Talk:Lorna Balfour

Updating Revisions & Citations

I'm not the original creator of this article but I noticed the creator was having issues with references so I helped to find some better ones and clean up the writing on their draft based on the sources I found. I used wiki’s guidelines for notability, BLP, and reliable sources while editing.

@Stwalkerster Thanks so much for your contributions! You made some edits and notes on notability and BLP based on the sources so I wanted to add clarity here for some of the sources that I provided or edited. It looks like the article isn’t “unsourced” the source for the Emmy Award winners just had link rot. I went ahead and repaired that link and added back the info regarding the Emmy win. I also updated some of the additional sources in the article to better ones I found while updating everything :) Elbe202 (talk) 00:13, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

@Elbe202: right, let me take another stab at this, and I'm afraid I'm going to be pretty damning in this one. Firstly, and possibly least importantly, the short description should be very short, a few words summarising the subject. Good examples would include "Heritage railway", "Canadian actor", etc. My suggestion here would be "American journalist" or (if there's sourcing for it) "American journalist and actress".

Secondly, there is zero sourcing for the roles in Everwood, Touched by an Angel, High School Musical 3, Hatching Pete. If it's not sourced, we shouldn't be including it in the article.

Another point is the claim that Balfour won an Emmy when the sourcing for this actually says she was on a team of nearly four hundred people by rough count seems very disingenuous at best. We must make the clarification that she was on the team that won it if we mention it at all - and I'm of the opinion here that this is such a tenuous link (given the sheer number of people on the team) that it's unlikely to really confer any notability at all here.

Finally, we come to sourcing, which for this article is quite frankly terrible. None of the sources are usable to show notability. Most of the sources aren't independent of the subject, and those that are don't have anything close to significant coverage. I've covered this in brief in the table below, but this should (again in my opinion) have never made it to being a live article and probably should be deleted. Balfour doesn't appear to meet either our general notability guideline, nor our specific notability guideline for creative professionals.

Source assessment table: prepared by User:Stwalkerster
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
"Alumni Profiles". Waterford School. Retrieved 2022-09-18.	Alumni, so has connection to subject	?		✘ No
Stories, Local. "Meet Lorna Balfour of Looma|TV and Looma Media in Sandy Springs - Voyage ATL Magazine | ATL City Guide". voyageatl.com. Retrieved 2022-09-18.	Interview			✘ No
Michaelson, Jenniffer. "Dietitian Stephanie Parker takes on the healthy student challenge". KSL TV – via KSL.com.	Authored by subject		Zero coverage, video of subject interviewing someone else	✘ No
Dec. 14, Lorna Balfour | Posted-; A.m, 2015 at 10:02. "'Active Classroom' program gets kids moving in order to learn". www.ksl.com. Retrieved 2022-09-18.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)	Authored by subject		Zero coverage, it's an article by the subject	✘ No
"Lorna Balfour". Bold TV. Retrieved 2022-09-18.	Promotional author profile by publication subject writes for			✘ No
Nordyke, Kimberly; Nordyke, Kimberly (2017-05-10). "Sports Emmys: NBCUniversal's Rio Olympics Coverage Tops Winners". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved 2022-09-27.			Doesn't mention subject at all	✘ No
"NBC Sports Group Wins 9 Sports Emmy Awards". Comcast. May 9, 2017.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)	Press release by employer	Press release	Doesn't mention subject	✘ No
"THE NATIONAL ACADEMY OF TELEVISION ARTS & SCIENCES ANNOUNCES WINNERS OF THE 38th ANNUAL SPORTS EMMY® AWARDS" (PDF). TheEmmys.tv. May 9, 2017. Archived from the original on November 5, 2021.			A single name in a list of 380 on the team who won the award	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

So, unless we manage to find some radically better sourcing, I'm considering nominating this article for deletion. stwalkerster (talk) 22:44, 29 September 2022 (UTC)