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Numbering system in the table ranking tallest buildings has errors
editWhen ranking things in an order, if there are ties you're supposed to end up skipping numbers. For example, in the table for this page it lists a building ranked 13, then two at "14=", and then one at 15. This is wrong! It should be 13, 14=, 14=, 16. Entry #14 and #15 are tied for 14th, entry #16 is the 16th tallest.
This matters because when you look at the bottom of the list where it ends with "Mashreq Bank Headquarters" at 74, it gives the false impression that the list contains 74 buildings, when actually it's quite a bit larger than that due to a large number of ties scattered throughout the list.
Note that the similar page for skyscrapers in New York City does it right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_New_York_City 100.0.174.15 (talk) 15:49, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- Agree!
- -AAEexecutive (talk) 21:12, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Problems
editIt looks like the convert template has broken some way down this page. How do we fix it? Astronaut 13:07, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
This smells like bait for a conspiracy theorist has been injected into the opening text: Dubai, the largest city in the United Arab Emirates, is home to 911 completed high-rises. Can anyone fact check? Otherwise, the 911 needs to go. Lancer 7:00, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Dancing Towers → Signature Towers
editI believe that the name of the Dancing Towers development has changed. It is now Signature Towers. This is what it says on the Signature Towers page, but there is no source. I do not want to change the name of the buildings on this page (under the Proposed section) until a source is found. I just thought I should say this. --Leitmanp 07:09, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I decided to change it anyways. --Leitmanp (talk|contributions) 21:26, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Unsourcable Buildings
editThe Jumeirah Beach Residence buildings listed in the "Tallest buildings" section do not have a source. On Emporis, the height is not listed. Because this height is not there, does that mean that they must be removed? I do not know how tall they are, or where we can find that information. --Leitmanp 02:36, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
- I have commented those out until a height and source are found. Hydrogen Iodide (HI!) 02:23, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- I think I have found a source for these buildings. On this page they list all the buildings and their heights. The Jumeirah Beach Residence buildings are also listed there with their heights in metres. But, if you select one of the buildings, the height is not listed on its page. It seems that we will have to use the full list as a source for the individual buildings. Does this sound okay? --Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 21:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Yup. Cheers. Trance addict 03:10, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Incomplete List?
editI am not sure about what to do for buildings which are clearly among the tallest in the city but do not have heights. SkyscraperPage lists 42 buildings under construction that will rise over 150 m, but this list only includes the 36 with height sources. I am worried that because some buildings are left out, the list will not satisfy the completion requirement for FLs. Comments? Rai-me 21:22, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
References list
editI think that the references list is too long. Since we cannot just delete sources, can we put it in its own scroll box (I do not know if that is the right name for it)? I have seen it being used on other pages, but I cannot remember which pages those were. This scroll box is like having a page within a page. The references section does not take up a lot of space on the article's page, but it has a scroll bar. This allows people who care to look at the sources the opportunity by scrolling through them. Does this sound like a good idea? If I did not make any sense, please let me know and I will try to say it differently. --Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 03:26, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- Scrolling lists are strongly discouraged due to accessibility issues; see Wikipedia:Citing sources#Scrolling lists. So I don't think that this is a good idea, and also think that we should leave the references as is. Cheers, Rai-me 03:43, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Fact Discrepancy
editWhat should be done if Emporis and SkyscraperPage differ. If you look at the pages on each website for a specific building, there might be different heights, amounts of floors, completion dates, and status. A few days ago, when I added some buildings, I used both sources for "Al Bateen Tower," "Providence Tower," "El Matador Tower," "The Prime Tower" and "The Forum." There are also several other buildings that I want to add, but they do not agree with each other. Which source should be followed, Emporis or SkyscraperPage? --Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 02:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC) --[Update by Leitmanp (talk | contributions) at 03:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)]
- I want to add several more buildings to the list, but like I said above, the information is different. Buildings that have different names are Al Manara Tower / Kharbash Investment Co Tower and the Dubai Gate 1 / Dubai Gate Tower. The building that conflicts on year of completion is the Al Sahab Tower 1 (2004[1] versus 2005[2]). The buildings that conflict on the status are Silver Star (approved[3] vs. under construction[4][5]), and Dubai Star (proposed[6] vs. under construction[7]). For the amount of floors, the Angsana Hotel & Suites 1 (49[8] vs. 50[9]) has conflicting information. Two buildings differs on two things. The first one differs on the name and on the number of floors: Damas Tower 2 (with 49 floors)[10] vs. Angsana Hotel & Suites 2 (with 50 floors)[11]. The second one (Al Hekma Tower) differs on the year of completion and on the current status: approved (completion in 2009)[12] vs. under construction (completion in 2008)[13]. The four towers that comprise Dubai Towers Dubai have several conflicting pieces of data. Emporis says that the towers are approved while SkyscraperPage says they are under construction. Emporis also says that Tower 1 has 57 floors, Tower 4 has 94 floors, and Towers 2 and 3 are unknown. SkyscraperPage says that Tower 1 has 94 floors, Tower 4 has 57 floors, Tower 2 has 78 floors, and Tower 3 has 73. So, what should be done? --Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 05:12, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
- We usually go with the information listed by Emporis over that of SkyscraperPage if the two conflict. However, if more than one source gives information that contradicts that given by Emporis, use that info. So, by this logic, use Al Manara Tower, Dubai Gate (Tower) 1, 2004 for the Al Sahab Tower, Silver Star as U/C, Dunai Star as proposed, Angsana Hotel & Suites 1 as 49, Damas Tower 2 with 49 floors, 2009 and approved for the Al Hekma Tower, and all of the Emporis information for Dubai Towers Dubai. In general, use Emporis over SkyscraperPage, unless a third source agrees with SkyscraperPage. However, if the reports conflict, only use the one that you used (Emporis) as an actual reference on the list. Cheers, Rai-me 17:12, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- Emporis is definitely better. On skyscraperpage an estimate for the height is sometimes given even when it's not known precisely. This is so the tower doesn't appear at the end of the list Rahmalec (talk) 00:36, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- I believe that the Center for Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat (CTBUH), which runs a website called SkyscraperCenter, is considered to be 'the officials.' AAEexecutive (talk) 20:59, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
- Emporis is definitely better. On skyscraperpage an estimate for the height is sometimes given even when it's not known precisely. This is so the tower doesn't appear at the end of the list Rahmalec (talk) 00:36, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- We usually go with the information listed by Emporis over that of SkyscraperPage if the two conflict. However, if more than one source gives information that contradicts that given by Emporis, use that info. So, by this logic, use Al Manara Tower, Dubai Gate (Tower) 1, 2004 for the Al Sahab Tower, Silver Star as U/C, Dunai Star as proposed, Angsana Hotel & Suites 1 as 49, Damas Tower 2 with 49 floors, 2009 and approved for the Al Hekma Tower, and all of the Emporis information for Dubai Towers Dubai. In general, use Emporis over SkyscraperPage, unless a third source agrees with SkyscraperPage. However, if the reports conflict, only use the one that you used (Emporis) as an actual reference on the list. Cheers, Rai-me 17:12, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Main Page
editAny chance this article could make it as a Today's featured article on the Main Page?--OOODDD (talk) 07:10, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- I do not think that is possible. First of all, this article is a list. There is no "Featured lists" section on the main page. But, if it was an article, you could request it at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests. For a "List of the day" you can go to Wikipedia:LOTD. --Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 01:53, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Pentominium
editThere is no mention of the Pentominium on this page. I believe it is to be 618 metres tall.....??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.195.92.146 (talk) 13:26, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Someone added some new pictures!
editSome guy added some new pictures which are great but also added 2 very dumb paragraphs and some sloppy image locations. I went in and fixed it up back to normal but the new pictures look pretty decent. - DubaiTerminator (talk)
On-Hold towers ???
editthere should be a new section of On-hold towers in dubai because there are a number of skyscrapers which are currently on-hold.
Images in the table
editI want to suggest that the images of buildings should be in the table. Because the current style , images in the right side of the page looks awful and that due to these pictures the table is seems to be shrink which doesnt looks nice. As this article is a featured article i want to suggest to add images in the table as in *List of tallest buildings in New York City
Colossal (talk) 11:46, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
- I really don't think it looks awful, this article is a featured list after all and if anyone thought the images were really 'awful' they probably would have brought it up... I think this discussion may have stemmed from the one here. --timsdad (talk) 13:17, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Skyscrapers need to be updated
editThere are too many skyscrapers within Dubai that have not been updated on this article and there own individual pages. The information people are getting is old and therefore untrue. I can't do all the updating by my self so I'm asking for more help. - DubaiTerminator (talk)
I am thinking the same..... well i have updated the article of Burj al alam, as its construction has been resumed.(It is ,mentioned in Emporis)..I will try to update these articles one by one.
Pentominium's Height !
editI have been seen that every body is reverting the height of pentominium to either 516 meters or to 618 meters, giving the only source which is its official website.Previously it was suposed to be 516 meters tall but after sometime its height has been increased to 618 meters tall with an additional spire.I have listed below a number of reliable sources whcih either states that it will be tallest residential tower in the world (which means it will be taller then chicago spire,whose projected height is 610 meters so it will be 618 meters tall). While another source states that:.
"The Pentominium will be the tallest all-residential building in the world upon completion and it currently has the highest projected height of any residential building under construction, according to Aedas, the project designers".
So its a strong point here that Aedas who are the designers of Pentominium has given this statement.
So it means that pentominium will be atleats 618 meters tall, as well as its for sure that it is gonna built, its construciton is on fast track you can view its construction status in skyscrapercity.com.
Its official website might not updated its new height of 618 meters, there its height is written as 516 meters.
- Emporis.com
- Gulfnews.com
- Constructionweekonline.com
- Engineeringcivil.com
- Business.rediff.com
- Dubai-online.com
- Tallestbuildingintheworld.com
- Estatesdubai.com
- UAEskyscrapers.com
- Burjofdubai.com
- Daily-india-live.com
Nabil rais2008 (talk) 14:16, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yet the official site continues to say it is 516 m. And some of the sites you linked to, have problems.
Constructionweekonline.comDoesn't mention heightBusiness.rediff.comDead link?Tallestbuildingintheworld.comActually has both heights!
- There is also a similar problem with the number of floors with some sites saying 120, some with 122 and some with 124. In these kinds of cases, I tend to think the primary source (ie. the official site) is more reliable since it is written by the prople who should be in the know. Astronaut (talk) 02:23, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
- The Pentominium will be the tallest all-residential building in the world upon completion and it currently has the highest projected height of any residential building under construction, according to Aedas, the project designers.
- this is the statment of the dsigners of pentominium on Construciton week online, which clearly shows the pentominium will be tallest rsidnetial tower beating chicago's 610 meters height !!!
- The official site is relible i suppose but there might be a reason that it is not update, as 516 meters is the hirhgt to the roof, while the spire topps the height to 618 meters, the majority of the sites which i had mentioned previously has given the height of 618 meters,
- if it is suppoosed to be 516 meters tall so why these all sources states that it will be the tallest residential tower in the world, which implies that it will be taller than chicago spire (at 610 meters).................
- we shall have to wait until its official site may update its height.
- Nabil rais2008 (talk) 14:30, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
- Perhaps a way out of this would be for the Pentominium article to make mention of the different heights in different sources. How about some wording like: "The official site says the building will be 516 m when completed,(ref) but many independant sources state the height will be 618 m.(ref)(ref)(ref) There is currently no explanation for this large difference in height." I don't see a problem with this kind of thing if you keep the references to reliable sources only (ie. no blogs or forums).
- Meanwhile, other articles linking to the Pentominium article should be consistant in using one of these heights. Astronaut (talk) 16:37, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
What about Emporis, it say that pentominimu will be 618 meters tall !!!
Nabil rais2008 (talk) 15:29, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
- But Emporis also says that Pentominium is under construction (frame assembly). Isn't it past that stage? --timsdad (talk) 15:34, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
No, its frame doesnt assemble yet, its still in its foundation stage, nor any pouring has been done yet !
Section On-Hold
editThere should be a new section of On hold skyscrapers, as there are a number of skyscrapers in dubai which are put on hold due to financial crises, or even cancelled,so i will propose a new section under the heading of "On-Hold and Cancelled buildings"
as far i know the following towers are currently on hold:
- Burj Al Alam
- Marina 106(few sources say), but majority of them say tht it is Approved Or Proposed.
- Lighthouse tower
- Bin Manana Tower 1
- The skyscraper
- Al Hekma tower
- The Palm Trump International Hotel & Tower
- Anantara Hotel
- Jumeirah Lake Apartments
- Jumeirah Lake Offices
and cancelled towers are
- Al Sharq tower (Emporis say tht it has been cancelled)
- Provedence tower
- Nakheel tower(CTBUH say its has been cancelled)
We have quit enough content regarding the creation of new section, also we can find out more on hold skyscrapers in existing list of skyscrapers.
Can we replace picture?
editcan someone pls replace the picture at the top with a completed picture of the Burj K the one right now is old and cladding is not compelte thank Supertallfan (talk) 01:13, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
- I've replaced it; though you could have too.—DMCer™ 02:01, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Ocean Heights
editA couple of points about Ocean Heights:
- The tower appears at number 12 in the list but the description says: "is now the 8th-tallest building in the city"
- Also the tower appears in the Under Construction section but currently is mostly handed over.
Are the three buildings called "The Address..." the same buliding?
editI suspect that these three are the same building (even though listed separately in this article):
- The Address Downtown Dubai - completed, and had fire New Year 2015-16,
- The Address the BLVD - described as "under construction" in it's article,
- The Address Residence Fountain Views - a red link in the "Approved" section in this article.
FrankSier (talk) 12:32, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- No, they're different. Actually, there are several buildings with "The Address" in their name, but they're all owned by Emaar Properties, and they're all in Dubai, so it's easy to get confused. I can't paste a direct link, but there's a list at https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/search#q-The%20Address (case sensitive)
Delete, not merge
editWhy would we merge this with the tallest buildings? It's not one of the tallest buildings -- not even close. This is just one of the many adverts for non-notable, not close to being the tallest building in the Dubai, articles. --2604:2000:E016:A700:1943:ADF8:9B7D:A566 (talk) 19:54, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
Thoughtless merge suggestion; Delete
editThe merge suggestion seems thoughtless. This is 20 stories. The tallest buildings in Dubai are over 100 stories. There are dozens and dozens taller buildings. This should be deleted. It is a disservice to suggest not prodding this article, but merging a non-notable small building into a larger list, taking no action to delete it as a standalone, and leaving it here forever .. as merge suggestions are addressed typically. --2604:2000:E016:A700:1943:ADF8:9B7D:A566 (talk) 20:01, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
Delete, not merge
editNot one of Dubai's tallest buildings. Should be deleted. --2604:2000:E016:A700:1943:ADF8:9B7D:A566 (talk) 20:08, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
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Failed proposals
editFollowing the construction of Burj Khalifa, a large number of other extremely tall towers have been proposed for Dubai. Of the towers listed on this page, 13 towers taller than 400 meters have been proposed, of which none have made it to completion. New and ludicrous proposals keep being made, fail spectacularly, and fall by the wayside at a steady pace. I can't think of any other city where 400m tall towers are announced with such spectacular fanfare and continue on to spectacular failure with such regularity. Should this trend be noted somewhere in the article text, or should we keep the tables better updated and let them speak for themselves? Codraroll (talk) 21:45, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
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addresses
editPlease add the addresses of the buildings on the main chart. AAEexecutive (talk) 23:41, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
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IP editors
editThe article has been fiddled with since November 22, 2023 by a long series of IP editors. Spot checks show numbers such as heights being changed that don't match the sources. I have reverted the whole bunch. It may have reverted some good edits also I am sorry. Special:Diff/1203800624/1203840446 -- GreenC 18:28, 5 February 2024 (UTC)