Talk:Luzon

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Name

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The name of the Philippine main island came from the Japanese word "Luzon".[citation needed] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wtmitchell (talkcontribs)

Junk that sentence. Luzon in Japanese is Ruson. --Chris S. 23:26, 26 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

I was startled to see this diff pop up on my watchlist. I apparently did add that and forget to sign it. The edit summary said "Needs a cite". It's since been removed but, having seen it pop up, I dug around and found Keat Gin Ooi (2004). Southeast Asia: a historical encyclopedia, from Angkor Wat to East Timor. ABC-CLIO. pp. 798. ISBN 9781576077702., which says that the name comes from the Tagalog word lusong, referring to a wooden mortar used to pound rice, that the Chinese used to call the island Liusung, that when the Europeans put it on the map the name became Luconia, and that the hard c got changed to a z at some point to approximate the original Tagalog word. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 05:01, 14 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

It is also a Kapampangan term, and there are many instances where some tagalog words are infact from the Kapampangan language, and vice versa.--70.134.77.134 (talk) 09:37, 25 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

See History of Luzon. Arius1998 (talk) 05:22, 7 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

The name "Luzon" is a Spanish surname. It seems possible that if the early Portuguese explorers mapped it as "Luçonia" or "Luçon", then the Spanish changed the letter "c" to "z" giving it its present name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.41.74.197 (talk) 15:09, 3 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

The malay name of Luzon is Selurong.Kasumi-genx (talk)

other possible etymologies

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Lusones- named by Spaniards after an ancient northern tribe.--Jondel 07:46, 22 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

The above mentioned assumption by the user Jondel is very improbable.Due to the fact, that the Spanish named the island " Nueva Castilla" 15:31, 25 June 2010 (UTC)Reply


New updates: Luzon may have been known to the Portuguese as the ' first European explorers recorded it in their charts as Luçonia or Luçon '. It is known in history books but the maps were mostprobably made by them.--Jondel (talk) 00:37, 16 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

The name "Luzon" is a Spanish surname. It seems possible that if the early Portuguese explorers mapped it as "Luçonia" or "Luçon", then the Spanish changed the letter "c" to "z" giving it its present name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.41.74.197 (talk) 15:09, 3 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

The Chronicles of the Ming Dynasty talk about a kingdom in Luzon (吕宋国) paying levis to the Chinese Emperor.--Arnis birada (Source: http://www.lib.kobe-u.ac.jp/directory/sumita/5A-161/index.html ) 15:23, 25 June 2010 (UTC) This goes together with the precolonial Portuguese name "Luçonia". 15:33, 25 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

I've just added another source citation supporting its current assertion re the etymology to the article: Keat Gin Ooi (2004). Southeast Asia: A Historical Encyclopedia, from Angkor Wat to East Timor. ABC-CLIO. p. 798. ISBN 978-1-57607-770-2. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 04:58, 4 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

I also found: "Luzon stemmed from the Tagalog word Kalusunan which means the northern most part. True to its name, the island group of Luzon is in the northern most part of the archipelago; it comprises of Luzon Island itself, the islands of Batanes, Babuyan, Romblon, Masbate, Catanduanes, Marinduque, Mindoro, and Palawan. - See more at: http://ffemagazine.com/philippine-geography-description-of-luzon-visayas-and-mindanao/#sthash.4FcVPPM8.dpuf " Jidanni (talk) 23:00, 27 November 2015 (UTC) although FFemagzine publish an article about kalusunan, but the word itself "kalusunan" does not exist within the Filipino Language, if it came from lusong, this would mean "to move forward". and Filipinos never call Luzon as Kalusunan, it will always be Luzon, because the whole island of Luzon was inhabited by different speaking individuals, including katagalugan, kapampangan, kabikulan, and ilocandia which prevent the ancient civilization to name the whole single island at all. it will always be Luzon and not KalusunanReply

However Google Maps went overboard I think: https://productforums.google.com/forum/?#!topic/map-maker/1RokwAbYTfg Jidanni (talk) 23:12, 27 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

Tribe

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"Aeta" and "Agta" are two spellings of the same name.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by MD1937 (talkcontribs) 02:27, 3 November 2007 (UTC)Reply 

Request: Map with main cities

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It would be nice be have a map showing the main cities of the island. Thanks! Nicolas1981 (talk) 02:21, 15 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

Regions

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I just edited the Administrative divisions section, hoping to improve the wording there. That raised some questions about its content.

  • Why is MIMAROPA included here? It certainly does not lie on the island of Luzon. If it belongs here, the reason for that should be clarified. If it doesn't belong here, it should be removed.
  • Why are several bits of CALABARZON (and MIMAROPA, if that stays in the article) colored anomalously on the map? If the anomalous colorings are correct, they should be explained. If not, they should be corrected.
  • The map shows that the Bicol Region includes bits of geography which are not on the island of Luzon, but that is not mentioned in the article text. The article text should mention that. (I haven't edited that in because it probably goes along with the resolution of the other issues mentioned above). Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 03:53, 20 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
I think MIMAROPA is included because it includes Mindoro, which is part of the political area of Luzon (as opposed to Visayas or Mindanao), although this should be clarified in the text.
I think the anomalous colourings are mean to be lakes. The ones in CALABARAON are definitely Laguna de Bay and Taal. Best to colour them white.
Most issues here I think stem from the confusion between Luzon the island and Luzon the political unit, both of which are covered in this article. Best solution would be to clarify in the text what each statement is referring to. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 04:01, 20 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

Chinese governor of Luzon during the Ming dynasty

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I recently demonstrated that the "Chinese governor of Luzon" is a myth originating from mistakes made by Western historians more than a century ago. The myth has been widely repeated in English-language secondary sources (including the many cited below) and has lately also been embraced and embellished in China, but this should not detract from the fact that it has no basis whatsoever in premodern Chinese sources. Please see my essay "Ko Ch'a-lao/Xu Chailao: A Mythical Ming Chinese Governor of Luzon" - Shao-yun Yang 2605:A000:1117:E2EB:6DC0:EE84:32EE:B8 (talk) 01:06, 21 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

The Yongle Emperor instituted a Chinese Governor on Luzon during Zheng He's voyages and appointed Ko Ch'a-lao to that position in 1405.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][22][23][24][25][26][27][28][29][30][31][32][33][34][35][36][37][38][39][40]

The Chinese Ming Yongle Emperor appointed a governor over Luzon.

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Kasumi-genx (talk) The Problem is Luzon is a misnomer, it might be only a part of it. Kasumi-genx (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:40, 17 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

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Google maps has renamed this island "Kalusunan",

So it would be only proper to retitle and redirect this article.

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Orphaned references in Luzon

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Sama-Bajau in Palawan

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@Rene Bascos Sarabia Jr.: If you add the Sama-Bajau as an ethnic group of Luzon (in the island group sense), you will also have to add the Cuyonon, Tagbanwa, Palawano, Batak, Tau't Batu, and Tausug on Palawan, and all Mangyan groups on Mindoro. Is this really within the scope of this article? Philippine ethnographers and linguists rarely treat Palawan and Mindoro as 'satellites' of Luzon. –Austronesier (talk) 16:23, 8 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Oh, ok that's inconsistent, I just put it there since the map also colored Palawan as a part of Luzon, if however, the scholarly consensus is that, Palawan is not a part of Luzon, you are welcome to erase my edits bro! Regards! :D --Rene Bascos Sarabia Jr. (talk)
Yes, the idea of a "wider" Luzon area is mostly a political thing, due to the shifted demographics that has seen people from Luzon moving into Palawan in the last decades. –Austronesier (talk) 12:58, 9 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Magsaliksik SA mga tradition at kultura Ng mga Luzon? Script 103.171.89.86 (talk) 12:40, 15 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Map overzoomed

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Map at top should show whole island. Jidanni (talk) 08:01, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply