty doesn't count? Is this a page about places named for individuals or places named for groups of people or both? User:Francs2000
- This probably stems in the misconception that Chinese dynasties are named after its ruling clan's family names. AFAIK, this never happens (unlike Korean dynasties). The Chin Dynasty's imperial family name is Yin. The last dynasty, Ching Dynasty's imperial family name, for example, is Aisin-gioro. --Menchi 19:08, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- How about Chinese cities? Shrumster 11:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Ukraine and the Communist names
editArtemiwśk was voted on Sept. 23, 2015 by city council to restore its historical (prior to 1924) name, Bachmut (Бахмут)
Other names that are subject to change, according to the Decommunization Law of 2015 (to be implemented by Rada in 2016):
- Dniprodzerzhynśk - to restore historical (1750-1936) name Kamjanśke (Кам'янське)
- Dnipropetrovśk - to be renamed as Dnipro (Дніпро), after the river
- Illyichivśk - to be renamed as Čornomorśk (Чорноморськ), after the Black Sea (Čorne more). Supported by local referendum on Nov. 12, 2015. To avoid confusion, the town of Čornomorśke, Crimea has its own historical (prior to 1944) Crimean Tatar name Aqmeçit (Ак Мечеть)
- Kirovohrad - to be renamed as Inhuľśk (Інгульськ), after the river Inhul
Not included in the list (all subject to renaming as well):
- Artemiwka, after Fyodor Sergeyev. Alternative name Skorochodowe (Скороходове)
- Chapayeve, after Vasily Chapayev. Historical (1899-1925) name Ziglewriwka (Ціґлеврівка)
- Ciurupynśk, after Oleksandr Ciurupa. Historical (1084-1928) name Olešky (Олешки)
- Dimitrove, after Georgi Dimitrov.
- Dzierżyńśk, after Feliks Dzierżyński. On Oct. 16, 2015 town council voted for the new name Torećk (Торецьк), after the river Toreć
- Frunziwka, after Mikhail Frunze. Historical (prior to 1927) name Zachariwka (Захарівка)
- Kalininśke, after Mikhail Kalinin. Historical (1807-1927) name Velyka Sejdemenucha (Велика Сейдеменуха)
- Kirove, after Sergey Kirov. Formerly known as Piwničný Rudnyk (Північний Рудник). The town council has voted to restore the name as Piwnične (Північне)
- Kirovśk, after Sergey Kirov. Historical (prior to 1940) name Popiwka (Попівка). The town council has voted for the new name Myrne (Мирне)
- Kirovśke, after Sergey Kirov. Historical (prior to 1938) name Obuchiwka (Обухівка)
- Kotovśk, after Grigory Kotovsky. Historical (1779-1935) Moldovan name Bârzula (Бирзула).
- Kuybysheve, after Valerian Kuybyshev. Formerly known as Kamjanka (from 1782, as the local river, Кам'янка), Belmanka (Бельманка), Carekosťantyniwka (1845-1925, Царекостянтинівка)
- Kuznetsovśk, after Nikanor Kuznetsov. Historical (1776-1973) name Varaš (Вараш)
- Orjonikidze, after Grigol Sergo Orjonikidze
- Ščors, after Mykola Ščors. Historical (prior to 1935) name Snowśk (Сновськ), after the river Snow.
- Ščorśk, after Mykola Ščors. Historical (prior to 1939) name Božedariwka (Божедарівка), approved by town council
- Ulyanivka, after Vladimir Lenin. Historical (prior to 1924) names are Hruškiwśký vysilok (Грушківський висілок), Blahoviščenśke (Благовіщенське)
- Volodarśk-Volynśký, after Moisei Goldstein. Historical names are Olexandropoľ (1545-1607, after Kniaź Olexandr Pronśký), Chorošky (until 1912, Хорошки).
and in the disputed Crimea:
- Kirovśke, after Sergey Kirov. Historical (prior to 1945) Crimean Tatar name İslâm Terek (Іслям Тєрєк)
- Kuybysheve, after Valerian Kuybyshev. Historical (prior to 1945) Crimean Tatar name Albat
- Lenine, after Vladimir Lenin. Historical (prior to 1957) name Yedi Quyu (Сім Колодязів)
- Orjonikidze, after Grigol Sergo Orjonikidze. Historical Crimean Tatar name Kaygador (Кайґадор)
Water bodies
editDo water bodies (seas, rivers, lakes, water falls) come under political entities ? Jay 11:38, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Maybe this article should be renamed to List of places named after people. --Menchi 19:08, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Though I wouldn't be entirely sure an ocean counts as a place, either. I'd put it into a separate article, personally. -- Graham :) 22:23, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Also what about cities, towns, villages, districts ? Water bodies, forests, deserts, mountains, valleys and other physical geographical entities wouldn't fit into a political entity, but would certainly be counted as a place. So rather than renaming, this page can be branched out from List of places named after people. Jay 15:17, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Though, having researched it a bit more, I'd like there to be a general List of place name origins (if it doesn't exist already). I just find the subject fascinating. -- Graham :) 00:31, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Already exists Placename etymology, List of country name etymologies. If you're also an etymology-freak maybe you can review some of the etymology-related lists I've created. Jay 07:51, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Israel and Jacob
editCan someone please tell me the link between Israel and Jacob? It's not immediately apparent. -- Graham :) | Talk 02:21, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- They are simply the same Biblical person. Multiple names per person, as usual. Or are you asking how one name can turn into another? No idea. I think they are just different names for a person. --Menchi 02:49, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
List of places named ...
editWe have "List of places named after Tito, Stalin and Lenin", but "List of places named for DeWitt Clinton etc.". Is there a difference? If not, which is the prefered name for those articles in English? --Romanm 08:50, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- hmm.. good point .. I think it should be "after". "for" is wrong grammar I guess. Jay 12:00, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Towns and cities
editA basic problem with the towns and cities section: there are hundreds, if not thousands of towns and cities across Europe that are named after people. Are they all going to go into the same article? -- Graham ☺ | Talk 20:37, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Good question, G.! And the title of the article being "List of places named after people", the list could run into millions. Wikipedians should be careful how they name their lists... -- Picapica 18:14, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Getting into the "thousands" debate, I noticed the list for France is pretty short considering the amount of cities in France named for this or that saint. (E.g. Saint Denis, France isn't even on the list, and there are many other places with Saint Denis in the name (Saint Denis (disambiguation), to say nothing about Saint Pierre!). I certainly don't suggest we merge all those place names into this list but maybe some of the major ones (such as Saint Denis, France) and perhaps mention the fact that there are many other places in france named after saints or with the name of a saint in it. (Like, for example, in Brittany there is a town called Saint-Jean-du-Doigt (which literaly translates to Saint John of the Finger). Legend has it (as told to me by a friend of mine who was born and raised near there) someone, many years ago, found a finger and the locals decided it was that of John_the_Baptist and started to pray to/worship it. Now that's a way to get a name!) -- Imlepid 06:45, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Airports
editIt seems that almost every airport is named after someone, so this section is unnecessarily long. I propose deletion. Oreo Priest 18:32, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
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Splitting the article
editThis article is too long. It has over 5000 links and is around 300k in size, yet is still incomplete for many countries. I see two way to split this:
- per-continent; ie. List of places named after people in South America
- per-country; ie. List of places named after people in Paraguay. Of course many countries will not justify a split.
Any preferences? We already have per-country splits for the US and Germany, and I'm likely to do a few more (Mexico first) in the coming days unless there's some other suggestion that has support. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:38, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- This is so wiki a list :)
There's also a third option: keeping everything here, and just splitting out any individual section if it gets too big, as has been done for the US.– Uanfala (talk) 18:59, 28 December 2020 (UTC)- I thought that was implied as part of number 2; many countries (Oman, Slovenia) wouldn't justify stand-alone pages and would remain here. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:03, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, but of course! Where was I looking. – Uanfala (talk) 19:05, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- I thought that was implied as part of number 2; many countries (Oman, Slovenia) wouldn't justify stand-alone pages and would remain here. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:03, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Seems like there's consensus to split off overlong sections, so I'll do some of those. This article is insanely long. HappyWith (talk) 20:57, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
Seychelles
editIs there a good reason why this country has a mention for the origin of the country name, and not for the capital being named after Queen Victoria? Sarandone2 (talk) 18:22, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
After splitting
editHow much content should we leave in sections that are split off? I can see the United States section and Germany section only include major cities - should we do the same thing with any other sections that get split? How do we determine a major city? HappyWith (talk) 21:11, 27 December 2023 (UTC)