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Ukraine has already got accreditation for information here a link for you with all lincence and etc. http://www.wiuu.edu.ua/about-us/accreditation-and-licensure/. Please change it on Wisconsin International University, Florida, Ghana (Wisconsin International University College has National Accreditation Board accreditation in Ghana as a university college affiliated with the University of Ghana and University of Cape Coast), Ukraine and other locations, now using the name Worldwide International University
Andrew6686 (talk) 08:11, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
- This school is still using the name "Wisconsin International University" despite claims to the contrary; this is clear from the link you gave. I can't really judge the Ukrainian accreditation claims, but this US credentials site calls credentials from this school "unverifiable". Hairhorn (talk) 16:28, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
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Add Paramount California University to list of unaccredited institutions Semi-protected edit request on 17 November 2016
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Add to the list: Paramount California University
Not accredited. Not found doing business search in the state it claims to operate from. Diplomamill. http://www.pcu.edu/why/accreditation/ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_unaccredited_institutions_of_higher_education&action=submit# Plato on Mars (talk) 17:42, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. jfeise (talk) 18:14, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
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Hello, in the "R" list, "La Rochville University" is mentioned as being accredited in France... Such university does not seem to exist and it could rather be the "University of La Rochelle" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_La_Rochelle). Hope it can help! Best regards, B. B avril (talk) 16:51, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
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Add accreditation from the Accrediting Commission of International College and Universities (ACICU) http://www.acicu.org/ to Regent International University. Remove extraneous language of (Not to be confused with Regent University, an accredited school) RMM17 (talk) 17:35, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: ACICU itself is unaccredited. [1] Stickee (talk) 22:55, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
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Please remove the outgoing link from Calvary University. Calvary University in your article is an unaccredited university based in Virgina. The outgoing link you put in place links to an accredited university (HLC and ABHE) in Kansas City, MO, called Calvary University (formerly Calvary Bible College). To verify our status please see http://www.calvary.edu/accreditations-and-authorizations/ CalvaryUniv (talk) 18:59, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- Done jfeise (talk) 01:09, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
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Requesting that someone please add a sentence that Atlantic International University is accredited by the Accreditation Service for International Colleges [1] a UK based recognized accreditation agency listed in the Council for Higher Education Accreditation's international directory [2]
Thank you HLWhittendale (talk) 04:54, 6 May 2017 (UTC) HLWhittendale (talk) 04:54, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Not done The institution itself says it is not accredited by any accreditation agency recognized by the US DoE.[3] jfeise (talk) 14:48, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I saw that. However, I did not realize that this article only applies to the United Sates. If so, maybe it should read "List of Unaccrecited Institutions of Higher Education In The United States." Some of the institutions on this list have legit accreditation but not in the US hence, I was confused. To the public eye, it reads as if some of these institutions have no accreditation at all, which is inaccurately presented. Just trying to make sure readers are not being misinformed as to some of these institutions. Although the accreditation agency is not US based, they are recognized accreditors in the Council for Higher Education Accreditation's directory hence, a special line adding that the institution is accredited, but not by a US based agency would be sufficient. This gives readers accurate information.
Thanks for you time HLWhittendale (talk) 04:58, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- This topic, in connection with this particular US-based institution has come up before, in October 2015, here and here. jfeise (talk) 02:25, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
Wow, it appears to be an on going issue. However, some good points were made by all. Hopefully this will get resolved in the near future.
Cheers HLWhittendale (talk) 03:19, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
Hey. I agree with the people here. The article should be named: List of higher education providers unaccredited by US based organizations." Or something like this. As we know, the US is not good at regulating, and they often demand a lot of money and unnecessary procedures for what they do. So some of these schools are great schools, like AIU, and they went another way (a legit way) with their accreditation. The article is misleading. Furthermore, it ruins the reputation of good schools, when people of the digital age believe everything they read on Google/Wikipedia. Reading this article, potential employers will just read "FAKE SCHOOL" and deny good people. btw, this is my first comment, so very sorry if I'm doing something wrong with signing or anything else... Abi90no (talk) 08:47, 27 May 2017 (UTC)abi90no
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@Calton and Jfeise: You would think that the owners of this article would check the South Asian Institute of Technology and Medicine before blindly reverting. No, one has to "prove" a negative in order to remove erroneous content from an encyclopedic article. Well here it is:
- Exhibit 1: The Sri Lankan Ministry of Higher Education and Highways website shows that the South Asian Institute of Technology and Medicine is a recognised degree awarding institute under section 25A of Universities Act No. 16, 1978.
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European Graduate School
I would propose to remove this School from the list of unaccredited schools as it is accredited as a full university in Malta, and as such, its degrees would be as a matter of course, be accepted for admittance, for example, in other European Universities. There is no credible report that Malta does not conform to acceptable accreditation standards that I could find. This is not the job of Wikipedia to second guess accreditation standards of EU or other countries. Note: I have been a student, but don't have a degree, or diploma from them, so am not in conflict nor feel I should recuse myself from editing. Here is the link to Malta: http://ncfhe.gov.mt/en/register/Pages/list_universities.aspx Please note that none of the other universities accredited by Malta are on this list of Unaccredited institutions of higher education. With respect to the Maine and Texas pages, these are wholly irrelevant, as the fact that a country, state or province of a country doesn't accept an accreditation of one school or another does not mean that the University is unaccredited. So deleting that information is not deleterious or misleading. Serenest (talk) 23:55, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
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European Continental University, United Kingdom, Delaware
We believethat named above institute's name should no be in this list please visit website to clarify any legal documents you need to remove the name from this List. www.myecu.institute
Dear Wikipedians Please guide us to what further need to be taken to remove this Institute's name from this list.. thank you ALL in Advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sganetwork (talk • contribs) 03:00, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
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National University of Medical Sciences (NUMSS)
This school is an unaccredited grantor of false degrees, including DO degrees. See: https://ask.metafilter.com/318522/Is-the-National-University-of-Medical-Sciences-NUMSS-legitimate 173.251.104.146 (talk) 13:42, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
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Please change
Calamus International University (including Calamus Extension College and Vocalist International Distance Learning Academy), Vanuatu (formerly based in Turks and Caicos)[13][61]
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Calamus International University (including Calamus Extension College), Vanuatu (formerly based in Turks and Caicos)[13][61] Defacto24601 (talk) 13:42, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
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Ky. Christian University
I am a 1969 KCU, previously known as Kentucky Christian College. I have no idea where you got the idea that there is a diploma mill of the same name in Ashland, Ky., which is only 20 miles from Grayson. Having had very close contact with the school for over 50 years now I have never heard of this absurdity. Please give some proof of this assertion or remove this misinformation immediately. Disseminating false information us just as bad as those who promote bogus academic credentials. Johnalva (talk) 23:13, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Andersonville Seminary
I keep seeing some one add the ACIS "recognized" info on all entries about this "school" yet I can never find anything other than a link to their own website. What do you guys think? --Super--
Each school must be under the protection of government. Accreditation is a matter of politics and nothing else. States protect academic degrees because they pay for professors who are their "soldiers". The degree of one state does not have to be recognized in another country. It's all about politics. Only knowledge nobody can take away. Behind every degree must be the knowledge, skills and talents. The employer must evaluate the employee according to his diploma and the abilities he or she is proving. At all state universities there is a purchase of diplomas and examinations paid in a variety of ways without and money to, secretly. And nothing to anyone! For the private sector of business, that is all the less important. It's just a work outfit and nothing else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.149.51.242 (talk) 16:00, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
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Warnborough College; Ireland, United Kingdom, and Canyon, Texas[7][12][15][22] Warnborough College, United Kingdom, is ASIC accredited as a Premier College. List of recognized higher education accreditation organizations The Accreditation Service for International Colleges (ASIC) for independent colleges in UK and colleges and universities worldwide. ASIC is an affiliate of ENQA.[27] Ku1268 (talk) 09:57, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
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(warnborough college united kingdom is a "ASIC Premier College" and accredited by the British Council) www.asic.org.uk/uk-direktory/ wikipedia, higher education accreditation ku1268 (talk) 14:28, 17 January 2019 (UTC) Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2019
United Kingdom[edit] Under the Education Reform Act 1988 it is illegal to offer a degree or qualification that implies it is a degree, unless the institution offering it is authorised by a Royal Charter or by or under an Act of Parliament, or is acting on behalf of an institution so authorised, or the award has been specifically designated by order of the Secretary of State.[20] The government maintains lists of "recognised bodies" that have the right to grant UK degrees,[21] and of "listed bodies" that offer courses validated by a recognised body and leading to degrees of that body.[22] UK institutions offering courses leading to degrees are subject to quality assurance by the Quality Assurance Agency (QAA).[23] The QAA is a member of INQAAHE and ENQA.[3][6] Higher Education Degree Datacheck is the official service for validating British degrees and authenticating universities. Professional degrees may be accredited by professional, statutory and regulatory bodies to ensure they meet the educational standards for professional licensure; a list of accrediting bodies recognised by the government is maintained by the Higher Education Statistics Agency.[24][25] For non-degree qualifications, including courses at the higher education level, there are four public accrediting bodies for the four countries of the United Kingdom. These are: Ofqual in England Qualifications Wales The Council for the Curriculum, Examinations & Assessment in Northern Ireland The Scottish Qualifications Authority All qualifications accredited by these bodies will have a level and a credit value on the Regulated Qualifications Framework (England and Northern Ireland), the Credit and Qualifications Framework for Wales, or the Scottish Credit and Qualifications Framework. Bodies with accredited qualifications, such as City & Guilds, may themselves accredit education providers to deliver courses leading to these qualifications. There are, additionally, four bodies offering institutional accreditation for private colleges that are recognized by the UK government for visa purposes:[26] Accreditation Service for International Colleges (ASIC) for independent colleges in UK and colleges and universities worldwide. ASIC is an affiliate of ENQA.[27] The British Accreditation Council (BAC) for independent higher education and further education institutions across the UK. BAC is also a member of INQAAHE and ENQA.[3][6] Accreditation UK, part of the British Council (a non-departmental public body sponsored by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office[28]), for English language schools only[29] The Accreditation Body for Language Services (ABLS) for English language schools[30] Additionally, the Open and Distance Learning Quality Council (ODLQC) was established by the government in 1969 as the Council for the Accreditation of Correspondence Colleges and took its current name in 1995. It is now an independent body that accredits home study, distance learning and online learning providers.[31] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Warnborough College (United Kingdom) is ASIC accredited ! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ku1268 (talk) 14:41, 21 January 2019 (UTC) Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2019
X=Warnborough College; Ireland, United Kingdom, and Canyon, Texas[7][12][15][22] Y=Warnborough College; Ireland and Canyon, Texas "please change X to Y because Warnborough College ist ASIC accredited as a premier institution, see allso: https://www.asic.org.uk/uk-directory/ , and:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recognized_higher_education_accreditation_organizations#United_Kingdom" ku1268 (talk) 11:17, 30 January 2019 (UTC) |
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Add unaccredited institution to list: Academy of Multi-Skills, UK. Creator of this bogus institution is the infamous Herbert Jeffery Wooller, also known as Baron Knowth. [4]Paulyeung0220 (talk) 10:06, 20 May 2019 (UTC) Paulyeung0220 (talk) 10:06, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Paulyeung0220: WP:SOURCES? BBC says nothing about the Academy of Multi-Skills. Tgeorgescu (talk) 10:18, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Tgeorgescu: Wooller admitted that he's selling unaccredited degrees in BBC interview. --Paulyeung0220 (talk) 06:37, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Tgeorgescu: Those "accreditation organisations" listed on "Academy of Multi-Skills (AMS)" website are not authorised to give accreditation or endorsing anything. For instance, UKRLP is a voluntary, open registry (not mandatory) for all education providers in the UK. UKRLP's website clearly states that the names appear on its registry does not mean that they are endorsed or accredited by UKRLP. Another "accrediting body" listed on AMS website is COPAB. COPAB is not an accredited "accreditation body", and there are members of COPAB who have been confirmed as diploma mills and bogus organisations. [5] Paulyeung0220 (talk) 06:49, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
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References
- ^ http://asicuk.com/institution-profiles/atlantic-international-university/
- ^ http://www.chea.org/4DCGI/chea/intl/detail.html?Action=chea&chea_activity=intl_directory&country_w=United%20Kingdom
- ^ https://www.aiu.edu/Accreditation.html
- ^ http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/7175730.stm
- ^ http://www.copab.net/memblist.html
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All 11 locations of the Connecticut School of Broadcasting are NOT accredited. The school oftentimes refers to being accredited (by the likes of the BBB) in a veiled effort to mislead. 24.199.143.102 (talk) 13:57, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
Not done Please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. jfeise (talk) 23:05, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
Potential changes to the list
Currently, there are institutions that no longer exist in this list. There are institutions in this list that lost accreditation. Both are not consistent - either you have a list of institutions of higher education that were never accredited or you have a list of currently unaccredited institutions of higher education - but both at the same time doesn't fit. Similarly, a large part of the list is based on sources that are more than four years old. Some have only sources from more than ten years ago. The list possibly needs an update.Lurking shadow (talk) 09:34, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- What about removing institutions that do not have Wikipedia articles? Vgy7ujm (talk) 19:58, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
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Add Liberty International University its location is a post box downtown and its a "Mill" SirRickBurton (talk) 12:00, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
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Religious institutions
Should there be a separate article/list for unaccredited religious institutions? There are a lot of religiously affiliated schools on this list. In some US states, religious colleges and universities are not required to have accreditation. Listing them separately would also help reduce the size of this article. UseAlready (talk) 16:42, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
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San Diego University for Integrative Studies or SDUIS, located in San Diego, CA should be added to the list of unaccredited institutions of higher education. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atesdeniz (talk • contribs) 22:15, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
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Please add the following:
National University of Medical Sciences (NUMSS)
This school is an unaccredited grantor of false degrees, including DO degrees. See the following link and relevant quote below: https://thedo.osteopathic.org/2018/10/fake-do-in-massachusetts-investigated-agrees-to-stand-down/
“AOA’s legal team is working with regulatory authorities to prevent unaccredited diploma mills like the National University of Medical Sciences from preying on unsuspecting students, who may not understand that an American DO is a fully licensed physician with a four-year medical degree and thousands of hours of supervised clinical training,” Bartabab (talk) 00:37, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
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"Add American University of Sovereign Nations under the list" Here is the website. https://ausovereignnations.org/ I have a couple of reliable sources that I can share with you. You can do a google search for "American University of Sovereign Nations Accreditation", then you will see a brief description of its accreditation status at the top of the results. This online school was denied accreditation by the Arizona State Board for Private Postsecondary Education in 2018.
You can verify the information from the Arizona State Board of Education website where you can view the meeting minutes that states the denial of accreditation of this school. You can download the file from here: https://ppse.az.gov/about/meetings To access the file, enter 2018 for year and February for month. Then, click "Apply Filters".
Katiemilleredits (talk) 08:22, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- Please include the link to the website below this comment. AngryHarpytalk 08:32, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- Done. AngryHarpytalk 08:45, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
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There is a need to add the following three purported Universities to the list of unaccredited colleges and universities: American Trinity University, Moreno, California, USA. The Trinity University in Seychelles, and Charisma University, Turks and Caicos Islands, British Overseas Territories. These are diploma mills masquerading as genuine higher institution of learning. Nriiepi (talk) 00:54, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
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List of universities accredited by DEAC
A new SPA has edited List of universities accredited by DEAC extensively in the past few weeks. Would any US editors find time to validate? There is probably no cause for concern but ... --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 19:23, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
No basis
The source for houdegbe North American university is not from the ministry of Education,Benin republic but rather from Nigeria.The university is situated at Benin republic not Nigeria Hnaub (talk) 16:47, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
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Grand Canyon University is also an accredited school. most of the courses are made up: Masters in Praying as the example. Poopoochow (talk) 13:33, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:00, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
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Add Provident University to unaccredited instituions list http://provident.university/ It was previously named Innova university. Both website use same http://innova.university/ Compare stock image faculty listed identically on both sites. Typos throughout both sites show duplicated information sometimes referring to Innova or Provident erroneously. 129.137.96.4 (talk) 14:39, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Not done for now: While this is obviously a quack "university" with a quack website, the inclusion criteria for the list and general requirements are that you can provide a reliable source which identifies these as scams. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:55, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Reliable sources
Please always provide a reliable source for your claims. Otherwise, what would prevent an institution like Harvird being listed here? jfeise (talk) 03:52, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
You can't just claim an institution is unaccredited. You have to provide a reliable source. WP:RS jfeise (talk) 03:57, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
"X is bad" may be true, but we can't just take your word on it. We need reliable sources. Otherwise, it is just your opinion and doesn't belong here. jfeise (talk) 04:06, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
Ashbourne University, England
Hello,
Can you please ADD Ashbourne University, England. It is a Diploma Mill, no such school. https://www.asic.org.uk/
To buy a degree from Ashbourne University, here is the website: http://www.diploma419.com/show.asp?id=1139
- has been added. RationalPuff (talk) 10:54, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
About Accreditation as a Governmental Designation (Is it always?)
Sentence 2 in the first paragraph of this article says: "In many countries, accreditation is defined as a governmental designation."
However there appear to be reputable private organisations, unaffiliated with national governments, which grant academic accreditation to institutions of higher education.
An example is the World Certification Institute.
The council members of the WCI can be viewed here, and the list of institutions accredited by the WCI can be seen here.
Is there a list of reputable private accreditation organisations on Wikipedia?
And does this article (and others) take into account accreditation from these bodies?
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https://www.near.university/ is a fake University that needs to be added to the list. Zero accreditations. Useless certifications. 72.253.138.20 (talk) 19:59, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- Not done for now: Needs to be notable enough for a Wikipedia article. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:03, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
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Please include University of Wilmington Metropolitan - operating without express exemption verification from state of california and claiming to be state recognized and registered and the associated organization is claiming to be US non profit however not supported by any proofs. several students have fallen to this scam as they are using .edu.eu url for training companies in the EU. Gunner2891 (talk) 15:03, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. MadGuy7023 (talk) 15:27, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
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"Add university in Burbank, CA: " Nightmeat's Unaccredited Wizard University " Source: https://goo.gl/maps/W84vtcqHK2gtwaez5" 66.215.152.149 (talk) 07:35, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Needs secondary sources discussing it, and must be notable enough for a Wikipedia article. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:48, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Pebble Hills University USA
PHU is not accredited by any accrediting agency recognized by the US Secretary of Education. Which means, In the United States, many licensing authorities require accredited degrees as the basis for eligibility for licensing. In some cases, accredited colleges may not accept for transfer courses and degrees completed at unaccredited colleges, and some employers may require an accredited degree as a basis for eligibility for employment.
Pebble Hills University or any of its degree programs are not accredited by any accrediting agency recognized by the United States Department of Education (USDE). A degree program that is unaccredited or a degree from an unaccredited institution is not recognized for some employment positions and/or immigration purposes. WES is unable to review any of our credentials at this time. WES requires US universities to be nationally or regionally accredited for them to evaluate the credentials.
Pebble Hills University was accredited in 2016 and the website was www.pebblehills.edu which later was changed to Pebblehills.university after its IAO accreditation expiration. 103.148.72.40 (talk) 05:23, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- So, you're confirming that it is an unaccredited school, without even the questionable International Accreditation Organization secondary accreditation. That's nice. Meters (talk) 06:13, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Warnborough College is not a fake institution.
TRUTH MATTERS, and the Wikipedia entry is misleading and contentious promoted by competitors. 212.159.24.153 (talk) 07:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- Warnborough College was founded in Oxford in 1973. It is well respected, accredited and recognized. (eril) 212.159.24.153 (talk) 16:12, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- This IP has a COI wrt to Warnborough College and has been indefinitely partially blocked from editing that article. Meters (talk) 06:19, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
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Remove Ohio Christian College from the list under "O", Ohio Christian University is regionally accredited by the Higher Learning Commission and should no longer be on this list. 74.113.40.174 (talk) 11:04, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
Edit request: "University American College Skopje" to be added in the list
You may also include in the fake list "University American College Skopje" (UACS) in Republic of North Macedonia [2], as a blatant hoax.178.221.111.78 (talk) 05:41, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
- It's not accredited in the USA as it claims on Home page [3].93.87.161.169 (talk) 12:05, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
- University American College Skopje is a joke.93.86.198.34 (talk) 01:31, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- It claims on its profile page that it is "accredited internationally by ACBSP – Accrediting Council for Business Schools and Program" and the ACBSP does indeed list University American College Skopje as an accredited member https://acbsp.org/page/membership_list . The ACBSP is recognized by the Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) https://www.chea.org/accreditation-council-business-schools-and-programs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meters (talk • contribs) 05:55, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- University American College Skopje is a joke.93.86.198.34 (talk) 01:31, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
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Summit Bible College, of Bakersfield, California, is a non-accredited institution of higher education. It's website is www.summitbiblecollege.com DrJeffVictor (talk) 13:44, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. You'll need to provide reliable secondary sources discussing this. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:51, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
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Hello, Line "The International University, Missouri or Nigeria", which is listed under letter "i" needs to be corrected gramaticaly as per its own reference or link "44" (an archived Nigerian announcement), because true wording in the reference 44 at page 8 (under item 28) is stated as following: "The International University, Missouri, USA operating anywhere in Nigeria".
Note: Since 70's or 80's, The International University, Missouri, USA had a small campus at Independance, Missouri, USA. It was unaccredited, but had all legal permits or privileges authorized by the State. It then had many worldwide full time studies campuses, and many were/are accredited or unaccredited by respective countries. It was also listed under UNESCO's pocketbook of worldwide universities in 80's. 172.97.212.36 (talk) 23:42, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Lightoil (talk) 02:36, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
Remove Bastyr University
Bastyr is accredited by NWCCU https://nwccu.org/member-institutions/directory/
it also has specific programmatic accreditations eg public health degree through CEPH ceph.org/featured/Bastyr-university
And ND degree through CNME
cnme.org/accredited-programs 97.113.49.48 (talk) 04:39, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks! ElKevbo (talk) 10:55, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
Edit request: "Harris University" to be added to the list
Blatant hoax. It is not accredited by any board and it cannot be found on any university datebase or ranking, it does not have a .edu domain, it claims to have existed since the 1962 yet only has a website since 2013, it claims to have been accredited by an organization that actually does not exist ("IAAS"), its published location leads to warehouses in the middle of nowhere according to Google Maps, none of the mentioned people have any sort of online presence (including its founder and dean), and it offers degrees for just $820.
https://www.harris-university-edu.us/
https://www.harris-university-edu.us/tuition-fees/
https://web.archive.org/web/20131129123422/http://harris-university-edu.us/about_us.html
https://ope.ed.gov/dapip/#/search-results
https://www.collegesanddegrees.com/college-profiles?college_name=harris-stowe-state-university Avenscl (talk) 03:48, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Tuition fees cover the cost of your study and include charges for registration, tuition, supervision, examinations and graduation.
- Payment of fees will also entitle you to membership of the library and the Students’ Union.
- Any offer of a place at the University is made on the understanding that you have sufficient funds to pay for your tuition fees and your living expenses for the entire duration of your period of study.
- The follow table lists the fees per subject. To give you a guideline for total costs per course, allow 30 – 40 subjects for a Bachelor degree, 20 subjects for a Master degree, and 30 subjects for a Doctor degree.
- For example, if you are enrolled in a Bachelor of Business degree, then it typically consists of 40 subjects spread out over 4 years. 40 x $880 = $35,200 total cost.
- Accreditation of any kind is 100% Voluntary.It is also a very costly and time consuming process. This cost must be passed on to the student and either covered out of pocket or through student loans. It is up to the student to determine if a certain type of accreditation is appropriate for their situation. If your goals require a particular type, then you would want to enroll in a university that is accredited by the type that your goal requires.
- Choosing a university is a major life decision. It should be taken very seriously. Carefully weigh your options and budget against your education and career goals.
- This is taken from their website.
- Harris is a Private, Niche University that is not for everyone and every situation.
- Good luck in all your future goals. 2603:6011:2000:D300:7D50:87BA:D8CD:A0EE (talk) 10:53, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
Not done Please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. And your last link points to a different, accredited public institution. jfeise (talk) 20:15, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- Sure thing. I hope the information below is enough for the suggested change to be made, adding "Harris University" to the list of unaccredited institutions of higher education.
- 1. “Not accredited by any board and it cannot be found on any university database or ranking”.
- -“Harris University” is simply not accredited by the U.S. Department of Education. The United States being the country in which it allegedly functions in.
- https://ope.ed.gov/dapip/#/search-results . The US' official website shows “Harris University” is not accredited in the US.
- -Also, “Harris University” does not show up when using any university database, whether based on the US, or globally.
- For instance https://www.4icu.org/us/a-z/ lists over 1,750 US universities, and it is not on the list.
- 2. “It does not have a .edu domain”.
- -Please note that that alleged university’s domain is not “.edu”, but rather it’s “.us”. It tries to trick people into believing it’s a .edu domain by having a clever name that ends in -edu.us.
- https://www.harris-university-edu.us/
- -Also, Wikipedia’s own terms state that having a .edu domain is a way to tell if a postsecondary US institution is legit. On that note, “Eligibility. Since October 29, 2001, only postsecondary institutions and organizations that are institutionally accredited by an agency on the U.S. Department of Education's list of nationally recognized accrediting agencies are eligible to apply for an edu domain To be eligible, an institution must be located in the U.S., legally organized in the U.S., or recognized by a U.S. state, territorial, or federal agency.”
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.edu
- 3. “It claims to have existed since the 1962 yet only has a website since 2013”
- -This is indeed the case. According to who.is, the website was only registered on June 20, 2013. And as stated, its website verbatim claims that the university has existed since 1962. Which is dubious.
- https://who.is/whois/harris-university-edu.us
- https://www.harris-university-edu.us/about-us/
- 4. “It claims to have been accredited by an organization that actually does not exist ("IAAS").”
- -As stated on the previous link, this fake university states that it is accredited by an institution called IAAS, the “International Association of Accredited on line Schools and Institutions”. And a quick Google search shows that such institution never existed. It was made up by Harris.
- https://web.archive.org/web/20131129123422/http://harris-university-edu.us/about_us.html
- https://www.google.com/search?q=IAAS+international+Association+of+Accredited+on+line+Schools+and+Institutions&hl=en&sxsrf=APwXEdfBOgEeAlxJdYumUA7QoAUdBnmIHQ%3A1686273362145&source=hp&ei=Un2CZKvqBrvd5OUP6PCxqAI&iflsig=AOEireoAAAAAZIKLYpB1UoS6veEFqnvun7c9-rWBNt3d&ved=0ahUKEwir2_jlgbX_AhW7LrkGHWh4DCUQ4dUDCAk&uact=5&oq=IAAS+international+Association+of+Accredited+on+line+Schools+and+Institutions&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EANQAFgAYABoAHAAeACAAQCIAQCSAQCYAQCgAQKgAQE&sclient=gws-wiz
- 5. “Its published location leads to warehouses in the middle of nowhere according to Google Maps”
- -This is indeed the case, as stated. Please take a look at the provided Google Maps link, that shows street view of the address stated on the fake university’s website, and you will see it is a warehouse and not a university.
- The address stated on its website is: “Harris University main office is in 1903 60th Place E. #M5311, Bradenton, Florida.”
- https://web.archive.org/web/20131129123422/http://harris-university-edu.us/about_us.html
- https://www.google.cl/maps/@27.4341212,-82.5404279,3a,90y,1.1h,91.14t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s-pAfnrT2Tf0so3ektVQXjw!2e0!5s20071201T000000!7i3328!8i1664?entry=ttu
- 6. “None of the mentioned people have any sort of online presence (including its founder and dean)”.
- -This is easy to check as well. Its website states that its Founder is Mr. “Dr. Edgar William Henry Hine, a British MD born in London, UK.”. And then a quick Google Search shows no information whatsoever of that person ever existing. And not to mention that his name does not show up in the UK’s medical doctors list.
- https://www.harris-university-edu.us/about-us/
- https://www.google.com/search?q=Dr.+Edgar+William+Henry+Hine&oq=Dr.+Edgar+William+Henry+Hine&aqs=chrome..69i57.103j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
- https://www.gmc-uk.org/doctors?page=1&givenNameText=edgar%20william&lastNameText=henry%20hine
- -Also, this fake institution states that it has a President called “Les Toomey”, who also has no online presence whatsoever.
- https://www.harris-university-edu.us/home/staff-faculty/
- https://www.google.com/search?q=Les+Toomey+harris&hl=en&sxsrf=APwXEdfgOtRkN6WQJmIMzYpofdjzN2hAaA%3A1686273955965&ei=o3-CZILMOry65OUPkpmg4A0&ved=0ahUKEwjCqY6BhLX_AhU8HbkGHZIMCNwQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=Les+Toomey+harris&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIECCMQJzoHCCMQsAMQJzoICAAQgAQQsAM6CwgAEIoFEIYDELADSgQIQRgBUKIBWPEGYPEHaAFwAHgAgAE4iAHhApIBATeYAQCgAQHAAQHIAQM&sclient=gws-wiz-serp
- -Overall, “Harris University’s” alleged Founder and President are fake persons
- 7. ”And it offers degrees for just $820”
- -This is indeed the case as well. Please take a look at the linked website below, as it expressly states that it offers undergraduate degrees for just $820, and master’s and doctorates for $1,020. Such fees are certainly not believable from any US institution, and let alone for undergraduate and doctorate degrees that take many years to be completed.
- https://www.harris-university-edu.us/tuition-fees/
- 8. And about the last link, my mistake. I linked it wrongly. I just wanted to show that when using a website that lists 3,896 colleges in the world, nothing shows up about “Harris University”
- https://www.collegesanddegrees.com/college-profiles
- In sum, "Harris University" is not accredited, and therefore should be added to the list. Though furthermore, the information provided above states that it clearly is a fake institution and that does not impart any sort of class. It is a scam. Thank you in advance. Avenscl (talk) 01:42, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
Not done None of these are reliable sources. You conclude something from your original research and lack of data. What we would need is an article that explicitly says that the institution is not accredited. jfeise (talk) 13:46, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- 820.00 Per credit hour. Not for the entire degree LOL. Please READ before you make a fool of yourself with your research. 2603:6011:2000:D300:7D50:87BA:D8CD:A0EE (talk) 10:41, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- I am not sure how you figure 820.00 per subject x 40 subjects still equal 820.00 for an entire Bachelor's degree.
- According to my calculations 820.00 x 40 = 32,800.00 Please correct me if my Math is incorrect.
- No where does it say 820.00 for an entire Bachelor's Degree. If it does, could you point it out to me? 2603:6011:2000:D300:7D50:87BA:D8CD:A0EE (talk) 11:01, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- The very first link explicitly states that it is not accredited. Harris University is not listed on the official database of Accredited Postsecondary Institutions and Programs (DAPIP), made by the U.S. Department of Education
- https://ope.ed.gov/dapip/#/home
- In order to be any reliable, Wikipedia should follow the criteria of the U.S. Department of Education.
- And second and as quoted, the second link and third links explicitly state that Wikipedia's guideline is to not include US institutions that do not have a .edu domain, as since October 2001 only institutions recognized by the US' Department of Education are eligible to apply for that domain.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.edu
- In order to be any reliable, Wikipedia should follow its own guidelines. Avenscl (talk) 22:26, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
Remove hyperlink Stanton University and clarify it is a different Stanton
There are two different Stanton Universitys, and a clarification must be made.
The first Stanton University listed here is referring to a different university in Hawaii by the same name. Here is the link of the legal proceedings:
https://files.hawaii.gov/dcca/ocp/udgi/lawsuits/stanton/stanton_u_sj.pdf
The second Stanton University in California (hyperlinked in this list) has been accredited by WASC in 2021 and has never been a part of the one in Hawaii.
Here is the link that has Stanton University's (CA) accreditation from WASC:
https://www.wscuc.org/institutions/stanton-university/
Please remove the hyperlink on this page to Stanton University (CA) and add clarification this is different from the Stanton in Hawaii. Perhaps changing the name to Stanton University, Inc. (Hawaii). DanceYourPuns (talk) 19:34, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
Done Done. jfeise (talk) 18:54, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
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Addition of: The New Seminary (Brooklyn, NY) The school's website itself does say that it does not seek accreditation. https://www.new-seminary.com/courses-programs/accreditation/ 2600:6C5E:4D7F:7620:6123:635C:FDB2:5AC (talk) 19:05, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. I understand that you have the sources website, but this in and of itself does not establish notability. I'd prefer to see a third party source that comments on it, as most (if not all) of the current entries have. Bestagon ⬡ 00:44, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
Link to incorrect page
The link for Woodfield University currently leads to a Pakistani software company. I am not a wiki editor so I do not know how to edit things properly but wanted to flag it for someone who knows what they are doing to fix it.
- Woodfield University (also operates the illicit Woodfield High School), South Carolina
is the line- leads to Axact instead. 142.110.3.37 (talk) 16:28, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Much of this list article appears to violate WP:NOTDIR
Stand-alone list articles like this one are often limited to notable entries (i.e., those that have - or should have - a Wikipedia article). As currently written, this article appears to violate WP:NOTDIR. If there are no objections, I propose removing all of the entries that are not about institutions that have a Wikipedia article. ElKevbo (talk) 00:18, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- I have looked at the list and I agree with you. --Bduke (talk) 00:59, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- I'd support removing uncited entries. But for the cited ones, I'd be hesitant to remove them in bulk, since the citations might indicate notability even without the presence of a page, particularly for institutions outside the Anglophile world.
- Overall, this seems like a valid topic for a list article, but I would encourage reorganization to list institutions by country, as alphabetically isn't particularly useful. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 03:23, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- Might be slightly difficult given how many of them operate in multiple countries. NM 17:10, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- For those, I'd use the country in which they're headquartered. Even if imperfect, a country-based listing would at least provide some sort of semantic grouping, whereas an alphabetic grouping doesn't communicate anything of significance. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 17:41, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- Might be slightly difficult given how many of them operate in multiple countries. NM 17:10, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
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chnage this text : Andersen University, California[1][2] (not to be confused with legitimate institutions named Anderson University)
- Andersonville Theological Seminary (formerly Andersonville Baptist Seminary);[3] overseen by the unaccredited Transworld Accrediting Commission International[4]. into the following text : " Andersen university, california is a. non accredited university, but there is no prove that it is a mill degree. it offers non accredited programs on line "
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- Not done: We don't make that claim that it is a degree mill. Meters (talk) 20:07, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- And your request is very unclear. We already have entries for both Andersen University, and Andersonville Theological Seminary. Why would we delete the Andersonville Theological Seminary entry? It still exists. Meters (talk) 20:12, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- And it is still unaccredited by Wikipedia standards. I will update the refs. Meters (talk) 20:26, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- And your request is very unclear. We already have entries for both Andersen University, and Andersonville Theological Seminary. Why would we delete the Andersonville Theological Seminary entry? It still exists. Meters (talk) 20:12, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
Please add
Could you please add Wilmington University Metropolitan ? https://wilmingtonmu.edu.eu/
By it's own admission it is not accredited. This wikipedia page is for unaccredited which it confirms it is. See https://wilmingtonmu.edu.eu/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Verification-of-Exemption-Letter-94874b1-Rev.-Nov.-2021-2.png
This "university" misrepresents itself. It uses the US California gov dept for the above exemption, but its operating from Malaysia. The exemption is (per the letter in the link above) for study SOLELY for the association (edu assist is the association setup for this purpose). Meaning that it is not for qualifications for external use but it's being presented that way.
Bottom line is it's not accredited and for that reason alone should be in this list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.141.64.87 (talk) 03:22, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
== SELINUS UNIVERSITY has been granted Institutional Accreditation by USHEAC ==
This university needs to be removed from unaccredited list. Reference : Accrediting body membership page (search: SELINUS UNIVERSITY) https://www.usheac.org/non-profit-higher-education-organization-membership — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.21.255.142 (talk) 04:33, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Categorization by Country
This list is pretty useless in its current form. It would be better to have this article be organized as several lists, separated by country (since accreditation is generally national). 2601:184:407F:C720:B896:4EC:F38D:55FA (talk) 12:25, 24 April 2024 (UTC)