Talk:List of works by Joseph Priestley

Incomplete list

This list is not complete. I will finish it up in a few days. Awadewit 08:49, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

The list is complete (at least according to Schofield). There are some oddities regarding the Theological Repository. I will check those out when I get the time. Awadewit ^Talk 21:59, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I am reorganizing the list and making it more complete using Crook's bibliography. This will take a few days. Awadewit | talk 23:28, 26 June 2007 (UTC) Hello, I made something called a pulser pump (a trompe providing the power for an airlift pump). I have video's on youtube about it. A fan of Priestley history commented on the video and suggested that Joseph Priestley actually invented the pulser pump and used it on some farm or property he owned to pump water. I think he saw reference to this in a university in the USA 20 or 30 years ago.

This is very interesting because Priestley was ill in the last years of his life. If he actually did this, (and did it early enough) it might have been before the official invention of the airlift pump! Airlift pump was invented in Germany a few years before Priestley died. So there is the question, Did Priestly also invent the airlift pump and pulser pump? Gaiatechnician (talk) 19:11, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

May I make the following suggestions:

The entry: ‘ A Political Dialogue on the General Principles of Government. London: n.p., 1791. [Schofield questions the attribution of this to Priestley] ’, “n.p.” (‘no place of publication’) should be replaced, by the entry: ‘ A Political Dialogue on the General Principles of Government. London: Printed for Joseph Johnson, 1791. [Schofield questions the attribution of this to Priestley] ’ (The ‘for Joseph Johnson’ indicates that Johnson is the publisher. Priestley’s authorship is suggested by the comment on page 1, referring to ‘a tract published twenty-two years ago’ in 1769. Schofield is a significant authority, and it is correct to note his doubt of the authorship, though others have no such doubt.)

The entry: ‘ The Importance of Religion to Enlarge the Mind of Man; Considered and Illustrated in a Sermon. Birmingham: Printed and sold by J. Belcher & Son, 1808. ’, should be deleted since it is merely a reprint of an extract from ‘ Sermons selected from Dr. Priestley’s Discourses on the evidences of revelation [London?], n.p., 1799.’, which is itself an extract from ‘ Discourses on the Evidences of Revealed Religion. London: Printed for J. Johnson, 1794.’

However, the following posthumous publication should be inserted: ‘ The Leeds Infirmary: a sermon [on Lk 10: 30-35] by Joseph Priestley, first preached at Mill Hill Chapel in the year 1768, and for the second time in 1910 by Charles Hargrove on Hospital Sunday 1910. Leeds, Richard Jackson, 1910.’ This is printed here for the first time, from the original manuscript in Priestley's holograph. Katbun (talk) 10:05, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

"Edited works"

We read:

Edited works

This list of Priestley's edited works. . . .

I took the title to mean others' editions of Priestley's works, cf John Dover Wilson's editions of Shakespeare's works. I then realized that Priestley was the editor, not the editee. How about "works edited by Priestley"? -- Hoary 10:44, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I had originally tried to make all of the section title parallel. I have now changed it to "works edited by Priestley". Awadewit | talk 12:13, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Good. -- Hoary 14:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Parts and volumes

We read for example:

• —. "Dr. Priestley's Reply to his Antiphlogistian Opponents, No. 1." New York Medical Repository 3 (1800): 116-21.
• —. "Dr. Priestley's Reply to his Antiphlogistian Opponents, No. 2." New York Medical Repository 3 (1800): 121-24.
• —. "Dr. Priestley's Reply to his Antiphlogistian Opponents, No. 3." New York Medical Repository 3 (1800): 124-27.

I think that

• —. "Dr. Priestley's Reply to his Antiphlogistian Opponents." New York Medical Repository 3 (1800). No. 1, 116-21; no. 2, 121-24; no. 3, 124-27.

or something like it would be neater and would lose nothing in precision or helpfulness. Similar simplifications could be made for the volumes of a multivolume work. -- Hoary 10:50, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Personally, I find that much harder to read. Awadewit | talk 12:14, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, you and I have remarkably different preferences. -- Hoary 14:50, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Indeed we do, but that is all they are - preferences. We should not them get in the way of agreeing on larger principles. Awadewit | talk 15:14, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Modern editions and reprints

I've just taken a look in the OPAC of a good library that I know (alas not one to which I have very simple access, though I can go there if I have good reason to). It has over forty books that are catalogued (or, imaginably, miscatalogued) as being by, partly by, or edited by, Priestley. Here's just the first screenful of ten items (with idiosyncratic OPAC punctuation intact):

• Letters to Burke, 1791 / Joseph Priestley --Poole : Woodstock Books , 1997 --(Revolution and romanticism, 1789-1834 )
• Miscellaneous observations relating to education / Joseph Priestley ; introduced by Jeffrey Stern --Bristol : Thoemmes ; Taipei : Unifacmanu Trading Company , 1995 --(Classics in education series ; 55 )
• Political writings / Joseph Priestley ; edited by Peter N. Miller --Cambridge ; New York : Cambridge University Press , 1993 --(Cambridge texts in the history of political thought )
• A course of lectures on the theory of language and universal grammar / Joseph Priestley ; with a new introduction by Roy Harris --London : Routledge/Thoemmes ; Tokyo : Kinokuniya , 1993 --(History of linguistics . British linguistics in the eighteenth century )
• An essay on a course of liberal education for civil and active life / Joseph Priestley --London : Routledge/Thoemmes Press ; Tokyo : Kinokuniya , 1992 --(History of British educational theory 1750-1850 )
• A farewell sermon : letters to the members of the New Jerusalem Church 1791, and The present state of Europe compared with antient prophecies; a sermon preached at the gravel pit meeting in Hackney, 1794 / Joseph Priestley --Oxford : Woodstock Books , 1989 --(Revolution and romanticism, 1789-1834 )
• Letters to a philosophical unbeliever, part I / Joseph Priestley --New York : Garland Pub. , 1983 --(The Philosophy of David Hume )
• A free discussion of the doctrines of materialism and philosophical necessity in correspondence with Joseph Priestley, 1778 / Richard Price --New York : Garland Pub. , 1978 --(British philosophers and theologians of the 17th & 18th centuries )
• An examination, 1774 / Joseph Priestley --New York : Garland Pub. , 1978 --(British philosophers and theologians of the 17th & 18th centuries )
• Disquisitions relating to matter and spirit and The doctrine of philosophical necessity illustrated, 1777 / Joseph Priestley --New York : Garland Pub. , 1976 --(British philosophers and theologians of the 17th & 18th centuries )

They're all new. And unless I've missed something, all of this information is new to the list/article. I imagine that the ten include facsimile editions and reset but otherwise unaltered editions, but wonder if they also include some editions that incorporate substantial corrections, restitutions, etc. I think such information would be very useful for anyone researching Priestley, or indeed anyone merely wishing to read his works. I don't expect that any editor here will leap up, go to a first-rate library, look in every one of these and more recent reprints/editions and edit the list/article accordingly. But I think that this would be a healthy direction to head for. -- Hoary 11:25, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

• No bibliographical researcher has yet assembled a list of all of the reprints of Priestley's works. This is essentially a random list of the reprints that this particular database has. Including it would be original research and would make the list even more incomplete than it is. Besides, who would decide what counts as a modern reprint? I have chosen to stick to first editions because that is one common type of bibliography and that was the information available to me. Awadewit | talk 12:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

It may indeed be a good idea to keep to first editions; but if so, it could be argued that the article title is a bit misleading. The question of who would decide what counts as a modern reprint is a reasonable one. It might be problematic but I doubt that the problems would be insuperable. Information on new editions of Priestley's works is available to any of us with access to the internet or good libraries. I am amazed to read that including works gathered in ways such as this -- of course not only the arbitrarily chosen first ten that pop up in the OPAC of an arbitrarily chosen library -- would constitute "original research" in the odd sense in which this phrase is used in WP. I've skimread WP:OR and don't see this kind of thing mentioned there. If it is indeed "original research", then a number of lists of works I've created are also heavily dependent on "original research"; nobody has yet complained, but maybe they will. If they do, if the ban on "original research" rules out any kind of intelligent, original (but non-POV-pushing) use the of library, then the prospect of editing WP becomes hugely less interesting to me. But perhaps that's just me. -- Hoary 15:03, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I would like to keep the article title as is - hopefully someday a scholar will do the rest of the work and we can then add it to this article. There is no doubt in my mind that collecting citations and posting them as a list is original research; since scholars publish books that are only bibliographies (such as the Crook I used for this page) and get tenure credit for such work (it is field called bibliographical research), I do not believe that our random attempts to create lists should be put on par with those. I would never create a list of works without first having a scholarly bibliography. It is true that WP:OR is hugely restrictive (in fact, I don't think most people understand just how restrictive it is), but it does not mean that we cannot use the library. I don't see that at all. To me it just means that you cannot say anything that hasn't been said before. If a list of works hasn't been collected, that is new work. It may be useful, but it is still new. Awadewit | talk 15:13, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

But the existence of every one of the books that I listed, and of others besides, is something that has been said before. The library that I happened to use was has an OPAC with a Japanese-language interface, but I'm pretty sure you'd find all these books, and more besides, authoritatively listed at Copac or in the Library of Congress catalogue. ¶ If a list of works hasn't been collected, that is new work. Yes, in a very humdrum way. Is it original research? Not by my understanding of WP:OR (let alone the normal definition of the term). And I don't think anybody gets tenure for publishing a bibliography that says no more than what's already made clear in OPACs. -- Hoary 16:15, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, people do get tenure for this work, because tracking down every edition of every work that someone wrote is actually incredibly time-consuming and difficult. There are even books written on how to produce a useful scholarly bibliography (there are many different ways). Good bibliographies are not just lists of works that someone found - they track changes in editions, they include descriptions of the book (size, binding, etc.), they compare translations with the original. I could go on and on. Awadewit | talk 16:52, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, yes, people do (or at least may) get tenure for creating bibliographies that embody plenty of original research, in both the normal and the WP sense of that term. But I haven't proposed that and haven't considered doing so. I've not suggested that this article/list should be a "good bibliography" in your stringent sense. ¶ It is not WP:OR to announce the existence of, say, A Course of Lectures on the Theory of Language and Universal Grammar, as published in London by Routledge/Thoemmes and in Tokyo by Kinokuniya in 1993, within the series "British linguistics in the eighteenth century" (itself a subseries of "History of linguistics"), with a new introduction by Roy Harris. My own immediate authority for this assertion happens to be Keio University Library, but either of us, or anybody else, could find the same information at Copac. Neither would it be WP:OR for some editor eventually to take a look at a copy of this edition to see if it is a facsimile (and if so of what, and if not whether it has a prefatory note about any editorial work on the text), and to summarize the findings. (An example of WP:OR would be if some fanatical editor were to embark on an original comparison of an old edition -- or more likely a facsimile thereof -- with a new edition, looking for textual differences.) -- Hoary 23:24, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I think that it is simply irresponsible to start listing random modern reprints. It would be an arbitrary list and I don't think that such information is all that helpful. Those people who want to read these works have any number of options open to them (databases, microfilm, reprints) - they already know that. I don't feel that this page would be enhanced by a list of the modern editions that my library happens to own. Awadewit | talk 12:54, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I hadn't thought of adding editions that happened to be held by a single library, thus my mention of Copac. So there'd be no randomness or arbitrariness. -- Hoary 14:14, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I might be willing to cede your point if there were a database that included every text ever published from the eighteenth century to the present, but there isn't, so any work would have to be a long arduous process of compilation from many databases and even that would not assure that every later edition was caught. Many rare books and manuscript libraries have not catalogued their works electronically yet. Also, I still feel that this work is best done by scholars with training in bibliographical research. Attempting to determine if a work is really a new edition or not is surprisingly difficult. I would not be able to do that simply by looking at an electronic record. This list, with its first English edition focus, reflects the published and therefore the reliable bibliographies that exist for Priestley. I am comfortable with relying on that work but uncomfortable with embarking on a crusade to myself track down every later reprinting (that is a huge project and one that I should get published credit for, if I were to do it). Including only a smattering of reprints would not be beneficial to anyone. Awadewit | talk 20:45, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Google Books URLs to some Priestley works

Priestley, Joseph. 1771. An essay on the first principles of government,: and on the nature of political, civil, and religious liberty, including remarks on Dr. Brown's Code of education, and on Dr. Balguy's Sermon on church authority. The second edition, corrected and enlarged, by Joseph Priestley. London: printed for J. Johnson.

• Google Books Link - 7.9mb

Priestley, Joseph. 1771. The rudiments of English grammar. London: printed for J. and F. Rivington; T. Lowndes; S. Crowder; T. Becket and Co., and J. Johnson.

• Google Books Link - 7.3mb

Priestley, Joseph. 1777. A course of lectures on oratory and criticism. London: J. Johnson.

• Google Books Link - 12.9mb

Priestley, Joseph. 1782. Institutes of natural and revealed religion: to which is prefixed, an essay on the best method of communicating religious knowledge to the members of Christian societies. Birmingham: Printed by Pearson for Johnson.

• Volume I - 10.3mb
• Volume II - 12.1mb

Priestley, Joseph, and Joseph Priestley. 1782. Disquisitions relating to matter and spirit: to which is added the history of the philosophical doctrine concerning the origin of the soul, and the nature of matter ; with its influence on Christianity, especially with respect to the doctrine of the pre-existence of Christ. Birmingham: Printed by Pearson and Rollason, for J. Johnson, London.

• Volume I - 18.9mb
• Volume II - 10.6mb

Priestley, Joseph. 1786. A description of A new chart of history. London: printed for J. Johnson.

• Google Books Links 5.6mb

Priestley, Joseph. 1786. An history of early opinions concerning Jesus Christ, compiled from original writers, proving that the Chriatian Church was at first Unitarian. Birmingham: printed for the author by Pearson and Rollason, and sold by J. Johnson, London.

• Volume I - 12.1mb
• Volume II - 14.6mb
• Volume III - 13.3mb
• Volume IV - 12.3mb

Priestley, Joseph. 1791. Letters to the Right Honourable Edmund Burke: occasioned by his Reflections on the revolution in France, &c. Birmingham: Printed by Thomas Pearson, and sold by J. Johnson, London.

• Google Books Link - 6.8mb

Priestley, Joseph. 1803. A general history of the Christian church: to the fall of the western empire. Northumberland: Printed for the author, by Andrew Kennedy.

• Volume I -20.2mb
• Volume II - 20.6mb

Priestley, Joseph. 1803. A general history of the Christian church from the fall of the western empire to the present time. Northumberland [Pa.]: Printed for the author, by Andrew Kennedy.

• Volume I - 20.9mb
• Volume II - 20.4mb
• Volume III - 18.8mb
• Volume IV - 17.4mb

Priestley, Joseph. 1803. Lectures on history, and general policy; to which is prefixed, an Essay on a course of liberal education for civil and active life. And an additional lecture on the Constitution of the United States. Philadelphia: Printed for P. Byrne.

• Volume I - 13.3mb
• Volume II - 14.8mb

Priestley, Joseph, and Andrew Kennedy. 1803. Notes on all the books of scripture: for the use of the pulpit and private families. Northumberland: Printed for the author, by Andrew Kennedy.

• Volume I - 23.7mb
• Volume II - 23.3mb
• Volume III - 26.2
• Volume IV - 24.9mb

Priestley, Joseph. 1804. The doctrines of heathen philosophy: compared with those of revelation. Northumberland: Printed by John Binns.

• Google Books Link - 10.5mb

Priestley, Joseph, and John Towill Rutt. 1826. The theological and miscellaneous works of Joseph Priestley. London: Printed By Richard Taylor, Shoe-Lane.

• Google Books Link - 24.3

Priestley, Joseph. 1827. An appeal to the serious and candid professors of Christianity: on the following topics, viz., I. The use of reason in matters of religion. II. The power of man to do the will of God. III. Original sin. IV. Election and reprobation. V. The dignity of Christ. VI. Atonement for sin by the death of Christ. VII. A concise history of the rise of those doctrines. London: R. Taylor.

• Google Books Link - 14.7mb

Priestley, Joseph. 1871. A history of the corruptions of Christianity. London: British and Foreign Unitarian Association.

• Google Books Link - 24.4mb

Priestley, Joseph, and Henry Carrington Bolton. 1892. Scientific correspondence of Joseph Priestley. Ninety-seven letters addressed to Josiah Wedgwood, Sir Joseph Banks, Capt. James Keir, James Watt, Dr. William Withering, Dr. Benjamin Rush, and others. Together with an appendix: I. The likenesses of Priestley in oil, ink, marble, and metal. II. The Lunar society of Birmingham. III. Inventory of Priestley's laboratory in 1791. New York: Privately printed [Philadelphia, Collins printing House].

• Google Books Link - 5.6mb

76.0.225.57 (talk) 23:13, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Corrections to the official list

In the official list of Priestleys scientific works, the publication "Experiments and Observations on Different Kinds of Air, Vol.1" has been dated to 1772. After having searched for this volume in its original edition, it however turned out the publication year instead should be noted as Feb.1774. At least this is attested by the preface of the publication: http://www.archive.org/details/experimentsobser01prie

In the preface of vol.1, it has been noted by Priestley that one of his reasons to publish a seperate book on his experiments on Airs, was that several people had requested this, so that they didnt had to buy several editions of the big journal, where he previously had reported his first results. The first article he published in the journal about experiments and obeservations on Airs is rightfully attested to 1772. But just by checking the number of written pages, it is evident that his vol.1 book from 1774 is not just a copy of that article, but instead a brand new enlarged publication (also containing his latest findings since 1772).

So today I have corrected the year from 1772 to 1774 for Vol.1 in the wiki list. Just for notice, I also checked the publication year for Vol.2-6 of "Experiments and Observations on Different Kinds of Air", but found no mistakes reported for them. :-)

Danish Expert (talk) 13:41, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Search for new links at Google Books, to find and list all online works in full-text

This morning I searched Google Books for additional online full-text books. I started to search for all books of Joseph Priestley published in the time frame 1790-2010, and found around 30 new full-text books. These 30 new online publications will now be added with a proper link in the wiki-list.

Next task for me, will be also to search for available online publications for the time frame 1760-1790.

As the list of available Google Books grow a lot every year, it will be great if some of you can repeat this overall search: one time every year.

The purpose of this new chapter in the Talk Page, is so we can all keep track on: When the last overall search was made, and how many new results it generated.

Danish Expert (talk) 08:10, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

All search results of the “full-view” Google Books written by Joseph Priestley and published in 1760-2010:

Below you have the complete “full view” online search results with Joseph Priestley as author, made at Google Books per 2010-04-30. The search resulted in a total of 136 hits, which in the list below are sorted in chronological order according to “publish year”. A link for all the listed documents can soon also be found in the wiki-list, except for the unrelated/duplicated documents that are marked with a ¤. The purpose of uploading the entire search results here at the talk page, is to provide a quick working list that easily can be refered to, for the next person who wishes sometime in the future, to search and update the wiki-list with some new “full view” documents from Google Books.

As a final note, you should be aware that when searching at Google Books the best method is to search for one year at a time. If you search for the time frame 1761-2010, then Google will wrongly omit around 50% of the publications, as it believe they are exact duplicates of the original document (which in most cases is a wrong presumption). So if you want to execute a very precise search to catch all important volumes and editions, I recommend to search for one year at a time. :-)

TEMPOARY MESSAGE: CURRENTLY I AM WORKING TO LOOK THROUGH ALL THE FOLLOWING SEARCH RESULTS. WHEN THE JOB IS DONE (LATER THIS WEEKEND), AND THE WIKI-LIST HAS BEEN UPDATED, THE SEARCH LIST WILL BE UPDATED WITH STARS FOR ALL THE UNRELATED/DUPLICATED DOCUMENTS.

Full view results published in 1760-1769: unrelated/duplicated (¤) = X, added to wiki-list = Y.

1767: The History and present State of Electricity

1769: Considerations on differences of opinion among Christians; with a letter to ... (cowriter, Henry Venn)

Full view results published in 1770-1774: unrelated/duplicated (¤) = X, added to wiki-list = Y.

1770: A familiar introduction to the theory and practice of perspective (132 pages)

1770: Additions to the address to Protestant dissenters, on the subject of the ... (59 pages)

1770: Description of a New Chart of History: containing a View of the principal ...

1771: Histoire de l'électricité (531 pages)

1771: Histoire de l'electricité, Volume 3 (964 pages)

1771: Histoire De L'℗Electricit℗e: Ouvrage enrichi de Figures en Taille-Douce (432 pages, translated by Mathurin-Jacques Brisson)

1772: The rudiments of English grammar

1772: The rudiments of English grammar: adapted to the use of schools (202 pages)

1772: Geschichte der Elektrizität (translated by Johann Georg Krünitz)

1772: Herrn Joseph Priestley ... Geschichte und gegenwärtiger zustand der ... (Geschichte der Elektrizität)

1772: Geschichte und Zustand der Elektricität: nebst Versuchen (Geschichte der Elektrizität, translated by Johann Georg Krünitz)

1774: Auserlesene kleine Werke dreyer Englischer Chimisten H. Priestley, Henry und ... (3 works written by Joseph Priestley, William Henry, Joseph Black)

Full view results published in 1775-1779: unrelated/duplicated (¤) = X, added to wiki-list = Y.

1775: The history and present state of electricity: with original ..., Volume 1 (16 pages)

1775: Experiments and observations on different kinds of air: Vol. II (399 pages)

1775: Hartley's theory of the human mind: on the principle of the association of ... (372 pages, written by David Hartley and Joseph Priestley)

1775: Geschichte und gegenwärtiger Zustand der Optik, vorzüglich in ..., Volume 1 (254 pages, translated by Georg Simon Klügel)

1776: Dr. Joseph Priestley's Geschichte und gegenwärtiger zustand der optik ... (568 pages)

1776: Geschichte und gegenwärtiger Zustand der Optik, vorzüglich in ..., Volume 2 (622 pages, translated by Georg Simon Klügel)

1776: Dr. Joseph Priestleys Mitgliedes der Königl. Grob︣rittanischen Gesellschaft ... (254 pages, translated by Georg Simon Klügel)

1777: A course of lectures on oratory and criticism. By Joseph Priestley (313 pages)

1777: Disquisitions relating to matter and spirit: to which is added, The history ... (356 pages)

1777: The harmony of the Evangelists in Greek: to which are prefixed critical ...

1777: A description of a new chart ... containing a view of the principal ... (228 pages)

1777: Expériences et observations sur différentes espèces d'air, Volume 1

1777: Expériences et observations sur différentes branches de la ..., Volume 2

1778: Miscellaneous observations relating to education: More especially, as it ... (334 pages)

1778: A free discussion of the doctrine of materialism, and philosophical necessity (428 pages, written by Richard Price and Joseph Priestley)

1778: Versuche und Beobachtungen über verschiedene Gattungen der Luft: Aus dem ... (323 pages)

1779: A letter to the Rev. Mr. John Palmer: in defence of the illustrations of ... (98 pages)

1779: The doctrine of divine influence on the human mind: considered, in a sermon ... (33 pages)

1779: Versuche und Beobachtungen über verschiedene Gattungen der Luft: Aus dem ... (394 pages)

Full view results published in 1780-1784: unrelated/duplicated (¤) = X, added to wiki-list = Y.

1780: The theological and miscellaneous works of Joseph Priestley, Volume 25 (collected by John Towill Rutt)

1780: A free address to those who have petitioned for the repeal of the late act ... (24 pages, written by Joseph Priestley and Benjamin Franklin)

1780: A second letter to the Rev. Mr. John Palmer: in defence of the doctrine of ... (52 pages)

1780: A letter to Jacob Bryant, esq: in defence of philosophical necessity (64 pages)

1780: Expériences et observations sur différentes branches de la physique, avec ...

1780: Expériences et observations sur différentes espèces d'air

1780: Versuche und Beobachtungen über verschiedene Gattungen der Luft: Aus dem ... (394 pages)

1780: Versuche und Beobachtungen über verschiedene Theile der Naturlehre nebst ... (387 pages)

1781: A description of a new chart of history

1781: Experiments and observations relating to various branches of ..., Volume 2

1781: A course of lectures on oratory and criticism (374 pages)

1782: The theological and miscellaneous works of Joseph Priestley, Volume 2 (collected by John Towill Rutt)

1782: An history of the corruptions of Christianity, Volume 1

1782: Institutes of natural and revealed religion: To which is prefixed ..., Volume 2

1782: Disquisitions relating to matter and spirit: To which is added the history ...

1782: Versuche und Beobachtungen über verschiedene Theile der Naturlehre: nebst ... (364 pages)

1782: Expériences et observations sur différentes branches de la ..., Volume 1

1783: Letters to Dr. Horsley, in answer to his animadversions on the history of ... (164 pages)

1783: A reply to the animadversions on the History of the corruptions of ... (52 pages)

Full view results published in 1785-1789: unrelated/duplicated (¤) = X, added to wiki-list = Y.

1786: A description of a new chart of history: Containing a view of the principal ... (102 pages)

1786: The theological and miscellaneous works of Joseph Priestley, Volume 6 (collected by John Towill Rutt)

1786: An history of early opinions concerning Jesus Christ: compiled from original ...

1787: Letters to a philosophical unbeliever ...

1787: The theological and miscellaneous works of Joseph Priestley, Volume 18 (collected by John Towill Rutt)

1787: Letters to Dr. Horne, Dean of Canterbury: to the young men, who are in a ... (188 pages)

1787: Versuche und Beobachtungen über verschiedene Theile der Naturlehre: nebst ... (360 pages)

1788: A free address to Protestant dissenters, as such.

1788: The theological repository; consisting of original essays, hints, queries ...

1788: Defences of Unitarianism for the year 1786-1789 (188 pages)

1788: Lectures on history, and general policy; to which is prefixed, an essay on a ... (473 pages)

1788: A general view of the arguments for the unity of God and against the ... (28 pages)

Full view results published in 1790-1794: unrelated/duplicated (¤) = X, added to wiki-list = Y.

1790: Experiments and observations on different kinds of air, and other branches ...

1790: The theological and miscellaneous works of Joseph Priestley, Volume 19 (collected by John Towill Rutt)

1790: Experiments and observations on different kinds of air and other ..., Volume 2

1790: Familiar letters, addressed to the inhabitants of Birmingham: in refutation ... (272 pages)

1791: Letters to the Right Honourable Edmund Burke: occasioned by his Reflections ... (155 pages)

1791: Lectures on history, and general policy (471 pages)

1791: Three tracts (214 pages)

1791: Letters to the members of the New Jerusalem Church formed by Baron Swedenborg (70 pages)

1791: An appeal to the public on the subject of the riots in Birmingham: To which ... (181 pages)

1791: Tracts, Volumes 1-2 (Unitarian Society: J.Priestley, R.Price, J.Toulmin, J.Hanway, T.Lindsey, G.Rogers, N.Lardner, J.Smith, H.Toulmin, D.Hartley, H.Haynes, T.Belsham)

1791: Lettres au très-honorable Edmund Burke au sujet de ses réflexions sur la ... (215 pages)

1792: A Scripture catechism, consisting of a series of questions: with references ... (35 pages)

1792: An appeal to the public, on the subject of the riots in Birmingham ..., Part 2 (210 pages)

1793: An history of the corruptions of Christianity, Volume 2

1793: Lectures on history, and general policy: to which is prefixed, An ..., Volume 2

1793: A sermon preached at the Gravel pit meeting: in Hackney, April 19th, 1793 ... (36 pages)

1793: Letters to a young man, part ii, occasioned by mr. Evanson's treatise on The ...

1793: Tracts, Volume 8 (Unitarian Society: J.Priestley, R.Price, J.Toulmin, J.Hanway, J.Smith, T.Lindsey, G.Rogers, N.Lardner, H.Toulmin, D.Hartley, H.Haynes, T.Belsham)

1793: A miscellaneous collection of sermons

1793: Lettres aux philosophes et aux politiques de France, sur la religion (68 pages)

1794: Heads of lectures on a course of experimental philosophy,: particularly ... (180 pages)

1794: Institutes of natural and revealed religion. To which is prefixed, An essay ...

1794: Discourses on the evidence of revealed religion (420 pages)

1794: Discourses relating to the evidence of revealed religion, Volume 1

1794: Tracts, Volume 10 (Unitarian Society: J.Priestley, R.Price, J.Toulmin, J.Hanway, J.Smith, T.Lindsey, G.Rogers, N.Lardner, H.Toulmin, D.Hartley, H.Haynes, T.Belsham)

1794: The present state of Europe compared with antient prophecies: a sermon ... (44 pages)

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1795: A continuation of the Letters to the philosophers and politicians of France ... (72 pages)

1796: Discourses relating to the evidence of revealed religion, Volume 2

1797: The theological and miscellaneous works of Joseph Priestley, Volume 17 (collected by John Towill Rutt)

1797: Tracts, Volume 11 (Unitarian Society: J.Priestley, R.Price, J.Toulmin, J.Hanway, J.Smith, T.Lindsey, G.Rogers, N.Lardner, H.Toulmin, D.Hartley, H.Haynes, T.Belsham)

1798: Cours d'histoire et de politique, contenant tout ce qui peut ..., Volume 2 (translated by André-Samuel-Michel Cantwell)

1799: Discourses relating to the evidence of revealed religion, Volume 3

Full view results published in 1800-1804: unrelated/duplicated (¤) = X, added to wiki-list = Y.

1800: Tracts, Volume 12 (Unitarian Society: J.Priestley, R.Price, J.Toulmin, J.Hanway, J.Smith, T.Lindsey, G.Rogers, N.Lardner, H.Toulmin, D.Hartley, H.Haynes,T.Belsham)

1801: Letters to the inhabitants of Northumberland and its neighbourhood, on ... (96 pages)

1802: The theological and miscellaneous works of Joseph Priestley, Volume 9 (collected by John Towill Rutt)

1802: A general history of the Christian church: from the fall of the ..., Volume 1

1803: Lectures on history, and general policy: to which is prefixed, An essay in a ...

1803: A general history of the Christian church: to the fall of the ..., Volume 1 (552 pages)

1803: The theological and miscellaneous works of Joseph Priestley, Volume 11 (collected by John Towill Rutt)

1803: A general history of the Christian church: from the fall of the ..., Volume 4

1803: Notes on all the books of scripture: for the use of the pulpit and ..., Volume 1

1803: Lectures on history, and general policy; to which is prefixed, An essay on a ...

1804: The theological and miscellaneous works of Joseph Priestley, Volume 12 (edited by John Towill Rutt)

1804: A general history of the Christian church: to the fall of the ..., Volume 2 (552 pages)

1804: Index to the Bible: in which various subjects which occur in the Scriptures ... (343 pages)

1804: Notes on all the books of scripture: for the use of the pulpit and ..., Volume 4 (NB: This is actualy Vol. 1:4 from 1803)

1804: The doctrines of heathen philosophy: compared with those of revelation (278 pages)

1804: Index to the Bible (by J. Priestley)

Full view results published in 1805-1809: unrelated/duplicated (¤) = X, added to wiki-list = Y.

1805: Index to the Bible: in which the various subjects which occur in the ... (338 pages)

1805: A general history of the Christian church: from the fall of the ..., Volume 3

1805: Discourses on various subjects, intended to have been delivered in ... (385 pages)

1805: A vindication of certain passages in a discourse: on ... the death of Dr ... (109 pages, cowriter T.Belsham and JP.Smith)

1805: Socinianism brought to the test, or, Jesus Christ proved to be either the ... (251 pages, cowriter J.Macgowan)

1806: The theological and miscellaneous works of Joseph ..., Volume 1, Issue 1

1806: Memoirs of Dr. Joseph Priestley: to the year 1795, Volume 1 (911 pages)

1807: Memoirs of Dr. Joseph Priestley to the Year 1795, Volume 2 (430 pages)

1809: Memoirs of the Rev. Dr. Joseph Priestley, to the year 1795 (202 pages)

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1812: A general view of the arguments for the unity of God: and against the... (35 pages)

1815: Tracts in controversy with Bishop Horsley (493 pages)

1826: The theological and miscellaneous works of Joseph Priestley, Volume 24 (edited by John Towill Rutt)

1826: Lectures on history, and general policy; to which is prefixed, An essay on a ...

1830: Sermons (222 pages, written by Richard Price and Joseph Priestley)

¤1831: Historical account of the navigable rivers, canals, and railways, of Great ... (702 pages)

¤1831: Historical account of the navigable rivers, canals, and railways, of Great ...

1833: English grammar: Lectures on the theory of language and universal grammar ... (526 pages)

1833: Memoirs of the Rev. Joseph Priestley: to the year 1795 (112 pages)

1834: Views of Christian truth, piety, and morality: selected from the writings of ... (207 pages, cowriter Henry Ware)

¤1836: Sermons (222 pages, written by Richard Price and Joseph Priestley, copy of the edition published in 1830)

1838: A history of the corruptions of Christianity (312 pages)

2009: Discourses Relating to the Evidences, Volume 1 (452 pages, copy of the edition published in 1796)

2009: Discourses Relating to the Evidences of Revealed Religion, Volume 2 (492 pages, copy of the edition published in 1797)

2010: Notes on All the Books of Scripture, for the Use of the Pulpit and ..., Volume 4 (306 pages, copy of the edition published in 1804)

Danish Expert (talk) 16:34, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! What of this do you think we should add to the article and how should we organize it? Awadewit (talk) 05:52, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

I suggest we keep the same overall structure for the "List of online documents" as in the "List of works". So I have now sorted them into the same 7 categories as in the "List of works" (in my offline editor). After some additional thoughts, I also suggest we add two extra "Translation categories" to list the important translated works in German and French. The reason for this being, that unfortunately not all of Priestleys works yet are available online in an English version. Finaly I also propose we adhere to the following listing and sorting criteria, for the works in each of the 9 categories:

• Listing criteria: In order to get a perfect overview of the works, I suggest we only list 1 link for each volume/work. If we find several editions of the same volume/work, then I propose the earliest edition shall be chosen for the list. If the documents were of a more recent date I would prefer the latest edition (to get rid of mistakes), but as Priestleys documents are more than 200 years old, I prefer the earliest edition to be uploaded (to serve the "historical value" of the document). This is my subjective preference, and something I am ready to change if some of you have another oppinion.
• Sortering criteria: In order to get a better structure in the list, I also propose we only list the works in a "semi-chronological" order. Meaning that if several volumes exist with the same title, then they should be grouped together with the priority in the list being the publish time of the first edition of the first volume. If the uploaded link for the document is for a second edition of a work/volume, then I recommend we note the publish time of the first edition in parenthesis -and sort it according to that.

I expect to upload a new edit of the "online works" chapter later today (sunday evening). Right now I just started to compile it, and for sure it takes a lot of time to compile. :-)

Danish Expert (talk) 11:42, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

External links section

Is there some pressing reason why this section does not follow the guidelines at MOS:APPENDIX, both having an unusual name and being second-from-bottom rather than bottom? Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 08:50, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

It's not intended to be an EL section, as the links don't cover the subject matter of the article itself (they're not links to full or partial bibliographies).

Many bibliography articles (and other specialized types of list) use external links within the text, eg List of works by Mary Shelley. The FLC process has passed this one and List of works of William Gibson, for example.

HTH. -- Quiddity (talk) 19:59, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

FLC is not a guarantee of perfection. External links are allowed in the body of articles, but if they are to be put in appendices then they should follow the conventions established for that purpose so as not to trip up editors trying to link to them. I would note that list of works of William Gibson uses the conventional appendix titles even if it contains inline links for some other material. I originally noticed this because Joseph Priestley had a broken anchor to said section, presumably because someone renamed it. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 09:44, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I missed that it was duplicating content. In that case, yes, that section should be properly merged into the main sections of the article, as with Gibson and Shelley. -- Quiddity (talk) 19:06, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Ah, here is Chris arguing (again) for standardization, at the expense of clarity to the reader and accuracy. The reason that this section has been separated from the main list is because the main list only lists first edition publications and the full-text online texts include more than that (indeed, there are more online versions listed on this talk page that need to be integrated). Integrating them will only confuse the reader as to what precise editions are being referred to. Awadewit (talk) 02:15, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

The "reader clarity and accuracy" here is only alleged, and every other article on the project seems to get by just fine by using a standard section header. Arguing for standardisation when that's precisely what the MoS suggests isn't a bad thing, and pages should not arbitrarily deviate from it at editor discretion without a firm reason for doing so. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 08:15, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Chris, it is not "alleged". I just explained the reasons. Awadewit (talk) 19:01, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

(out) The MOS is a guideline and as such is descriptive, not proscriptive. I think it disingenuous to first claim the name must be changed to External links, then to say that the MOS prescribes certain changes for an EL section. Whatever happened to WP:IAR? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 19:15, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm happy to follow the primary contributor's opinion. Aggravating the copious-content-contributors for minor concerns is a terrible tactic! Also per Ruhrfisch. -- Quiddity (talk) 01:33, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

It is also true that allowing primary content contributors to veto changes ensures that they will remain the primary content contributors because other editors become disinclined to work with them. IAR applies when a change would prevent one from improving the encyclopedia. The current structuring is only subjectively an improvement over the layout used by practically every other article. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:51, 14 June 2010 (UTC)