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Can you add these international newspaper report came on 1912 and testimonial of refugees ?
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പുതുക്കോട്ട് ചാത്തുണ്ണി നായർ,പുത്തൂർ,കോഴിക്കോട്:
സെപ്റ്റംബർ 28 ന് മാപ്പിളമാർ വീട്ടിൽ വന്നു.ഞങ്ങൾ ഓടി.അവർ എൻറെ കൈകൾ കെട്ടി.അയൽക്കാരൻ തിയ്യർ തൊട്ടിയിൽ ഗോപാലനെയും ഇങ്ങനെ ചെയ്തു.മുതുമന ഇല്ലത്തിന് പടിഞ്ഞാറ് നഗളിക്കാവ് പറമ്പിലെ കിണറിനടുത്തു കൊണ്ട് പോയി അയാളെ വെട്ടിക്കൊന്നു കിണറ്റിലേക്ക് തള്ളി.ഞാൻ ഇസ്ലാമിൽ ചേരാൻ സമ്മതിച്ചു.ഖുർ ആനിലെ ചില വചനങ്ങൾ പറയിച്ചു,ഭക്ഷണം കഴിച്ചു.അടുത്ത് ആറു പേരെ മതം മാറ്റി.നീലേശ്വരത്ത് നിന്ന് പിടിച്ച രണ്ടു നായന്മാരെയും കൊടുവള്ളിയിൽ നിന്ന് പിടിച്ച നാല് തീയരെയും ആ കിണറിനടുത്ത് വാൾ കൊണ്ട് വെട്ടിക്കൊല്ലുന്നത് ഞാൻ കണ്ടു.
വെള്ളക്കിരി കുറ്റിപ്പുറത്ത് ഗോപാലൻ നായർ,പുത്തുർ,ഏറനാട്:
സെപ്റ്റംബർ 24 രാത്രി എട്ടോടെ ഏതാണ്ട് 300 മാപ്പിളമാർ വീട്ടിലെത്തി.കരുണാകരൻ നായർ കത്തിയും വടിയും വാളുമായി പുറത്ത് വന്ന് മാപ്പിളമാരുമായി ഏറ്റുമുട്ടി.നാലു പേരെ കൊന്നു;ചിലർക്ക് പരുക്കേറ്റു.ഗേറ്റിലേക്ക് ഓടിയ അദ്ദേഹത്തിൻറെ തലയിലേക്ക് ഒരു മാപ്പിള എറിഞ്ഞ കുന്തം കഴുത്തിൽ കുത്തിക്കയറി.അദ്ദേഹം മരിച്ചു.എല്ലാം മാപ്പിളമാർ കൊള്ളയടിച്ചു.എൻറെ മൂന്ന് വീടുകൾ കൊള്ള ചെയ്തു.ഒരു വീട് ചാരമാക്കി.ഞങ്ങളുടെ ക്ഷേത്രം തകർത്തു.60 ഹിന്ദുക്കളെ മതം മാറ്റി.വേങ്ങരയിലെ മറ്റു രണ്ടു ക്ഷേത്രങ്ങളും തകർത്തു.പശുക്കളെ കൊന്നു.
കൈപ്പാടത്ത് കുഞ്ഞുണ്ണി നായർ,കൊടുവായൂർ,ഏറനാട്:
ഇവിടെ 50 ഹിന്ദു വീടുകളിൽ മൂന്നെണ്ണം കത്തിച്ചു.ബാക്കിയുള്ളവ നാശമാക്കി.ഏഴു പേരെ കൊന്നു.50 പേരെ മതം മാറ്റി.അഞ്ചു ക്ഷേത്രവും തകർത്തു.അഞ്ച് യുവതികളെ ബലാൽസംഗം ചെയ്തു.
"Chathunni Nair, Puthur, Kozhikode:
On September 28, the Mappilams came home. We ran away. They tied my hands. The neighbor did the same to the cowherd in the manger. They took him to the well in Nagalikkau Paramba west of Mutumana Illam, cut him and threw him into the well. I agreed to join Islam. I recited some verses from the Qur'an and had food. Six people were converted. I saw two Nayans captured from Nileswaram and four Theis captured from Koduvalli being killed with swords near that well.
Gopalan Nair at Vellakiri Kuttipuram, Puthur, Ernad:
About 300 Mappilas came home at 8pm on September 24. Karunakaran Nair came out with a knife, stick and sword and clashed with the Mappilas. Four people were killed and some were injured. He ran to the gate and a spear thrown by a Mappila hit him in the neck. He died. The Mappilas looted everything. They looted my three houses. A house was burnt to ashes. Our temple was destroyed. 60 Hindus were converted. Two other temples in Vengara were also destroyed. Cows were killed.
"Kaipadat Kunjunni Nair, Koduvayur, Ernad:
Here, three out of 50 Hindu houses were burnt, the rest were destroyed, seven people were killed, 50 people were converted, five temples were destroyed, five young women were raped.[1][2][3]
Ningalonnichpovuka (talk) 06:27, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- Ningalonnichpovuka, no. See WP:HISTRS. TrangaBellam (talk) 07:00, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- ok, thanks for guidance. I have gone through it and read that fully.
- I have understand that adding news report from international prominent news paper is fine, as a historical point of view, as already one news report of Variyan kunnen is added in the article.
- So i will be adding these news reports alone. Ningalonnichpovuka (talk) 17:01, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
The phrase "rebellion suppressed" in the infobox should be "rebellion ceased"
editWe see , not † against the names of leaders of the rebellion in the infobox. Actually rebels have surrendered. The rebels were also captured. That is how the rebellion was "suppressed". So there was no such a suppression literally. The word "suppression" here is misleading. This should be replaced with "rebellion ceased". Moreover several names are seen added in the infobox which were not in the infobox for a long time. It should be considered removing their names if they have not led the rebellion. M. P. Naraya Menon advocated for non-violence; hence cannot be considered as a leader of the rebellion. Neutralhappy (talk) 02:00, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
Moreover Variyankunnath Kunjahammad Haji had disbanded his army on 18 December 1921. So again there was no suppression of the rebellion. Neutralhappy (talk) 02:38, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
@Kautilya3, you might be able to solve this problem. Neutralhappy (talk) 02:46, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
The First paragraph
editThere should be a change in the first paragraph for the sentence "The British had appointed high caste Hindus in positions of authority to get their support, this led to the protest turning against the Hindus.[1][better source needed]"
To :
The British used diivide and rule policy which led to viewing the rebellion as against Hindus, though rebels had turned against pro-British government Mappilas and Hindus alike. Neutralhappy (talk) 02:20, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
@Kautilya3, you might be able to solve this problem. Neutralhappy (talk) 02:46, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Fact checking BJP's Kummanam Rajasekharan: Was the Malabar rebellion a case of Jihad?". The Indian Express. 2017-10-12.: “[The uprising] started as a protest against British authorities so it was part of the freedom struggle.
Remove the word popular
editI would like to change this sentence in first paragraph from "The popular uprising was also against the prevailing feudal system controlled by elite Hindus." to "The uprising was also against the prevailing feudal system controlled by elite Hindus."
I am unable to locate the origin of popular word in the citations, please correct me if wrong. And even then the popular seems to be abstract way to measure any rebellion and/or uprising or any historical event.
Pbeditwiki (talk) 19:31, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- The use of the word 'popular' in this context is not meant to measure the rebellion, but rather to indicate that the uprising was carried out by people. Malayala Sahityam (talk) 22:14, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Done!
- Rebellion is carried out by people , it's a obvious fact! Afv12e (talk) 01:46, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 15 August 2023
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What started as a revolt against khilafat movement, suddenly changed into a hindu massacre and ethic cleansing mode. Sankaracharyaswamigal (talk) 11:58, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:25, 15 August 2023 (UTC)