Talk:Manowar

Copyvio

The source for the copyvio is [1]. Meelar 05:05, 17 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Dave Shankle in Chicago

I think someone should delete the bit about Dave Shankle playing in the band Chicago, as this never happened. - Paulo

Loudest band source

what is the source for the loudest band record? I checked the guinness website and didn't find them listed, but I couldn't find a loudest band listing either...Misfit 06:03, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

well as far as I know, you need to ask for a independent observer from Guinness. They have just played it and probably sound technician observed and measured it. They are just loud, I don't think they have any interest in making it official Guinness Record. See the show... --Jack in the box 22:06, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps then the claim "...the band entered the records..." should be reworded. What records? and kept by who? 203.132.66.236 11:37, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

They were in the guiness book of world records for quite a few years, however guiness decided to stop using the record in their books, because of the danger to people's hearing, therefore there will never be anybody that breaks ther record. - Paulo

I saw them the year they got the Loudest Band title but at a different venue . I was at the Apollo Manchester stood at the front right opposite a massive tower of Speakers !!!! My ears rang for a week or so & it was about 22 years or so ago on the 'Sign of the Hammer' tour '84 I think. Now it may be nothing but then it was something else.-FRANK 20 Oct 2006

Narration on King of Kings

I'm pretty sure it's not Christopher Lee narrating on the recent single "King of Kings" but rather Joey DeMaio with some effects on his voice. Edwardc 14:50, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Rhino's real name

As mentioned in the Italian version of the article, Rhino's real name is Kenny Earl Edwards. Iod 01:58, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Fancruft?

"Following this, Manowar joined a new label, signing their contracts in blood."

"The second album Into Glory Ride was the first to feature Scott Columbus on drums. Because of his viciousness behind the drums, standard kits simply collapsed. Custom stainless steel kits had to be built just for him."

This sounds ludicrous to me. At best, if it's actually true then it's worded poorly... 203.132.66.236 11:41, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Maybe you should ask the guy who makes the drums for him, his name is Dawk Stillwell, you can speak to him via his website. www.dawksound.com - paulo

Actually, the man who built the Drums of Death System (renamed "Drums of Doom" after the song) was an electronics genius named Vince Gutman of MARC Industries.

The Drums of Doom consisted of a Stainless Steel drumkit with two 28" diameter kick drums, 15" diameter mounted tom, with 18" and 20" diameter floor toms, and an electronic triggering system - Also, Scott Columbus of Manowar was the first Rock/Metal drummer to use Electronic/Digital Drums.

POV, yes. You may modify it, if you want to. I doubt anybody will complain. --Sn0wflake 19:47, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Regarding signing their contracts in blood, here is a url pointing to some scans from Kerrang! 47 : http://www.robhalford.com/quorum/showthread.php?threadid=55133 Edwardc 14:50, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

"Manowar is the only band allowed to play the drums of doom"??!? Huh? C Ruth 13:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC) I agree. What are the Drums of Doom? I have vague recollections of seeing a reference to these on the notes to a Manowar album (probably Fighting the World) but what exactly are they?81.86.69.103 12:12, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Aren't the Drums of Doom a stainless steel kit made especially for Scott Columbus and then handed over the Rhino on Scott's departure. They were supposedly better able to cope with heavy handed drummers. Poor Rhino (after burning his own kit when joining Manowar), had to hand back the Drums of Doom to Scott when he re-joined! R011ingthunder 02:04, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

For the Record, the Drums of Doom were actually a Custom Made Ludwig Stainless Steel Kit - you can tell from the Tuning Lugs and the Spurs/Legs of the Kick Drums.

"Satanic" lyrical influences?

Some perceive Manowar to be "satanic" in lyrical orientation. The vast majority of their lyrics are, of course, "sword and sorcery," though many of the lyrics on their first album were about Vietnam.

The only overtly "satanic" songs I can recall to memory are "Bridge Of Death" and "The Demon's Whip". I remember a 1984 Kerrang! interview with Joey DeMaio where he said that "Bridge of Death" is "the ultimate Satanic song...it goes one step beyond Venom and Mercyful Fate...hopefully they'll now top that and force us to come up with something even more stunning!"

I'm assuming that these lyrics are just for "shock value"...such an obviously imaginative band is capable of far more than tired satanic dreck.--MarshallStack 04:29, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

They are paganistic lyrics for the most part. Although I've heard "Revelations" called Satanic in fact the narrative therein comes straight from the Book of Revelations in the Bible. And you have to admit that it fits the whole defiance of The Man theme that Manowar projects in some of their songs. Although other songs contain references to demons etc, many traditions contain such creatures. History of the Devil is a fascinating book by a respected scholar detailing the various traditions appropriated by monotheism as societal complexity grew. I know that in the intro to cultural anthropology course I took, many of the students were of the very vocal opinion that anything not rooted strictly in Christian doctrine is by definition satanic, that sort of pov is neither scholarly or helpful in analyzing influences and perspectives. I would argue that reference to such criticisms should also include a full explanation of the reactionary nature of neopaganism to institutional attempts at redefining masculinity, femininity and passion in self-identity. In other words, these guys are pure testosterone and one of their concerts is a huge auditory phallus, and you gotta go back to where the maypole and the Easter Bunny came from to appreciate much of their imagery. To many people particularly in the US, that automatically means it's satanic. "Bridge of Death" is the only unapologetically satanic song I've seen from them and it's such an outlier I'd say it was written to upset someone who took offense to something else earlier. "Demon's Whip" uses lines like "Armies of the gods of hell ride across the Astral Plane" which makes it sound more like a generic sort of description of religion (good vs evil) written from the perspective of the underdog, or perhaps someone whose Neutral Evil fighter was just made an Anti-Paladin in an AD&D campaign.70.225.134.79 (talk) 05:01, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Information Procedence

one of the band's performances was measured at 129.5 decibels.

Is this correct? This number is above the Threshold of pain.

Over a lengthy career MANOWAR, having held the Guinness Book of World Records honour of "World’s loudest band" being captured at a mind numbing 129.5 dB, have steadfastly refused to compromise and as such have built up a staunch fanbase. Taken from the bands bio on the RockDetector web-site here: http://www.rockdetector.com/officialbio,5585.sm As far as I know, they've held it twice on two separate occasions, but due to the fact that this is a potentially hazardous record to break Guinness have stopped recognising it. Now I believe a neo-punk band from the UK have it (unofficially, of course!). I don't have the reference for this to hand. R011ingthunder 02:45, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes that 129.5 db's is correct. They actually cracked the walls of one of the venues that they played in from the sheer volume. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.218.195.37 (talk) 20:23, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

R011ingthunder, i presume is correct in that guinness dont recognize such claims now. So every second band out there claims to be the loudest (which includes the neo punk band R011ingthunder talks about)...there is very little possibility of there being any verifiable claims as to which is the loudest band on the planet with guinness refusing to recognize these claims... The official Manowar site does refer to the 129.5 db statistic, though.Leif edling (talk) 05:55, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Discography Cleanup

I suggest that someone should clean up the discography and make separate lists for full length albums, EPs and DVDs. --IronChris 17:04, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I broke it down into a few categories and added some missing entries as well. Iod 01:49, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to see the Manowar Kills and Steel Warriors releases referenced. I'm not altogether sure they are legitimate cds. Aren't they bootlegs? R011ingthunder 02:06, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Band logo

someone can fix the band logo, and make it transparent?? --Neo139 16:20, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

style

just heavy metal or power metal too? they certainly have power metal themes TheKaplan 07:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC) They are clearly Heavy Metal (See True Metal), in the last album "Warriors of the World" they have a litle Power Metal influence because Joey DeMaio is the manager of Rhapsody, so they got influenced, like Rhapsody got Influenced in "Power of the Dragonflame" (the heaviest rhapsody album) because of this union. But they are still Heavy Metal, True fucking Heavy Metal. --Neo139 20:23, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Manowar under influence of Rhapsody?!Hah.Come on you must be kidding.And about this style discussions: Manowar make "heavy metal" no need to be more spesific than this.because they always identify themselves as the pioneers of heavy metal.--Fenasi Kerim 20:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Just listen de EP Son of Odins and you will know what im talking about, Manowar is now symphonic heavy metal--190.16.168.102 03:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Manowar have been influenced many times through the years (NWOBHM on Battle Hymns, Speed Metal on Sign of the Hammer, and Kings of Metal, and Symphonic Metal on Gods of War. Every band is influenced by other music unless they live in isolation. It's what they do with this influence that matters. R011ingthunder 02:09, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

The term "Power Metal" was Coined by John Zazula (aka "Johnnie Z.") of Megaforce Records,Inc. to describe Manowar back in the early 80's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.218.195.37 (talk) 20:32, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Manowar were already Power Metal before they met Rhapsody. Their early albums are 'proto-power metal', if anything it was Power Netal that was influenced by Manowar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.186.150 (talk) 07:36, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

True Metal

We should merge True Metal article with this article. --Neo139 20:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah certainly. --Fenasi Kerim 20:44, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

We should make a new article about true metal. Cause it's mostly being used by those elitist assholes you can find at most metal forums. Theunknown42 03:37, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

In regards of what Manowar think of Black and death metal bands, Demaio said: I like all extreme metal, I like all death metal, I like black metal, I like all of that. As long as it's from the heart and it's pure and it's heavy, it's good. I don't like any of this nu metal shit, it's just complete shit.

This was from an interview in 2004 on the Official Dutch Manowar website http://home.wxs.nl/~verdoore/index4.htm

WHO WAS THE IDIOT WHO SAID THAT MANOWAR OS POWER METAL? AND WHO WAS THE MORON WHO SAID THAT MANOWAR HAS POWER METAL,HAS POWER METAL THEMES? ARE YOU RETARDED? POWER METAL WAS INVENTED BY HELLOWEEN YEARS AFTER MANOWAR EXISTED,POWER METAL IS A SPEED/MELODIC AND HAPPY METAL STYLE FROM GERMANY,LYRICS DOES NOT DEFINE THE GENRE...SO YOU LOSERS BETTER LEARN,MANOWAR LYRICS ARE VIKINGS AND TRU METAL. PLEASE SOMEONE REMOVED THAT MANOWAR IS POWER METAL...THANK YOU ;-)

Someone shut the caps lock kiddy up. Power Metal is simply an over the top version of heavy metal which evokes an epic feel. Manowar is most certainly epic especially in later albums, by definition Iron Maiden, Judas Priest and Manowar are all power metal. Yes what you like to call Power Metal was pioneered by Helloween. Also, there has been only 1 Manowar album with with a strong viking theme and that is the most recent one. --user

Hi i'm an Italian user, and i know that Manowar don't play power metal! They are an epic metal band, since they invented that genre with the album into glory ride. It's not the same. Umberto —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.48.112.24 (talk) 13:12, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

There is no a such genre called epic metal. Manowar is american power metal and thats all. Haxxiy (talk) 22:30, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

epic is an attribute that can be added to virtually any metal subgenre, e.g. Disillusion's first album is Epic death metal, Bathory has several Epic viking metal albums, etc etc... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.47.165.80 (talk) 13:21, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Manowar play Power Metal. Heavy/Power Metal to be precise. Many consider Battle Hymns to be the first Power Metal album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.186.150 (talk) 07:37, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Revelation (Death's Angel)

I don't think we should merge this article with the Revelation (Death's Angel) article. Its a stub article song i know, but someone will expand it later. --Neo139 05:07, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Drums of Doom

Manowar is the only band allowed to play the "Drums of Doom". ("biography", third paragraph) This sounds pretty cryptic to me - what does it mean? What are the "Drums of Doom"? What means "allowed" in this connection? -- marilyn.hanson 09:39, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

The Drums of Death system was designed by Vince Gutman of MARC Industries. Gutman lives in Woodstock, New York. He is an Electronics Whiz who specializes in Digital Sound, and is well known for reworked Simmons Electronic Drums - back in the 80's, Simmons drums were those hexagon shaped elctric drums from England - the problem is, they were pieces of crap - that is, until Vince Gutman got his hands on them. He does all sorts of specialty designs, and he is most well known for designing the Drums of Deat h system for Manowar, which featured a Ludwig Stainless Steel drumkit and an electronics drum system.

Blow your speakers

I watched a vid at VH1 that clearly said:
Manowar
Blow your speakers

I am not a fan of heavy metal, so i kindly ask somebody smarter in this area to help about this question. West Brom 4ever 19:12, 12 October 2006 (UTC) Yes, that's a song from Manowar--190.16.168.102 01:47, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Requested move to Manowar

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. -GTBacchus^(talk) 22:23, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

Manowar (band) → Manowar — It's the only article using this spelling of this expression. Page already contains a disambiguation page link for spelling variants. DAB page is already moved to Manowar (disambiguation) — edgarde 19:26, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

• Clarification: Manowar is currently a redirect because I have moved it to Manowar (disambiguation). — edgarde 17:18, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Survey

Add  * '''Support'''  or  * '''Oppose'''  on a new line followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.

• Support, considering it is the only entry using this spelling, and Manowar is just a redirect anyway. IronChris | (talk) 16:27, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support. --Piet Delport 23:40, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

Add any additional comments:

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Petition

On the 27th of November two Manowar fans from the UK began a petition to get the band to tour the UK again. After 24 hours over 180 signatures have already been collected. UK Manowar fans please take a second to sign the petition and bring the band back to the country that gave them their first break! The petition can be found here http://www.petitiononline.com/man0war1/petition.html

Cheers to everyone who signs - keep the dream alive! \m/

True Metal

Shouldn't there be a separate article for "True Metal"? The section in this article concerns mostly the band's view of the term. However, this term is used by many other people and I think it has sufficient meaning to have its own separate article. I'm thinking probably keeping the section here and putting some little note saying: "See also: True Metal" or "Main Article: True Metal". What do you people think? --Zouavman Le Zouave 10:32, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I think it's gonna be tough to make an article called "true metal" and keep it neutral... I mean, true metal doesn't exist, you can't make a "list of true metal bands". It'll just be something like "Manowar describes true metal as...", or "Cannibal Corpse describes ture metal as...". Then what'll happen is that a load of unregistered users will add comments like "death to false metal", the article will be nominated AFD and will be deleted on the grounds that it is biased and a non notable term.

Anyway, if you want to put it to the test go ahead, but I seriously doubt that it'll survive AFD. I for one will vote for its deletion, unless you can come up with a really great article with plenty of material that I don't know about.

On a different note, it's a bit crazy that true metal redirects to Manowar... I know they like to use that term, but still, isn't that a form of POV? IronChris | (talk) 15:53, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

A separate article about True Metal would only be warranted if you have a source to cite; Wikipedia doesn't do original research. --Piet Delport 15:48, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, you have a point... It was by typing "True Metal" in the search bar that I found the Manowar article, and at first I found it kind of weird. Anyways, thanks for the feedback ^^ --Zouavman Le Zouave 17:41, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I'd say having true metal point to Manowar is fine, since they created the term, really. The only "correct" view of the term is really simply the way they described it, since DeMaio pretty much coined it. As someone else said, the term on a separate page would just attract POV. And it did exist before, and was redirected to here anyway. --Ryouga 00:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

In theory you could have an article about the phenomenon of the phrase "death to false metal", which is widespread in a tongue-in-cheek way. But as one of the contributors above points out, it would probably degenerate into a series of lists whereby metal artist X disses metal artist Y, on and on and on. Even if it was properly sourced, e.g. "in an interview for Rolling Stone magazine in February 2006, X described Y as false metal, and stressed that the notes he was about to play would fly like arrows of death straight into the chest of Y" it would be turgid. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 00:26, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Gods of war and tour dates

Hello !

This is my first wiki contribution so if I did anything wrong plz tell me.Also my english kinda suck so please correct any mistakes that I might have made.I added to the article some info about gods of war(which I am gonna change after the album is finally released) and i have also added the current tour dates !!! Jberedim 19:36, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Cleaned up biography part

The biography part contained a lot of outdated information on the next album. Since it is already out, I removed that information and replaced it with a link on the new album. I believe that the removal of other information is no loss, since both the EP and the DVD that were mentioned there before are mentioned in the discography. Funny fact: The album was already listed in the discography, but it seems no one was willing to remove two full paragraphs and leave only one sentence. Call it practicing to be bold. Or revert it. But I think the information (can still be found in [2])I removed might better be placed on the Gods of War page, in case someone wants to keep it. Tierlieb 20:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Orson Welles?

Anyone know how on earth Manowar got Orson Welles to appear on their album? 04:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

   I can't say for sure, but I have heard his grand daughter was an early fan.

The daughter idea seems unlikely, Orson was on the first album on 'Dark Avenger'.

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Genre in infobox

Please refer to Template:Infobox musical artist: the genre listed in the infobox should aim for generality.

True metal, as far as this is concerned, is a subjective statement, not an actual music genre: it should be discussed in the article, not added to the infobox. --Piet Delport 05:24, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

How do you pronounce Manowar?

Specifically, where is the stress? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nyelvmark (talk • contribs) 2007-07-06 16:10:32

I believe it's MAN oh war -- SHODAN 20:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Judging from the song "Manowar", I'd agree with SHODAN. --Moose 21:26, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but MAHN oh War would probably sound even cooler.--76.23.230.214 20:46, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

External link

I would like to add a link to the MythiMedia research project (Bologna University, Italy) http://www.mythimedia.org/. The project explores the presence of Greek mythology in today's culture, and contains an article entitled "Achilles in the Age of Metal", dealing with the song "Achilles, Agony and Ecstasy" (http://www.mythimedia.org/Achilles_age_of_metal.html) [this is the address that should be linked], as well as other information about the band Manowar. The site is written in English. Fallingdrapery 23:48, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Looks like a great link! The main band article is probably not the best place, but it should make an excellent reference for The Triumph of Steel. —Piet Delport 20:39, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Ethan Mays???

Right, I've followed Manowar's career fairly closely, and even watched (on DVD) while they brought past members on stage during their recent convention, but I've NEVER heard of this guy. He now has his own wikipage which does not qualify for any Wiki standards as far as I can see. Anyone clarify this situation for me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by R011ingthunder (talk • contribs) 01:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

• I removed it till someone can prove his existence. --Will Decay (talk) 13:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Influnced and influences

COuld someone add a a little chart showing who influenced this great band and who ths great band has inspired? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.188.198.79 (talk) 17:03, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Karl Kennedy / Carl Canedy

The first appears in the Timeline box (nice touch by the way), and the second appears as an early drummer. Assuming that they are the same person, can someone decide which is the correct spelling? Also, the mythological Ethan Mays doesn't appear in the Timeline box. I ask the question again, does this guy exist, and did he ever play for Manowar (even live?), and if so, has someone got a source for it?r011in (talk) 21:27, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Also, the link from the Timeline to Karl Kennedy is wrong, it links to some soap opera character.r011in (talk) 21:37, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Silent Night Cover

They covered Silent Night as you can see here here. - Spock 15:12, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Influence on Bathory

I have added a paragraph dealing with Manowar's influence on the Swedish band Bathory.

The source is this interview:

http://www.anus.com/metal/about/interviews/quorthon/

I think Manowar should be given credit for being the first real pioneers "Viking" and "Epic" Metal.

I just don't know how to do the hyperlinks. I am going over to the Bathory page to spread the word.

True metal ?

First; sorry for my english - im european

Manowar formed the True metal wich is mostly classic heavy metal with power influences&lyrics (and symphonic/classic) True metal stands not for "its the best an only one" how many are thinking, it is more a revive of classic/oldschool heavy metal and they Manowar first said on "hail to England" album "We are Manowar. We are invincible. Death to False Metal. Hail to England" wich can be interprated as they are playing the "true" metal on their following albums was often the statement with the true classic heavy metal and death to the false metal (Hairspray Metal, Nu Metal und Crossover)in order to keep the musical niveau (does this exist in eng.?) With the "kings of metal" album. they called their fans "true metal people" since then the notion became etablished Wacken open air also has a "true metal stage"

Manowar also said that heavy metal came from classic music

True metal lyrics are about fighting , honor etc and often dragons&wizards fantasy

True metal is a living adjustment for really true metal fans "If you are not into metal , you are not my friend" Against posers and false metal "Whimps and posers - get out leave the hall" are the parols also to really respect every fan of real metal

"Brothers of metal" is a keyword - u also could add it to manowar fan descriptions

Often are true metal bands&Manowar called posers because they think that they`re saying their the only one and best metal but this isnt the sense of "true metal"

True metal bands self named

   * Metal Force
   * Manowar
   * Stormwarrior
   * Teräsbetoni
   * Unrest
   * Wizard

fan named

   * Grave Digger
   * Hammerfall
   * Iron Fire
   * Virgin Steele

Hope I could help

most is from german wiki

Even though i dont think this should be an article, the band Cage often mention playing 'True Metal' in their songs, and in an interview Wojtek from Lost Horizon says they play 'True Progressive Metal' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.186.150 (talk) 07:42, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

You forgot the true metal thing

forgot to say —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.64.5.241 (talk) 07:43, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

WTF

There is no such thing as "true metal". Heavy metal is so diverse that such a term is impossible. Stop bringing it up. 86.43.178.17 (talk) 16:29, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Scott Columbus' absence in 2008 and 2009

On Dawk Stillwell's website forum (he's Manowar's engineer since the beginning) he answered a question on Scott Columbus' absence. His response: "DAWK SAYS:

HE'S LOST ALL OF HIS FAMILY IN THE LAST YEAR...

HE FELT THAT HIS MIND WOULD NOT BE ON HIS PERFORMANCE...

HE'LL BE BACK............

I THINK RHINO DID A INCREDIBLE JOB... ;D

YOURS,,, JOHNDAWKSTILLWELL... "

Considering that in studio they are using what appears to be loops and Donnie Hamzik will be this year's tour drummer it may be quite some time before Scott Columbus finds his way back to Manowar, if ever.

http://www.dawksound.com/home.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.164.190.25 (talk) 23:57, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Remove "power" metal

I see a post from 2006 stating that the part "Manowar is an American Power metal band" is not true. It is indeed not true, listen once to dragonforce and you know what powermetal is. Manowar is (true) heavy metal. Change the page please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.250.36.121 (talk) 18:09, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Uhhg, okay Dragonforce's sound is NOT IN ANYWAY the definition of power metal. Seriously listen to ANY other power metal band and you'll see that not every band sounds like that, many bands sound fairly different. Dragonforce are power metal but they aren't the definition of the genre! Anyways the point is, Wikipedia is about reliable sources and not personal opinion. And well, whether or not you disagree with it reliable sources state that Manowar are power metal. Ximmerman (talk) 01:30, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I think there's just too many "metal genres" period. I think genres are only good in the event that they are useful for categorizing music, so they have to actually mean something. Bands are never pidgeon-holed into specific styles, and all bands should have a pretty wide range. Maybe these genres could be a on a song-by-song basis, but when talking about an entire band's career, I think it's better to keep it simple. The to me seems to be: what label should Manowar have so that "outsiders" would understand what the music might sound like in case they're interested? I think "Metal" or "Heavy Metal" is the most appropriate overall. "Power Metal" is a moving target also, if you ask me. Angelo (talk · contribs) 20:54, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Manowar play Heavy Metal/American Power Metal, which is totally different to the less heavy, more melodic European Power Metal. Listen to other American Power Metal bands such as Jag Panzer, Virgin Steele and Manilla Road and you will see. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.186.150 (talk) 07:39, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

The New album

The name of the new album is "The Asgard Saga" http://www.asgard-saga.com/ (Heimdall58 (talk) 00:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC))

Regarding Scotts departure and how the main page suggests that the ill child was a lie.

Interview with Scott Columbus Published by : vampire-magazine.com Interviewer : Toby Published on : December 2002

Can you tell me the story about the departure after "Kings Of Metal" when Rhino came in?

Scott: I have children and one was very sick It’s very simple, you make a decision that I couldn’t very well make a record and touring and worrying about what’s going on home. I took that time to handle that situation. A friend of mine Rhino, a nice fellow and very good. Then when Manowar was gun showing with the "Triumph Of Steel Tour" and getting ready to make a new record. He said how is the situation at home. I said it’s fine you don’t have to worry anymore. I offered him to make a record tour in 1995 and he said it was OK.

Was it an agreement, before that Rhino was a temporary replacement?

Scott: Yes… —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.5.57.242 (talk) 00:18, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Cause of death

"His cause of death is still uncertain.[16]" The linked article says no word about the cause of death, so we don't know if it's uncertain or not. 81.183.149.160 (talk) 19:16, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

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Influences

The list of bands which cite Manowar, as an influence appears to be correct in the sense that each one is justified by an external source, but seems to me wildly excessive in length. I would much rather see only the most notable bands included there. I don’t know how one would judge this notability, and I am not versed enough in the scene to make the decisions myself. However, a good starting point could be the removal of every band without Wikipedia page. I still think it would be excessive in length!

Tastarte (talk) 07:50, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Wildly excessive indeed. Also, I'm not sure if simply having external sources qualifies as justification for listing all these bands. A few would suffice. But like you, I cannot judge which ones are most notable, so I went ahead with your suggestion to remove all the bands that did not even have a Wikipedia entry, plus the few that did not mention a source. MichielN (talk) 15:34, 12 November 2024 (UTC)