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editThere's nothing wrong with it except it is so incomplete it is meaningless. There were so many riots in London, the phrase "King Mob" was invented. The Chinese had so many (really huge) riots, they invented a special weapon to deal with them. The listing of the Japanese "rice riots" gives the impression they only happened occasionally - nuts they happened regularly for over a thousand (more?) years. The "impressment riots" (depends on your definition of riot) of the British Navy Press Gangs is just the easiest to document of similar riots from the entire world including some in Africa that didn't even have a central govenment.
The least we can do is be honest enough to change the name to something like "A list of riots researched in english in one short afternoon". 'cause that's about what it is.67.166.148.125 21:35, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
This list includes only two of the hundreds (more?) of "town versus gown" riots of over 400 years of European history. It does not seem to include any of the student riots of Imperial China that happened regularly every year after the "qualification tests" (title?) for imperial placement.67.161.177.2 20:39, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- I disagree. Most contries have specific definitions of riots and also keep records of these events that are to be distinguished from unlawfull protests. As a historico-political event of significant magnitude, it is relevent to keep a record of those in an encyclopedic matter as well as the historical documentation that describes them. Your argument proposes we switch the name of the list from list of riots to list of known riots. As the page will grow, we will eventually separate the list in different pages according to historical periods and/or geographical regions
Other Riots
editAdded 2001 Cincinnati Riots and the Whig riot of 1840's. I have no details on the Whig riot except it's mentioned in the article concerning the Second Bank of the United States article. I'm not even sure if it was referred to as the "Whig riot" so if anyone can add depth to the article, or give it a more appropirate name, that'd be appreciated
--Duemellon 17:24, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Added the Boston Massacre to the list of riots
--Henrybaker 03:54, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
Was there a 1979 riot at a "Who" concert in Cincinnati? -- Jokes Free4Me 17:51, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
"1961 - Berlin Wall Riots" ??? quotation plz. Imho the only riot with the Berlin Wall involved was the "Mauerfall" on 09.11.1989 83.176.132.154 03:34, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Not true. Berlin citizens did clash with the Soviet-created Vopos as the wall was being built around West Berlin. This is a known fact. -------User:DanTD (talk) 18:35, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
Problems
editOkay, I think we need a universal definition of "riot." I was tempted to remove several items on this list - Seattle, Genoa, etc. - because my idea of a riot is people indiscriminately destroying property, looting, for its own sake. The only thing close to a "riot" in Seattle was the black blocs smashing windows, but it was quite planned out with very specific targets: Starbucks, McDonalds, etc. for political reasons. People robbing a jewelry store and flipping cars over for the hell of it is an entirely different story. I somehow doubt anyone's going to read this, though, haha --Tothebarricades.tk 00:36, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- The definition of a "riot" seems to differ country to country however I belive this list includes all riots, defined as a large amount of people committing violent acts (vandalism, assault, etc.), regardless of motivating factors. There's certainly a huge distinction between rioting and unlawful assembly which would probably be a good idea to clarify. 209.213.71.78 22:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
We really do need some clarification. For example the 1968 Democratic National Convention "riots" were mainly a police riot against unruly, but non-violent demonstrators; the Romanian Revolution of 1989 was quite a few things (it may have been two or more rival coup attempts mixed with street protests and military or Securitate violence), but it doesn't particularly seem to have been a riot, certainly less so than the Storming of the Bastille, which is not on the list. Etc. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:50, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
Gothenburg riots
editThere was som riots in Gothenburg in Sweden a couple of years ago (i do not know exactly when).
- Are you refering to the 2001 Gothenburg Riot ? I believe that was a demonstration against the EU Gothenburg Convention if I'm not mistaken. 209.213.71.78 22:28, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
Yet more riots
edithttp://www.adena.com/adena/usa/rv/rv005.htm
seems to list a bunch of American riots not on the list. I am not in a position to research these. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.147.11.214 (talk • contribs)
Need to list more international
editThat raises a good point. We seem to be missing a lot of recent riot occurences. For example, a casual wikipedia observer would get the impression that within this decade there have been as many unique riots in Sydney as their have been riots in North America. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.61.93 (talk • contribs)
Ireland
editMissing lots of riots in Northern Ireland.
Battle of the Bogside etc...
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.232.34.199 (talk • contribs)
I've included the Battle OF the Bogside.{{ Dermo69|Dermo 69 }}
Roman Election Riots
editThe list as I found it included "Roman Election Riots of 121 BC" and "Roman Election Riots of 113 BC". In an admittedly cursory internet search, I find no corroboration of any such riots. I do, however, find the following incidents related to Roman elections of that period:
In 132 BC, a group of Roman senators led by Scipio Nasica attacked and killed Tiberius Gracchus and followers at an election rally. The Wikipedia identifies Scipio Nasica as Publius Cornelius Scipio Nasica Serapio.
In 122 BC, a military force led by Lucius Opimius attacked protesters led by Gaius Gracchus. Many protesters were killed and Gracchus committed suicide to avoid apprehension.
I can only surmise that these incidents may have been the intended subject of the original entries. In the accounts I have found, these incidents are portrayed as politically motivated massacres, not as the quellings of riots, so I will construe them as such.
Pending further investigation, I am removing the "Roman Election Riots of 121 BC" and "Roman Election Riots of 113 BC", and adding the above incidents to the List of massacres.
We got a VERY serious problem: ex. The Peoples Republic of China puts down riots (as defined by their law) approximately 100 times a day. This list is going to get a LOT longer (if the Chinese permit someone access to their state security records).24.10.102.199 01:05, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
the list below is removed from Race riot article. It must be either incorporated here. Possibly a new article, List of riots by country, may be created (the List of riots is a common chronological one). `'Míkka 19:12, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Australia
edit- Burrangong (1860-1861) - Lambing Flat riots
- Broome (1905,1914,1920) - Broome riots
- Redfern (2004) - Redfern riots
- Palm Island (2004) - Palm Island death in custody riot
- Sydney (2005) - 2005 Cronulla riots
Belgium
edit- Brussels (2006) - 2006 Brussels riots
Canada
edit- Toronto (1933) - Christie Pits Race Riot
Estonia
edit- Tallinn (2007) - Bronze Soldier of Tallinn riots
France
edit- Nationwide (2005) - 2005 French Civil Unrest
Indonesia
edit- Jakarta, Surakarta (1998) - Jakarta Riots of May 1998
Malaysia
edit- Kuala Lumpur (1969) - May 13th Incident
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Rhodesia
edit- Kananga (1925) - Kananga Riot of 1925
South Africa
editThe article on Xenophobia in South Africa lists a number of xenophobic motivated riots to occure in the country since 1994. I have added a few of the most notable ones to the list already but there are many more that still need to be added.--Discott (talk) 18:22, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
Singapore
edit- Singapore (1950) - Maria Hertogh riots
- Singapore (1964) - 1964 Race Riots
- Singapore (1969) - 1969 Race Riots of Singapore
United Kingdom
edit- Cardiff (1919) - Cardiff riots 1919
- London (1958) - Notting Hill
- Bristol (1980) - St Pauls riot
- London (April 1981) - Brixton riot (1981)
- Liverpool (July 1981) - Toxteth Race Riot
- Birmingham (July 1981, 1985) - Handsworth Riots
- Leeds (1981) - Chapeltown riot (1981)
- Manchester (1981) - Moss Side
- London (1985) - Peckham riot
- London (September 1985) - Brixton riot (1985)
- London (October 1985) - Broadwater Farm riot
- Leeds (1987) - Chapeltown riot (1987)
- Dewsbury (1989) - Dewsbury riot
- London (1995) - Brixton riot (1995)
- Oldham (May 2001) - Oldham Riots
- Burnley (June 2001) - Burnley Riots
- Bradford (July 2001) - Bradford Riot
- Leeds (2001) - Harehills riot
- Birmingham (2005) - 2005 Birmingham Riot
- Dewsbury (2006)- Dewsbury/Ravensthorpe, Tension Between Asian youths & Iraqis
See also Rivers of Blood
United States
editSo when the Irish were fighting each other in the streets, it was racial?Aaaronsmith (talk) 03:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Nativist Period 1700's-1860
edit- 1829: Cincinnati, Ohio Riots begun by Whites to terrorize the Black community resulted in thousands of Blacks leaving for Canada.
- 1829: Charlestown Anti-Catholic Riots
- 1834: Massachusetts Convent Burning
- 1835: Five Points Riot
- 1836: Cincinnati, Ohio A pro-slavery riot took place
- 1841: Cincinnati, Ohio White Irish-descendant and Irish immigrant dock workers rioted against Black dock workers. When the Black dock workers banded together to defend their community from the approaching Whites, the White rioters retreated and then commandeered a 6-pound cannon and shot it through the streets of Cincinnati.
- 1844: Philadelphia Anti-Catholic Riots (May 6-8/July 5-8)
- 1849: Astor Place Riot
- 1851: Hoboken Anti-German Riot
- 1855: Louisville Anti-German Riots
Civil War Period 1861-1865
edit- 1863: New York City Draft Riot
Reconstruction Period: 1865 - 1877
edit- 1866: New Orleans, Louisiana
- 1866: Memphis, Tennessee
- 1868: Pulaski, Tennessee
- 1868: Opelousas, Louisiana
- 1868: Camilla, Georgia
- 1870: Meridian, Mississippi
- 1870: Eutaw, Alabama
- 1870: Laurens, South Carolina
- 1870: New York City Orange Riot
- 1871: Second New York City Orange Riot
- 1871: Los Angeles Anti-Chinese Riot
- 1891: New Orleans Anti-Italian Riot
- 1873: Colfax, Louisiana
- 1874: Vicksburg, Mississippi
- 1874: New Orleans, Louisiana
- 1874: Coushatta, Louisiana
- 1875: Yazoo City, Mississippi
- 1875: Clinton, Mississippi
- 1876: Hamburg, South Carolina
- 1876: Ellenton, South Carolina
Jim Crow Period: 1890 - 1914
edit- 1898: Wilmington Race Riot
- 1898: Lake City, North Carolina
- 1898: Greenwood County, South Carolina
- 1900: New Orleans, Louisiana : Robert Charles Riots
- 1900: New York City, New York
- 1906: Atlanta, Georgia
- 1906: Brownsville, Texas
- 1908: Springfield, Illinois
- 1910: Nationwide riots following the heavyweight championship fight between Jack Johnson and Jim Jeffries in Reno, Nevada on July 4
War and Inter-War Period: 1914 - 1945
edit- 1917: East St. Louis -1917 East St. Louis Riot
- 1917: Chester, Pennsylvania
- 1917: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
- 1917: Houston Riot (1917)
- Red Summer of 1919
- 1919: Washington, D.C.
- 1919: Chicago, Illinois
- 1919: Omaha, Nebraska
- 1919: Charleston, South Carolina
- 1919: Longview, Texas
- 1919: Knoxville, Tenn - 1919 Knoxville Riot
- 1919: Elaine, Arkansas
- 1920: Tulsa, OK - Lynching of Roy Belton
- 1921: Tulsa OK - Tulsa Race Riot of 1921
- 1923: Rosewood, Florida
- 1935: Harlem Race Riot
- 1943: Detroit Race Riot
- 1943: Beaumont Race Riot of 1943
- 1943: Harlem Race Riot
- 1943: Zoot Suit Riots, Los Angeles, California
Postwar era: 1946 - 1954
edit- 1946: Columbia, TN Riot
Civil Rights and Black Power Movement's Period: 1955 - 1977
edit- 1958: Battle of Hayes Pond
- 1964: Philadelphia, PA
- 1964: Harlem, NY
- 1965: Watts
- 1966: Hough Riots, Cleveland, Ohio
- 1966: North Omaha, Nebraska
- 1967: Detroit
- 1967: Milwaukee
- 1967: Newark
- 1968: Nationwide riots following the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr.
- 1969: York, Pennsylvania race riots
- 1970: Jackson State killings
- 1971: Camden, N.J. (1971) - Camden Riots
- 1972-1977: Escambia High riots in Pensacola, Florida
Modern
edit- 1980: Miami riot
- 1980: Chattanooga riot
- 1992: Los Angeles riots: In a reaction to the acquittal of all LA police officers involved in the videotaped beating of Rodney King; riots broke out mainly involving Black youth in the Black neighborhood.
- 1992: crown heights riot, Brooklyn, New York
- 2001: Cincinnati riots: In a reaction to the acquittal of Steven Roach after the fatal shooting of an unarmed young Black male, Timothy Thomas, during a foot pursuit, riots broke out over the span of a few days.
- I can think of a few others;
- 1982: Anti-Portuguese Riot in Fall River, Massachusetts
- 1986 or 1987: Latino riots in Perth Amboy, New Jersey
- 1999 Uprising at an unscrupulous mental institution/dumping ground for teenagers in Largo, Florida —Preceding unsigned comment added by DanTD (talk • contribs) 13:36, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
- Oops! I thought I signed this. Sorry. ---- DanTD 14:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
This page is a poor joke
editJust a casual glance shows before 1881 we do not have one single riot that isn't (un PC comment here) whites. Bluntly I don't think so.
That's just what I spotted with a quick glance. I won't waste my time trying to fix a PC joke.67.161.166.20 01:06, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Regarding Northern Ireland
editI have noticed that this has been mentioned before, but there are so many riots missing that accured in Northern Ireland. For example Drumcree is missing and many more.
(Paddy 00:08, 6 March 2008 (UTC))
Phil5329
editYou misunderstood. The note was for the readers. The editors already know the page is bad.Aaaronsmith (talk) 18:35, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes Phil5329, I DO see disclaimers on other wiki pages.Aaaronsmith (talk) 01:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Since you don't like the way I have tried to inform the reader of the article's bias, why don't you come up with a way to explain a 2000% error? This is not a rhetorical question. If you can't do it, please let someone who's at least willing to try make the attempt.Aaaronsmith (talk) 01:31, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Problem
editInteresting observation: The legal system I am most familiar with defines a "riot" as any public disturbance involving 4 or more people and it can be prosecuted as the crime of riot. At 3 or less, it's only "disturbing the peace".Aaaronsmith (talk) 19:41, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Chinese imperial official examinations
editThe chinese beuracracy has had placement by exam for thousands of years. Only about 1 in 20 of the test takers got jobs. Every city that had the tests had riots after every test. For a total of (maybe?) 5 or 10 thousand riots overall?24.10.111.154 (talk) 05:52, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Really really incomplete
editWe seem to have missed all of the riots in Berkeley, Calif. USA. Most of the simultaneous riots of the Haight Ashbury, San Francisco, USA. And a whole bunch of college (university actually) riots that also took place at the same time. Two of which I am personally involved on the campus of the University of California at Los Angeles. And, unless I scanned too fast, not one single riot from the prisons of Mexico.24.10.111.154 (talk) 06:03, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm already as bored pointing out the mistakes as you are reading them.
Is it just my imagination or did we miss 15 or so riots by Muslim "youth" in France in the last decade?24.10.111.154 (talk) 06:12, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
The French wine growers are rioting - today.Aaaronsmith (talk) 18:36, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
An idea
editPerhaps we could edit this page to be list of NOTABLE riots? And then instead of adding an infinite amount of riots we could subtract some instead? -Phil5329 (talk) 21:47, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Missing riots
editJust stumbled across this site:
http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/archives/4701-Banned-in-China.html
Basically claims 74,000 riots in China in the last few years.
Now, I wonder, if the chinese can keep the MSM from being aware of that many riots, how many riots in the rest of the world are being concealed from this little attempt at Political Correctness?Aaaronsmith (talk) 22:24, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Grouped by cause?
editWas/is there a page which organized the riots by the "cause" (i mean both the motivations of the initial rioters and conditions which led to the riot)? i only ask because i had a friend doing essay work regarding anti-globalization, and i, remembering some page which featured a list of anti-globalist riots, spent nearly an hour on wikipedia looking for it.
ADF this page fast. It's a bad mistake.
editDo a search on the web: Use "riots in china" and "per day". With a little looking you will find several things confirming 74,000 riots a year in china in 2008.
Example:
http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2005/09/pollution_spark.html
An article that can't even keep current on current events is a major misinformation to the average reader.
Delete this thing. Please.Aaaronsmith (talk) 03:17, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Wiki has several articles (most of them "lists") just as bad.71.197.69.67 (talk) 23:18, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
We've missed the most recent Mexican prison riot (17 Sept. 2008)71.197.69.67 (talk) 22:08, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Update: The same Mexican prison has had a second riot 19 dead this time. I notice this list does not include one single prison riot outside Western culture and only 3 outside the United States. My word, the US must be a truly terrible place if killers and psychopaths in foreign prisons are so happy they never riot.
Are we sure this page meets minimum standards for simple common sense? It's terrible.71.197.69.67 (talk) 20:21, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
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AfD suggested real fast
editJust did a little checking.
This list is losing ground just in the Western cultures. If you include the whole world, it's coming up short a couple HUNDRED A DAY!
That is just plain ridiculous.Aaaronsmith (talk) 19:51, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Do we even have a definition of riot? In (modern) cultures, a riot can is legally defined as everything from as few as four participants, or must involve violence, or must involve a refusal to disperse, or (some of the more authoritarian countries) any public gathering that does not have a license.
This article has all of the problems of a bad article. I want it Afd, but if you want to keep it, the least you can do is provide a working definition.Aaaronsmith (talk) 21:35, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Since I last made the above post, this article has lost ground by about 9,000 "riots" (by some definition). Would one of the really interested parties Please start a thread on fixing this turkey.Aaaronsmith (talk) 21:45, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
There were not any ...
edit... food riots in Austria in 2007f. Is there any possibility that someone mistook her for Australia? 62.47.61.129 (talk) 15:39, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Undefined content = huge mess
editI'll add my voice to others on this talk page: without a clear idea of what goes in, no definition of what "riot" means in the context of this page, this is nothing more than an arbitrary collection of events ranging from minor protests to bloody riots. Wikipedia not being an ndiscriminate collection of information, it would be reasonable to limit the list to those riots that are significant or at the very least "notable" enough to have an article on Wikipedia (and notable *as* a riot (as opposed to a notable event where violence is a footnote). Equendil Talk 20:07, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
HUGE MESS
editYou know, this article is just plain awful. We've missed several thousand riots just in 2009 - if you include the whole world and don't just want to make the parts w a free press look bad. We even missed the Mexico prison riots of the last months and even the Mexican press reported that - in detail.
Will someone who knows how please put this turkey up for AFD?Aaaronsmith (talk) 01:33, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
AfD
editThought I followed the directions on the help page exactly. Somehow the results did not match what they told me to expect.
Apologies, but will someone with experience please fix my mistakes (I've tried twice, by two different methods) and put this up for AfD. I promise I will not use YOUR AfD as an argument against you if you actually want to keep the article.Aaaronsmith (talk) 00:17, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- Done. It's been a while since I've done an AfD nom by hand. It's good practice. :) Tim Song (talk) 01:30, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- Could we perhaps make this a list of NOTABLE riots? I don't know how to decide if a riot is notable enough but...-Phil5329 (talk) 21:35, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- Referred to specifically as a riot and received significant coverage in at least two reliable sources? Fences&Windows 23:42, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
- Could we perhaps make this a list of NOTABLE riots? I don't know how to decide if a riot is notable enough but...-Phil5329 (talk) 21:35, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Luddites
editWe have included the Luddite riots of England (as a category, we missed the individual events), but we have not included the parallel riots of the rest of the world (and I do mean the REST of the world).Aaaronsmith (talk) 17:18, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Riots that are easy to document
editI notice we have only three of the soccer riots listed.
These are very well documented. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaaronsmith (talk • contribs) 21:39, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
World War II (and a whole lot of other wars)
editWe do not have any of the "prisoner of war" riots that occured in prison camps. This happened a lot. If the prisoners thought they were being set up to die (usually by starvation, with the administrative excuse of "the food will arrive tomorrow") the common response was to riot - thereby having some small chance of survival.Aaaronsmith (talk) 21:54, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
RfD
editYa know guys. Wiki already has a "list of riots and civil unrest in Omaha, Nebraska". Has about 40 entries.
If we've missed this many for ONE city, it would seem THIS list should have what? 40 - 50 million entries?
How about someone who know how put it up for RfD.Aaaronsmith (talk) 17:38, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Article needs substantial citations
editThis article is interesting, and has the potential to be useful; however, per WP:V we should not be sourcing assertions with other Wikipedia articles, nor should we have substantive assertions that are unsourced by reliable secondary sources with inline citations. I have tagged just a few of the assertions that need cited with {{citation needed}}. N2e (talk) 17:39, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Citations and sources are needed
editPlease be sure that all additions to the List of riots are verifiable. Any new items added to the article should have inline citations for each claim made.
I have removed the major part of the unsourced material that had been previously tagged {{citation needed}} for at least a couple of months with no sources added. If you have a source, please feel free to add the material back in, along with the citation. N2e (talk) 16:32, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Warp 30, Ensign
editThe Sacramento Bee (June 13, 2011) has reprinted an article from the New York Times by Michael Wines. Basically, China has admitted to at least 127,000 (yes you read that right one hundred and twenty seven THOUSAND) riots last year.
This list is getting to be a terrible joke. Can't we at least change the name to something that actually makes sense?
This list is actually losing ground at about the same rate as an attempt to manually list the birth weight of each child born. We're LOSING guys. Let's fix it.Aaaronsmith (talk) 20:38, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- At the very least, we should approach this the same way List of named passenger trains was approached years ago. Split it up and turn this page into a meta-list. ----DanTD (talk) 23:20, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
This list of riots makes lots of sense, and is completely manageable. It is totally understandable that the request to delete it, was nixxed. It makes a lot of sense that there is more riots in 2011 than the entire 1970s. Alas, I've noted that the 'Australian Nudist Colony Riot of 2008' was missed. Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,505137,00.html. Could someone add it for me ? :P OK, I'll remove my clown hat now and put on my serious hat now. On a serious note, if pushing rope seems like a worthwhile endeavor and this page isn't allowed to die a natural death, it would seem to make a lot more sense if the riots were grouped by region first and then time and it only included riots that were significant (aka newsworthy) for that region in that time period rather than every little riot. If a group of riots for a region and time period of a certain nature e.g. food riots, were common place a note could be made to that effect. If there is a riot on this list that noone would not remember in 20 years, or noone outside of the municipality it occurred in knows about, it probably shouldn't be on this list. Just my thoughts. Good Luck. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.209.238 (talk) 05:50, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
SF bay area???
editwhat of all that has recently taken place in oakland regarding oscar grant and the 99% rallies that became very violent? what of the white night riots stonewall and the like? this page needs improvement — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.207.26.30 (talk) 18:05, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Merge "List of Deadly Riots"
editI've noticed that the article List of deadly riots was recently created. While it might prove much easier to update than this one (hence why I didn't nominate it for CSD), it looks like a lot of it might be copy-pasted from here, and may perhaps be redundant. I'm not convinced we really need both. Thoughts? This article is already massive in scope, so I'm a little unsure as to how to proceed. Cheers, Zaldax (talk) 20:45, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
- Totally agree. There is much too much overlap. Oncenawhile (talk) 07:58, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
A good list of historical riots
editCan be found on p51 of Behind the Shield by Hunsicker - the list can be seen here [1]. Oncenawhile (talk) 08:49, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Maybe the page description should state if it is a list of factual real-world riots
editSomeone added "2006 - The Falador Massacre Riot in a MMORPG game called RuneScape" to the list, referring, apparently, to a "riot" inside a computer game. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arcanicus (talk • contribs) 22:31, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- That's stupid. Here's a real-world riot in Venezuela. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 14:40, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
About Gwangju Democratization movement
editIt wasn't riot at all. So I deleted it. Angsurium (talk) 12:40, 30 March 2014 (UTC)Angsurium
Disambiguation of riot from unlawfull protest and civil unrest
editMost countries in the world do pocess strict definitions and keep legal records of those events. Those records are a safe source of reference for the build up of that list and encyclopedic referencing. On the other hand, different media outlet and political groups tend to instrumentalise the term riot in order to alienate socio-political movements in order to attack the legitimity of different demonstration events that could be otherwise described as peacefull protests, civil disobedience, parades, celebrations and/or even public assemblies. This is a known strategy typically used by authoritarian regimes to attack and supress dissent, freedom of speech and resistence movements. In order to keep the neutrality of that article, I propose we only list in this article events that corresponds to those legal descriptions and to witch credible records assess the pertinence of the event to be described as a riot.
for example, in Canada :
Unlawful Assemblies
63. (1) An unlawful assembly is an assembly of three or more persons who, with intent to carry out any common purpose, assemble in such a manner or so conduct themselves when they are assembled as to cause persons in the neighbourhood of the assembly to fear, on reasonable grounds, that they(a) will disturb the peace tumultuously; or(b) will by that assembly needlessly and without reasonable cause provoke other persons to disturb the peace tumultuously. Lawful assembly becoming unlawful (2) Persons who are lawfully assembled may become an unlawful assembly if they conduct themselves with a common purpose in a manner that would have made the assembly unlawful if they had assembled in that manner for that purpose. Exception(3) Persons are not unlawfully assembled by reason only that they are assembled to protect the dwelling-house of any one of them against persons who are threatening to break and enter it for the purpose of committing an indictable offence therein.
Riot
64. A riot is an unlawful assembly that has begun to disturb the peace tumultuously.
Punishment of rioter
65. (1) Every one who takes part in a riot is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years. Concealment of identity(2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) while wearing a mask or other disguise to conceal their identity without lawful excuse is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years.
Punishment for unlawful assembly
66. (1) Every one who is a member of an unlawful assembly is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction. Concealment of identity (2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) while wearing a mask or other disguise to conceal their identity without lawful excuse is guilty of(a) an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or(b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.
Reading proclamation
67. A person who is(a) a justice, mayor or sheriff, or the lawful deputy of a mayor or sheriff,(b) a warden or deputy warden of a prison, or(c) the institutional head of a penitentiary, as those expressions are defined in subsection 2(1) of the Corrections and Conditional Release Act, or that person’s deputy, who receives notice that, at any place within the jurisdiction of the person, twelve or more persons are unlawfully and riotously assembled together shall go to that place and, after approaching as near as is safe, if the person is satisfied that a riot is in progress, shall command silence and thereupon make or cause to be made in a loud voice a proclamation in the following words or to the like effect: Her Majesty the Queen charges and commands all persons being assembled immediately to disperse and peaceably to depart to their habitations or to their lawful business on the pain of being guilty of an offence for which, on conviction, they may be sentenced to imprisonment for life. GOD SAVE THE QUEEN.
Offences related to proclamation
68. Every one is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life who (a) opposes, hinders or assaults, wilfully and with force, a person who begins to make or is about to begin to make or is making the proclamation referred to in section 67 so that it is not made; (b) does not peaceably disperse and depart from a place where the proclamation referred to in section 67 is made within thirty minutes after it is made; or (c) does not depart from a place within thirty minutes when he has reasonable grounds to believe that the proclamation referred to in section 67 would have been made in that place if some person had not opposed, hindered or assaulted, wilfully and with force, a person who would have made it. Neglect by peace officer 69. A peace officer who receives notice that there is a riot within his jurisdiction and, without reasonable excuse, fails to take all reasonable steps to suppress the riot is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/fra/lois/c-46/page-22.html#docCont
If you take in consideration that
6. (1) Where an enactment creates an offence and authorizes a punishment to be imposed in respect of that offence, (a) a person shall be deemed not to be guilty of the offence until he is convicted or discharged under section 730 of the offence; and (b) a person who is convicted or discharged under section 730 of the offence is not liable to any punishment in respect thereof other than the punishment prescribed by this Act or by the enactment that creates the offence.
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/fra/lois/c-46/page-4.html#docCont
Therefore, as long as some events are not explicitely described as riots by legal authorities, enacting the article 67 of the Criminal code, the events should be considered foremost as alleged unlawful assemblies, so, not be listed on that page.
As an example, the part of the article 2012 – Riots in Montreal, due to tuition cost increase, referred to as the Maple Spring or Printemps érable, 2500 arrests as of May 25. refers to civil unrest events that implies a multitude of protests under the form of lawfull and unlawfull assemblies. As far as my own research on the subject went, at no moment during this political movement I found an event where the article 67 was enacted neither any individual accused by the authorities under the article 65 during that movement, thus, this part of the article should be removed.
If at any moment, records are found that proves a riot did occur and accusations where deliverd , then, the specific riot event should be added to the list, not all the political movement that was devloping in the backgound.
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editDoes 2019 Hong Kong anti-extradition bill protests consider as one of a notable riots in 2019 ? Especially for June 12, July 1, July 21 and 5 August protests. On June 12, the police officially declare it was. On July 1, Protesters damaged portraits of former pro-Beijing presidents of the Legislative Council, spray-painted slogans and smashed furniture, defaced the Hong Kong emblem, waved the Union Flag and displayed the colonial Hong Kong flag on the podium. At the same time, protesters hung up signs and installed barricades, warning others to protect cultural objects and to do no damage to books in the library while protesting. The police started using tear gas to disperse protesters around the LegCo at 12:05 am and reached the building 15 minutes later. On July 21, 2019 Yuen Long violence occurred. On 5 August, a city-wide strike and protest occurred. On 5 August, there are numerous of violence event in Tsuen Wan and North Point. There are estimated at least 140 injuries and 100 people arrested in Hong Kong. Joeccho (talk) 05:57, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Recent demonstrations in Cuba
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