Talk:Maithils

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I found this article in a bad shape. I gave it a tolerable starting form, yet much is wanted. Use District Gazeteers and other sources to imrove this and related articles like Mithila and Maithili. -Vinay Jha Vinay Jha 18:01, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Merger Proposal : Merge to Mithila

Merge this article Maithil to Mithila as the subject matter of both the articles are same

• Support as proposer.-- ÐℬigXЯaɣ 18:24, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

• A citizen of Mithila is called Maithil an Their language is called Maithili . Maithil and Mithila are not same. Maithil and Mithila are like Indian and India respectively. In Devanagri script Maithil is written as मैथिल and Mithila is written as मिथिला Vikas11004315 (talk) 18:13, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

• Yes Vikas I am aware of this, Being a Maithil myself :) we have another article about the region here at Mithila and language at Maithili language. I proposed merger because the article at the moment does not add a lot of information and has a sense of incompleteness, leaving readers unsatisfied. Besides the lack of references is another issue for this article. -- ÐℬigXЯaɣ 18:35, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

• Well, I have edited the article. More number of reliable references are included. I have made few changes too (whatever I felt necessary). Have a look. I believe,all the issue you had stated above are fixed. pls check Vikas11004315 (talk) 07:28, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose , the standard for most regions in India is to have a separate article for the respective ethno-linguistic group that inhabits the region. The Mithila article can deal with the history of the land itself including information prior to the formation of the Maithili language and its speakers while Maithils should deal with the people, their culture, and history. Ixudi (talk) 22:15, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Population accuracy

The infobox gives the 2011 population as 9.6 crore. According to crore, one crore is ten million (so a population of 96 million). Is this figure accurate? It needs a RS. Miniapolis 19:37, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Sheikhpura is a Magahi speaking district of Bihar not Maithili speaking district

Why is Sheikhpura district is wrongfully included in Maithili State as a Maithili speaking area?

Sheikhpura should be included in Bihar not Maithili because it is a Magahi speaking district not Maithili. I hope this error is corrected before Bihar is split from Maithili. Hajipur is also not a Maithili speaking area. Bhojpuri is spoken in this district. The no. of district in Maithili is 31 while only 6 in Bihar. This is because even those districts that is not Maithili speaking district is being included in Maithili as a Maithili speaking area and being carved out of Bihar. Let us not rush into splitting Bihar. Let us first correct this error. Let us first include these districts that are not Maithili speaking area to Bihar. This will help Bihar increase little bit in size which is very important. In its current state, Bihar will become very small in size, which is not helpful for Bihar. Bihar will be better off if we add more districts to it especially those that are not Maithili speaking area but incorrectly included in Maithili state as a Maithili speaking area. Let us not become greedy and become unjust to Bihar. Let the voice of those who care for Bihar reach to the government so that we can stop this injustice happen to Bihar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikhpura http://whatis.z505.com/idx.php?p=Magahi_language

(Showmeusername (talk) 02:27, 31 March 2014 (UTC))

Some changes need to be made to Map of Maithili

I am a Bihari, so I have a genuine concern for Bihar. Ever since I have across the news that Bihar is again going to be split from Purvanchal and Maithili, I am concerned that this is going to be very destructive split. It will be destructive because after split Bihar will become too small to grow and develop. While the new states of Purvanchal and Maithili will be 32 and 31 districts big, Bihar will have only 7 districts.

I understand that these decisions are made at parliament, so no matter what state will recommend the center will break the Bihar into tiny piece. But, I request the Bihar government to take whatever action necessary to include more districts to Bihar before the split take place. The size of Bihar should be at least 12 districts or more but not less.

Some changes would need to be made to the map of Maithili state. Below is the map of Maithili State.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maithil

Althogh Sheikhpura and Lakhisaira are Magahi speaking areas of Bihar, the map of Maithili wrongfully includes Sheikhpura and Lakhisaria districts as Maithili speaking area. See the links below https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikhpura https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakhisarai

Let us take these two districts out of this map and add it to the map of Bihar.  

In addition, three more Angika speaking districts – Jamui, Banka, and Mugner can be added to Bihar. In fact, Magahi is also a major language in these areas. It is extremely important to add these three districts to Bihar to ensure that after the proposed new states are established Bihar do not become too small to develop.

Showmeusername (talk) 17:16, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Languages of Bihar

Magahi, Angika, and Maithili are languages of Bihar. They may be similar but these languages have historically been independent. I don't see the point in dividing Bihar by language spoken. It doesn't seems totally logical to do. You want to know about languages of Bihar then see the links below.

http://www.peopleofbihar.com/page/bihar-languages

There could be more languages than just Bhojpuri, Magahi, and Maithili in Bihar. There can be more than one language spoken in any one districts.

Here is a quote from the article, "A Maithil (Devnagri: मैथिल, Tirhuta: মৈথিল) is a native speaker of the Maithili language, and includes all natives of Mithila region of India and Nepal". This doesn't seem true. For example, Sheikhpura and Lakhisaira have also been included in it where official language is Magahi. Therefore, the native speaker of these regions can not be Maithil. This is misleading. In addition, Magahi is also widely spoken in Angika speaking regions; for instance, Munger. . I have done some research but nowhere else I found that speaker of Angika are called Maithil. Maithil are those who speak Maithili language and live in the region where official language is Maithili not Magahi or Angika.

The point I am coming down to is that if you want to divide the Bihar by language of Magahi, Maithili then only those districts should be included in Mithila where official language is Maithili not Magahi or Angika. Otherwise, Bihar will become unfairly small. Bihar size should not be less than 12 districts, so let the Magahi and Angika speaking regions of Bihar be in Bihar after the split. This way total number of districts in Bihar will be 12 whereas 26 in Mithila.

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Showmeusername (talk • contribs) 02:17, 27 April 2014 (UTC) 

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Misrepresentation of sources

@Utcursch: @Sitush: Hi,the user Airkeeper is removing random content for trivial reasons and adding stuff not mentioned in the sources. For example he's removing mention to the term "Indo-Aryan" despite it being standard for ethno-linguistic articles to mention such. It seems he has looked at pages I usually edit and decided to try and vandalise them. Before it develops into a full blown edit war, I would prefer admin intervention.Damien2016 (talk) 17:17, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

I am not an admin. - Sitush (talk) 17:18, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Looks like a content dispute to me. I'd recommend taking a look at WP:DR. utcursch | talk 17:20, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

There are no source of Indo-Aryan origin of Maithilis. It's a disputed issue. It would be better not to use Indo-Aryan term. Many Maithilis have Australoid, Negrito strains as mentioned in the bibliography of the article itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Airkeeper (talk • contribs) 17:32, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Indo-Aryan is in reference to the language group. This is a linguistic grouping hence the lead line. This is also used in other articles. Also can you please provide the page number and book name? Thanks.Damien2016 (talk) 17:36, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 22 September 2017

Closest languages to Maithili are Bengali and Assamese. 146.199.135.249 (talk) 22:22, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. SparklingPessimist ^{Scream at me!} 23:18, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

On the related ethnic groups section, please add Bengalis and Assamese.

Update to Nepal's Province 2

Nepal's Province 2 has already been named as "Mithila Province" so kindly update the article 110.44.120.208 (talk) 16:11, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 June 2022

Late Chandra Lal Jha, a veteran Journalist of Nepali origin, who was sentenced to jail more than seven and half years of during different time slots of autocratic Panchayat Regime and fought for democracy through Journalism. He was the editor and publisher of Nepal Times Daily (Vernacular) and Weekly newspaper The Nepal Chronicle, published in English. 2400:1A00:B020:E688:F8D9:F029:2CBA:FBD4 (talk) 16:03, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 20:44, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Lead section

@Jakichandan please advise why you are making unexplained reversions of edits to the lead without any discussion. Thank you. Ixudi (talk) 20:50, 27 March 2023 (UTC) On closer inspection, the edits are sourced and both mention Bihar as the state. You have actually removed sourced content and made a misleading edit summary that it was unsourced! May need to get admins involved.Ixudi (talk) 20:52, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

@Ixudi: Better to be more specific as per cited sources. Moreover, eastern terai of Nepal, doesn't include only Madhesh Pradesh but also includes districts like Sunsari, Morang etc. which are also in Mithila. Please explain your point. Moreover, admins are more than welcome to intervene. Thank you.– Jakichandan (talk) 01:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

I have rephrased my edit, hope you agree. Cheers.– Jakichandan (talk) 02:15, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes, this is much better. Glad we could reach an agreement. Ixudi (talk) 23:08, 28 March 2023 (UTC)