Talk:Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome

Questions

1) Probably doing this wrong...but since I can't edit the body... can we get the vandalism cleaned up some? The guy drove a camel powered car? Attacked by a pigeon? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.18.65.36 (talk) 03:20, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

2) What do you all think about editing part of the summary - see below as it reads now:

Reaching Jebediah's hideout, the children find out that the "sonic" is just an old French learning record. Max coerces Jedediah to help them escape in his plane, but there is too much weight and not enough runway between them and the attackers' vehicles.

I think to be more accurate (after watching the film 5/19/2013) it should read:

On the journey to Jebediah's hideout on the converted truck-train hybrid vehicle, the children find out that the "sonic" is just an old French-language instruction record. Once they arrive at the hideout, Max coerces Jedediah to help them escape in his plane, but there is too much weight and not enough runway between them and the attackers' vehicles.

Sequel?

"Mad Max 4: Fury Road" redirects here, but should it? As I understand it, MM4 will take place between MM1 and Road Warrior, thus it isn't a sequel to Thunderdome. --DOHC Holiday (talk) 19:05, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

References in Other Media

Someone (not me, I can barely figure out how to post this, and will likely mess this part up) should list the Buffy the Vampire Slayer Quote from the final season where Buffy takes the "uber-vamp" to a deserted area and everyone climbs the walls to watch the match going on below and she says "welcome to thunderdome" and someone else explains "two men enter, one man leaves."

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15 yrs...

Is there any evidence in the film that says this movie takes place 15 yrs later? I don't remember hearing it in the dialogue... Tommyt 17:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

It's not in the dialogue nor is it referenced anywhere else in the movie. The fact that it takes place 15 years after the events in The Road Warrior appears only in the film's production notes. (See: http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1243&dat=19850830&id=Q7koAAAAIBAJ&sjid=vYYDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5355,213739) Captain Quirk (talk) 07:10, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Thunderdome

I think we should mention that Mad Max 3 is the most quoted/sampled movie at the Thunderdome_(music_festival) and other hardcore techno music. Frigo 10:31, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Tale to Astonish

Am I the only 1 astounded that these "post-apocalyptic" societies don't have fuel, but manage to have cars, planes, jetskis, & automatic rifles? Where are they getting the spares & ammo from...? Liebowitz, canticler 20:52, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

• From other abandoned cars, from abandoned fuel reserves or oil wells, from abandoned rifle and ammo shops, from abandoned airports. This is probably the easiest thing to rationalize in this type of film. Sir Rhosis 17:47, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Anyone who has seen all 3 movies can witness the de-evolution of civilization. Mad Max is present day, Road Warrior is people trying to escape an oil well & fuel refinery in the Outback (Alice Springs, maybe?) and by the time of Bartertown, the cars are running on pig shit and covered in cowhide. Notice Max's car is pulled by camels. How did they get the tires? that's a good question.

its a fantasy. the movie would suck without the cars and guns. Jeffrywith1e (talk) 18:38, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Mad Max is not "present day" it's set in a near future. "A few years from now". From what Miller and the crew say, it's something between 5 and 15 years from "now". Mad Max 2 is shot around Broken Hill and figure a real place : "Mundi Mundi". We can see the road sign at the begining of the movie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.241.160.217 (talk) 15:46, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Relation to The Who's "Tommy"?

I was reading the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_(album) and noticed Tommy's parents are listed as Captain Walker and Mrs. Walker so I came over here to see if there was any discussion if the Captain Walker and Mrs. Walker in Thunderdome were a reference to this. 198.6.46.11 (talk) 17:02, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

It could be a reference, and if you find a reliable source that suggests that it is, it can be considered for addition. Generally though, this doesn't appear to be very note worthy, and trivia is usually discouraged from wikipedia pages. Most of the trivia listed is in danger of deletion as it is. magnius (talk) 17:14, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

It's not a reference to Tommy. The name "Walker" comes from the art director Graham Walker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.241.160.217 (talk) 13:12, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Bruce Spence as (not) the Gyro Captain

The reason that Max recognizes that Bruce Spence is because he recognizes his kid from when his caravan was stolen in the first part of the movie. The Gyro Captain had a gyrocopter in The Road Warrior and not an airplane, so it wouldn't really make sense that Max would automatically think that he had a plane in Thunderdome unless he had already confirmed it previously. Madmaxmarchhare (talk) 01:50, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable, but like OR. I don't think a connection between the characters in those movies is made. If it can't be sourced can someone else do an independent check maybe? ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:23, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Bruce Spence's characters are listed as "Gyro Captain" in Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior and as "Jedediah" the pilot in Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome and I believe that they are two different characters played by the same actor (yes, confusing). The Gyro Captain threw in with the settlers from the oil refinery in MM2 and trekked to the coast with them. Naaman Brown (talk) 20:07, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

The same source below (discussing it's 15 years after MMII) also states the characters are not the same person, despite the confusing use of the same actor as pilot. http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1243&dat=19850830&id=Q7koAAAAIBAJ&sjid=vYYDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5355,213739 MartinezMD (talk) 20:52, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Citing a review in which someone's opinion is expressed without any explanation why the reviewer thinks they aren't the same character is far from sufficient reason for saying it's so in the Wikipedia article. While there's no explicit confirmation they're both one and the same, we the audience are supposed to make that connection from all the supporting evidence, i.e. they're played by the same actor, they're both pilots, and they both have a young son (even though there's no logical reason to think it's actually the Feral Kid given the length of Max's hair at the beginning of the movie). Despite what Madmaxmarchhare says, Max doesn't just recognize Jedediah, he acts surprised, something he wouldn't do if he already knew Jedediah was likely to be there. 92.25.215.136 (talk) 10:04, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

OK to put an end to this (and all this time I was positive that they were the same character) here is an interview with Bruce Spence himself in 2011, in which he says they are not the same character. http://www.mediamikes.com/2011/10/interview-with-bruce-spence/ -JCM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.81.94.75 (talk) 20:16, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

The interviewer states they're different characters, not Spence, who seems to be saying the producers wanted to keep it ambiguous once he was cast. 92.29.228.130 (talk) 11:13, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Trivia Sections

First, I wanted to paste this good-faith text here since I deleted it from the main page: In the post-apocalyptic themed 2009 video game Borderlands, there is a level in which the player can get an achievement titled, "Can't we get BEYOND Thunderdome?" -- the line itself a reference to the MST3kepisode lampooning the film Laserblast.

However, anytime someone starts a trivia section on any of the Mad Max pages, it turns into a big, awful mess pretty quickly. Sometime after that, someone throws their hands up in disgust and erases all of them from all the pages.

There is probably an argument to be made that these films have greatly influenced other media and this deserves some air time. However, I'm starting to think that it might be good to create a separate page that lists the influence the series has had on other media so these types of things don't crowd the main article. Mine is just an idea, and I would love to hear from others on this. Madmaxmarchhare (talk) 03:55, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

What would probably work is if the powers that people were to add something like a collapsible section (defaulted in the collapsed state) that trivia could be stuck in, thus not littering the article up. Another possibility would be the addition of a Trivia tab to go next to "Article" and "Discussion." As it is not likely that either of these possibilities will be implemented in the near future (or probably ever), if a trivia section exists, the trivia should be limited to most significant items (in other words, no trivial trivia in the trivia section). — al-Shimoni (talk) 04:51, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Seems kinda redundant that there's 2 different entries about 2pac's California Love. Obviously if there are elements in the video Hype William's was inspired by the movie. It's like describing a ghost as white and pale. It's the same thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.227.236.60 (talk) 07:38, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Centurion

Truly appreciate Poetry in scene with the Kite on the Desert. Thanks, WB75.201.43.42 (talk) 18:01, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Blaster - identity

The text states that Max does not kill blaster because he has behavioural problems. But when Blaster's mask comes off at the end of the fight there is a close up on his face. In the original Mad Max, Aunt May had a large disabled son. Considering the number of coincidences already in this film i.e. the sky captain, I have always believed that Max remembers the boy and is unable to kill him. In the next shot, Blaster smiles straight at Max as if in recognition. This is the only still I can find from the original image. Any thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.42.20.49 (talk) 20:55, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Qantas 747 is actually an Ansett plane.

The tail markings on the plane in the desert are clearly those of an Ansett airctaft. The logo had the stars of an Ansett or Australian airlines logo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.124.74.11 (talk) 12:42, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

• The tail clearly has no markings.[1] 60.242.1.97 (talk) 13:07, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

bad grammar

"having earned her respect, she spares his life." "Having" refers to the subject of the following clause, "she". That makes two females in the sentence and an unidentifiable "his". Rewrite. 4.248.217.109 (talk) 14:09, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

1) The ambiguity here is usually resolved by context. 2) You should have said "having earned" rather than "having." 3) A clearer phrasing would be "he having earned her respect" but since the clause just before this one says "Max was found by Aunty", with the clauses connected by "but", it should be first assumed in the mind as "Max having earned". 4) Because of the opposite genders in the pronouns, both matching the opposite sexes of the characters, it should be clear, anyway (again, context). Just some thoughts. — al-Shimoni (talk) 12:45, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

LOCATION

"Shooting also took place in the sand dunes of Paoay, Ilocos Norte in the Philippines.[13]"

This is totally wrong. The movie was never shot in Manilla. It was shot in 4 places in Australia : Sydney (Homebush), the Blue Mountains (Mermaid creek), Coober Pedy and some shots near the Walls of China in the Mungo National Park. The source for the shooting in Manilla are gone, and not trustable. Like the sources that claim that the movie was shot in Almeria (Spain). Totally false. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.241.160.217 (talk) 13:19, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Source : http://madmaxmovies.com/mad-max-beyond-thunderdome/filming-locations/index.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.241.160.217 (talk) 16:52, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

That's not a reliable source; it's only a fan site. The shooting location information is sourced to the Manila Bulletin, a newspaper in the Philippines, which is a reliable source. Please stop removing it. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:17, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

OK, it's not only a "fan site"... did you take a look at it ? But anyway. You see this source as reliable ? It's definitely not. It's the only source that claims that Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome shooting took place in Manila. Find another sources to this stupid fact. Mad Max was never shot in Manila.

FOR EXAMPLE, Here's a source about the shooting of Mad Max 2 (or 3) shot in Almeria (and the disclaimer) http://somosviajeros.com/blog/cuando-mel-gibson-perdio-un-coche-en-almeria.html

But, you still can find this info (that mad max 2 or 3 was shot in Almeria) in some magazines, but it's totally false. Your source proves nothing. It's the only one who say so. It's not reliable at all. A newspaper is not a reliable source. Definitely not. I work on the mad max production since years, I interviewed a lot of actors and crew members and I can assure you that they never shot anything in Manila and that you can find a lot of mistakes in newspapers. The first thing to do, with such a strange info like this is to find OTHER sources to verify it. Some quick searchs proves you that NEVER a Mad Max movie was shot in the Philippines and all the "sand dunes" scenes were shot on the shores of Sydney's Botany Bay. So, before you put this fake info back, please, find just ONE other reliable source for this pseudo shooting in Philipines, something else than a stupid tourist sign and this loosy article... Because if we begin to believe this kind of stuff you can add SPAIN to the shooting locations of the mad max trilogy. I write articles in a magazine, i can write whatever I want. It's not reliable. It begins when you have several reliable sources who say the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.241.160.217 (talk) 11:53, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Here another source for the so call "mad max shooting" in the philippines : https://books.google.fr/books?id=Brlm8CZEsIcC&pg=PA151&lpg=PA151&dq=Paoay+Sand+Dunes+mad+max&source=bl&ots=1sQe0lN8lp&sig=4-NRVMLqokbL3OkBiI4umvli-vI&hl=fr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjMp9zAnZbNAhWEIJoKHeLYBT0Q6AEIbDAN#v=onepage&q=Paoay%20Sand%20Dunes%20mad%20max&f=false it's written "MAD MAX", not "Mad Max 2", not "Mad Max beyond thunderdome" but "MAD MAX". For the dune sands scenes... there's not a scene like this in the movie. Just two scenes shots on the Melbourne beachs. Beaches clearly identified ! So the reliable source of that magazine comes from a statement from the tourist information. Who would you trust ? Some guys there who wants to make some publicity or people who worked on and in the movie ?

Here's now an article from THE GUARDIAN speaking about the sand dunes used in Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. Something more reliable than the article that was linked. http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/dec/22/cronullas-sand-dunes-survived-mad-max-face-insidious-threat — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.241.160.217 (talk) 15:43, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Byron Kennedy's death

Byron Kennedy was not scouting for Mad Max 3 when he died in his helicopter. He was in a private flight with a kid from his family. The screenplay was written many months later. There's no connection at all between that accident and Mad Max 3. This mistake was made in several magazines, years after. No article from that time speak about that. More, the source of this mistake in this wikipedia article doesn't say anything about "scouting for Mad Max 3". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.241.160.217 (talk) 17:47, 23 November 2018 (UTC)