Talk:Majlinda Kelmendi

Nationality

I have some concerns over her nationality.

• Judoinside says she's Kosovan.
• [1] says she's Kosovan.
• The Financial Times says she's Kosovan.
• The BBC says she's Kosovan.
• The Guardian says "Even though the United Kingdom, the US and Germany recognise Kosovo, the 21-year-old was not granted the wish to perform in her homeland's colours due to the resistance of Jacques Rogge, the International Olympic Committee president. Instead, she stepped out at the ExCeL for the Games wearing Albania's insignia."

Reassigning her from Kosovan to Albanian seems to be deeply misleading. bobrayner (talk) 01:41, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

She is Albanian as well, represented them in sport. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 01:52, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm afraid nationality doesn't work like that. She may as well have represented Azerbaijan in sport and it wouldn't mean a thing about her nationality. - MicMicMic (talk) 16:09, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

On here, that is the only way nationality works. Place of birth, irrelevant; citizenship, irrelevant. Whom you represent professionally is all that matters. Follow this debate from 2011 and you'll see. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 17:20, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Haha, no it's not. And what do you mean with "on here", like Wikipedia is some sort of special place where nationality gets to have a whole new definition! I won't even look at that discussion. Former discussions are far from being policy. Just because some other user might have f-ed up on a discussion, nationality doesn't get a whole new meaning. - MicMicMic (talk) 22:32, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

That "former discussion" set a precedent, it was the very fact that "Janics" is not known for her Serbian background and upbringing that we couldn't have her name restored where I believed it should be. Kelmendi's notability hangs on what we know her for and that is representing Albania. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 22:58, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Look, it's not my fault that you couldn't have her name restored where you believed it should be. Please come back with actual arguments and do not make further reverts. - MicMicMic (talk) 22:29, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm only going to explain this to you once. You may be excused for the short time you have edited but you are not so new to not have realised you are supposed to observe policy here. Firstly, I have provided two sources which support the statement that Kelmendi meets the WP requirements to qualify as Albanian. The fact that she originates from Kosovo is already stated on that very first line if you care to read it. Regrading policy, I provided a link to a past discussion in which I argued along the lines of your reasoning but the decision went against us. However, you by your own admittion refused to examine it. So now I will make things even simpler for you but giving you four of the countless examples to clarify that professional association trumps demonym of origin: Lorik Cana is Albanian like Kelmendi despite being from Kosovo; Xherdan Shaqiri - Swiss, Orhan Ademi - Swiss despite being ethnic Albanian from Macedonia; Rita Ora - British. Now that I have twice endeavoured to explain this to you, a further interruption on the article will certainly be a case of POV pushing with no excuses for being unfamiliar with policy. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 03:05, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

I don't have to be excused for anything here. Whatever sources you provided don't say anywhere that Majlinda Kelmendi is an Albanian, they simply say she was representing Albania at the Olympic games. If the fact that she is from Kosovo is already stated is no excuse to now say that she is an Albanian. I don't think you understand my reasoning at all and in the link provided by you there was no decision going against me. If there is any POV here, it comes from you. That is clear from the fact that you cite articles on people that are associated with Albania and Kosovo, but I'll have you know right away that I am not interested in that at all. Now stop trying to intimidate me and stop reverting justified edit made from bobrayner and me. I am also providing sources that state her nationality, not the country that she represented in the Olympics. - MicMicMic (talk) 13:36, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Majlinda's name in other languages

I have removed the note that has Majlinda's name in the Serbo-Croatian language. There is absolutely no reason to have such a note as she has no affiliation with the Serbian or Croatian nations and her name only exists in the Albanian language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MicMicMic (talk • contribs) 13:53, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Incompetent pov-pushing

Antidiskriminator, I realise you are keen to reinstate the work of Evlekis socks on many articles, but this is just incompetent. The source says "her hometown of Peja", and in your headlong rush to revert back to the sockpuppet version, you even broke a URL. Please stop. bobrayner (talk) 22:22, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Place of birth

In the article, it says Kelmendi was born in SFR Yugoslavia. However, this has been changed a few times to Kosovo. In 1991 when she was born, Peć was (as far as I know) part of Yugoslavia, so I think we should keep it that way instead of changing it to Kosovo. Ilyushka88 | ^Talk! _Contribs 03:50, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

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