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Lede and article title

I’ve changed the junction list here to just include junctions with expressways and primary national roads, and added this one in Cagayan. The DPWH maps the MNR as a longer route ending in Allacapan, but our article still says this ends at Laoag. I might consider renaming this article as Manila North Road (as MacArthur Highway is just part of it, and actually continues to Dagupan on Route 57). TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 21:44, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

• @TagaSanPedroAko: I suggest this article should only focus on the MacArthur Highway segment and remove parts where the highway is no longer called as such (i.e. the La Union - Laoag segment). While renaming of the article may help, I have some reservations due to WP:COMMONNAME. Is Manila North Road commonly-used in the English-language reliable sources?

BTW, an unrelated comment, much of the categorization of Philippine highways on Commons is a huge mess, lacking consistency, using variants of names (there's MacArthur Highway but also Manila North Road). Many of these subcategories were created by Judgefloro, and according to him he relies on street signs, banners, and the name commonly used by the people (ex. c:User talk:Judgefloro/Archive 22#Category:Nagtahan_Boulevard). There's a lot of fixing to do, but with technical limitations (I only contribute through my smartphone), I cannot do most fixing seamlessly. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 03:41, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

• MNR is the official and original name of the whole route. The MacArthur Highway name was latter assigned, but only for the highway from Monumento to Urdaneta. MNR doesn’t end at Laoag anymore, but it has been extended to a dead end in Allacapan. I understand official resources weren’t very accessible the time this article was created, but it’s time things need to be corrected here since the DPWH published its road inventory. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 05:23, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

We can make a separate article called "N2 highway (Philippines)" to cover the rest of the route. I guess routes are more notable than road segments. —hueman1 (talk • contributions) 01:19, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Just my opinion again: I think this article should stay as it is, but removing parts beyond Pangasinan: so that this article will be strictly confined to the MacArthur Highway segment. For much of the MNR, this will go to the route article N2 highway (Philippines) as Hueman1 suggested. Note that it was a redirect when I last visited it (a year ago perhaps?). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 04:59, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

I might better prefer creating an MNR page as it's the longer route, following Route 1 north of Laoag (through the actual transition is at Route 100) then spurring off Route 1 at Allacapan to a dead end. But since that name is somewhat little used (and most segments known more generically as National Highway as well as local names), then covering the remainder as part of Route 2 is enough, since Route 1 covers the MNR north of Laoag. -TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 18:24, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Why was the bypasses section of the article removed?

I am pretty curious to know. BoholMappingAndRoutes (talk) 09:51, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

@BoholMappingAndRoutes: It was probably removed because the roads that were mentioned in the section are bypass routes of N2 (which currently is a redirect) and not of the MacArthur Highway itself. This simply means that the MacArthur Highway and its designations are not synonymous with each other. —hueman1 (talk • contributions) 00:44, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Inclusion of Cagayan Valley Section

The macarthur highway is also part of AH26. The highway spans from Caloocan to Appari. After the Bangag–Magapit road section, the road becomes tertiary and ends in a dead end. My sources are the road and bridge inventory and DPWH Atlas 2020.