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November 2020

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December 2020

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Venkatesh Gattem. Why are you going too fast in adding Speedy deletion templates without going through the regulations? Seen a multiple requests submitted by you were reverted in hours, its just creating a panic and loss of time for other experienced editors. I suggest you to go through the Speedy deletion regulations and requirements. Deleting unnecessary articles is a great job on Wikipedia, but its not a playful thing to do. iMahesh (talk) 10:47, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

iMahesh Your message appears to be WP:BULLY. Calm down. Merely nominating for speedy deletions do not construde disruptions. You may not like the action, however, anyone intend to contribute to the Wikipedia to improve it must be prepared to have their work scrutinized, analyzed, and criticised. Assuming moral high ground is not the right approach rather than refuting objectively. You are of course well within your rights to report violations/violators.RationalPuff (talk) 12:06, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

@RationalPuff: Thanks for reply, it confirms your attention towards the talk-page and I don’t think NOMINATING RANDOM ARTICLES for CSD is a common task on Wikipedia. CSDs are controversial in some cases. I can see all CSD tags added by you were removed by other editors. Please go through the criteria of speedy deletion. As I said removing unnecessary pages on Wikipedia is a good job, but nominating random pages isn’t. Its just random act to nominate pages for CSD and later for PRODs and AFDs. Please go through WP:FIELD for learning more about Deletion requests; when and where to place them. And the above message wasn’t only concentric towards article I’ve mentioned, I went through all your contributions to place the appropriate template. By the way, Iam amazed for your knowledge on WP policies in such a short number of edits in workspace despite being a Wikipedian for many years. —iMahesh (talk) 18:11, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. iMahesh (talk) 16:23, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Closing Note: Article Venkatesh Gattem the user above was propogating eventually deleted via AFD. RationalPuff (talk) 10:57, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Recent edit reversion

In this edit here, I reverted some information that appears to be a violation of our copyright policy.

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Chianki Airstrip

Hi there, I noticed you reverted my edit on the article (which was a minor text change and a regional language source) as "non contextual". Would you mind explaining how that is "non contextual" to warrant a revert? The article is clearly under sourced and is only afloat because of WP:GEOLAND, and the source which states "medium sized planes" is not entirely reliable either. Thanks! Bingobro (Chat) 07:06, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. The source you have included and changes you made to say airstrip will be "extended for operation" didn't agree. The airstrip in it's current state already operational. The source already in the article has mention of the plans for "medium sized planes". Your source may have some relevance. Please feel free to add that back in if you can capture the content of it. Agree WP:GEOLAND kept it alive. The article originally touted it as an airport. RationalPuff (talk) 08:31, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

I doubt the airstrip is operational (even for GA aircraft), the source I found states that the strip has no infrastructure and is used for recreation and cattle grazing, the few photos available online are mostly of people randomly roaming around the airstrip and satellite imagery show the airstrip to be in a rundown state (there's no perimeter, runway is unmarked and has vehicle tire tracks all over it). Bingobro (Chat) 06:50, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

It is not a Civil Aviation asset and not meant for operation of commercial flights. It's nothing more than small patch of paved area in use only by choppers/GA on-demand. But the the main point is, you would need a "source" for citing anything beyond what is currently known. RationalPuff (talk) 11:24, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abdullah Khan (author)

I closed this as soft-delete, but an editor asked for it to be undeleted which I am compelled to do per the policy.

Up to you if you renominate it.

Cheers, Daniel (talk) 00:47, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Rethink

RationalPuff I do not know the reason for your nomination to delete Sanaa AlSarghali article, as she is the first Palestinian woman to obtain a doctorate in constitutional law, and she represents a large segment of Palestinian women and Arab society, and she is the first woman to participate in the editing of the Palestinian constitution, and she is the most prominent Palestinian researcher, and she is the first founder A center for constitutional studies, the first of its kind in the Arab world--Osps7 (talk) 17:27, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Slow down

Listen, I am no fan of the way our A7's are handled or worded but the last two you've tagged very much don't meet the low bar for A7 and there are several more in your recent edits that are incorrect as well. I'd encourage you to re-read the speedy criteria before continuing to tag. CUPIDICAE💕 17:52, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Praxidicae: On a learning curve here. Agree, A7 may not be strong enough but I do think nobility criteria for these articles are weak, may be AfD is more appropriate than CSD. Thanks for pointing out. RationalPuff (talk) 13:23, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

It appears my comment didn't really sink in. I suggest staying away from speedies for a bit. this is absolutely not an A1, even in it's initial edit and this isn't g2 or g3 CUPIDICAE💕 19:22, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Tagging pages for deletion

Hello, RationalPuff,

Just a reminder that whenever you tag a page for deletion (CSD, PROD or AFD/CFD/TFD/etc.), you should post a notice on the talk page of the page creator. If you use Twinkle, the program will automatically post a talk page notice for you once you set up your Preferences which makes things easy. Thank you! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:40, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

@Liz: Thought always do as I tag using Twinkle unless something went wrong. Did you spot any where notifications were not posted? RationalPuff (talk) 22:07, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Notability

Hi @RationalPuff:, I was pretty much in the same situation when I was early into new page patrol. I too started nominating too many pages, and was eventually the subject of a administration board discussion. The Advice I got was that CSDs are usually reserved for articles that have zero hint of any notability. If you have even a single claim of notability, it might be better to not CSD it. There are other routes the article can take

• Draftify - If the subject is notable but article is written bad, this is the way to go.
• PROD - you can mention your concern, it will last for 2 weeks on the page. Then if there is no action taken on it, a single admin will make the final decision.
• AfD - A proper debate, I guess you are already aware of it.
• CSD

Try not to be biased when nominating things, say for example , If Biswaroop Roy Choudhary's article is created. Don't CSD it. It deserves a debate, even If you think an article about him would not benefit the world. Daiyusha (talk) 05:26, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

@Daiyusha:(talk page stalker) I don't think this advice is quite right - for example, an article can be speedy deleted per WP:G12 and still talk about a notable topic. A better way of looking at it is - can any neutral editor fix this article? For example, the archetypical A7 example I give is "Timmy is my pet cat. He has nice black and white stripes and enjoys catching mice". User:Ritchie333/Plain and simple guide to A7 has further information. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:00, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

AfD:- Dr. Hemant Sonare

Hello, RationalPuff recently my article Dr. Hemant Sonare is nominated for deletion. could you please undo deleted article so I will improve it and as beginner I need some help in how should I will correctes my mistakes.(Thank You)--AmanMsonare (talk) 17:23, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

@AmanMsonare: From what I remember you have to rewrite it completely ensuring it meets the Wikipedia WP:N and WP:RS criteria. If not, it will be deleted again. Please remember repeatedly creating articles that do not meet these criteria will be permanently salted. Also be aware of WP:COI if you are creating articles about yourself, family, friends and other relationships, which is generally not permitted unless you disclose it appropriately. RationalPuff (talk) 17:38, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Bit of advice

I've noticed you getting uppity and cross over some trolls and vandals. Please don't do that. At best it doesn't do at anything; at worst it means the whole point of these editors - attention seeking - is working and they are getting through to you. Do not insult the vandals. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:54, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Surya Mathur

Please review WP:G6. That page did not meet those criteria. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:59, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

SPI

When reporting socks, please note, the oldest named account is considered the master. Thanks, Cabayi (talk) 19:04, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

M. Ravi IPS Page deletion

You have been bent on getting Mr. Ravi IPS's page deleted. You have belittled all his achievements. You also mentioned the award seems to be awarded at least in part merely for long routine service. Then why do we have a wikipedia page for the award alone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President%27s_Police_Medal - This award page that we are talking about interestingly has Mr. Ravi's name mentioned under the state of Tamilnadu.

Citations - Articles and news have mentioned him as the ADGP and not Ravi.

A.Abraham.A (talk) 10:47, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

@A.Abraham.A: Merely receiving awards doesn't warrant an independent Wikipedia page. Job related awards are generally considered run-of-the-mill. Wikipedia:RUNOFTHEMILL. Please familiarise with the nobility guidelines WP:NBIO and how you support claims in the article WP:RS. Also it's important to understand what Wikipedia is not for WP:NOT WP:NOTLINKEDIN. Your article didn't meet any of these criteria was the reason for deletion. Hope this helps. RationalPuff (talk) 12:33, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Afd:Cheman Shaik

Hi User:RationalPuff I need your attention to the below discussion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Cheman_Shaik

• I have provided more secondary citations as evidence for WP:GNG, importance of the invention, authenticity of the invention in the discussion.
• Improved the article.Wisdomwiki 40 (talk) 14:20, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

doesn't yet meet RS, unfortunately. There are already usful comments from the other editors on the AfD page. Do you have CoI with the subject? If you do, you must disclose it appropriately.k RationalPuff (talk) 09:53, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Prashant Gade

Hello, RationalPuff. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Prashant Gade, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Draft space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for article space.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion under CSD G13. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it. You may request userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 23:01, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

List of unaccredited institutions of higher education

Hi User:RationalPuff, your edit to List of unaccredited institutions of higher education has been reverted because it lacked reliable sources. Please familiarize yourself with WP:RS. Thank you. jfeise (talk) 19:38, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

In this edit, you look like you're not just citing Wikipedia, YOU'RE CITING THE ARTICLE YOU'RE PUTTING THE CITATION INTO. That is as circular as you can get, and a hard, hard "no" for that edit. Or am I missing something? --Calton | Talk 09:45, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

@Calton: It was just a copy/paste error. Corrected now. Thanks for spotting, however could have been corrected from the target article where there are whole bunch of valid references. Thanks. RationalPuff (talk) 10:41, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Nope. Not my job nor anyone else's job. Your job. Something you should have done from the very beginning. It's YOUR responsibility to justify additions to Wikipedia. --Calton | Talk 14:30, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

I also note that you blindly reverted the deletion of an obviously bad edit, THEN fixed it. Knee-jerk reverting without bothering to check what you're doing is a bad habit to get into. --Calton | Talk 14:34, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

::@Calton: It wasn't a knee-jerk. I just thought it's easier to revert and edit the link. Of course there are different ways to skin a cat. You may not have thought it was your 'job', I would have however would fix any errors like that if I spot any. Thanks for your contributions anyway. RationalPuff (talk) 16:47, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Prashant Gade

Hello, RationalPuff. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Prashant Gade".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:43, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

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