Talk:Maria Trubnikova/GA1

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Reviewer: Shushugah (talk · contribs) 15:19, 24 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Beginning review

Hello Ganesha811 thank you for reviewing so many Articles! I want to recognize that and look forward to reviewing your article. Please let me know if you're available to make improvements this week/month. I know It's busy holiday for many people, so I tend to keep this review open until 15 January 2024 if that works for you? Cheers! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 15:19, 24 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for picking this up! I should have time beginning the 27th to respond to comments and make improvements. —Ganesha811 (talk) 15:23, 24 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

All three images are appropriately licensed and captioned

Please specify the country Russia when mentioning birth city, it is not obvious that Krai is in Russia (can wiki link to Russian Empire

Done - fixed.

Use full name for Princess Khovanskaia/Khovanskaya and perhaps the following painting File:Levitzky Khruscheva Khovanskaya.jpg

Partially done - added her initials, but I think the painting isn't relevant enough to be added, especially as it shows the Princess as a child, many years before Trubnikova was born.

More clarity is needed with this paragraph liberal sympathies, and took his name (in feminine form, Trubnikova). He wooed her, according to Stites, by "reading passages of Herzen" to her.

Specifically we don't learn why or what his liberal sympathies mean for her (it compliments her feminist views) and we should know that Stite is a historian/scholar. Similarly; Herzen is a contemporary radical Russian thinker.

Adjusted the sentence and the next few accordingly. Stites is mentioned earlier in the paragraph. Let me know if the changes are sufficient! —Ganesha811 (talk) 13:52, 28 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Shushugah, thanks for your comments so far. Any others, as we approach the 15th? —Ganesha811 (talk) 01:53, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Ganesha811 please WP:Trout me. I was searching for different sources with limited success, got sidetracked and distracted. Finishing it up.

I could not find the specific pages 584-587 in "A Biographical Dictionary of Women's Movements and Feminisms"^[1], but on page 527 it corroborates her involvement in 1861 in the Society for Cheap Lodging and Other Aid to the Residents of St Petersburg).
Confirmed sources found in (and added google book url for ease). I would however add caveat/explanation that she would be considered feminist in contemporary terms, but back then they were addressing the "woman question" (page 72) and progressive agendas. Also, ^[1] says she founded "Society for Cheap Lodging.." in 1861, while source^[2] clarifies it was founded in 1859 but chartered in 1861. I don't have strong opinion, but it shows a consistency despite two different years being used.

All in all, I will mark this GAN as Good Article status. It is strictly not required, but would be nice to make use of {{rp}} page templates to make it easier to find/verify specific source claims. And where possible, to link to google books, as many of these books are not available in the Wikipedia:Library, as well as include page ranges in general for entire book source that is used. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 09:27, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your review! I will make changes to account for these suggestions. You can likely access pages 584-87 in the source via the Internet Archive, if you make an account and borrow the book (for free). It's Trubnikova's own entry. I will make sure page numbers are available for all sources. —Ganesha811 (talk) 14:18, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

LEDE is focused and meaningfully summarizes most important elements of article
Body is engaging/relevant without any excessive details

References

^ ^a ^b Novikova, Natalia (2006). de Haan, Francisca; Daskalova, Krassimira; Loutfi, Anna (eds.). A Biographical Dictionary of Women's Movements and Feminisms: Central, Eastern, and South Eastern Europe, 19th and 20th Centuries. Central European University Press. pp. 584–587. ISBN 978-615-5053-72-6.
^ Ruthchild, Rochelle G. (2009). "Reframing public and private space in mid-nineteenth century Russia : the triumvirate of Anna Filosofova, Nadezhda Stasova, and Mariia Trubnikova". In Worobec, Christine D. (ed.). The human tradition in imperial Russia. The human tradition around the world. Lanham, Md.: Rowman & Littlefield. p. 69–83. ISBN 978-0-7425-3737-8.

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[:1-1] Novikova, Natalia (2006). de Haan, Francisca; Daskalova, Krassimira; Loutfi, Anna (eds.). A Biographical Dictionary of Women's Movements and Feminisms: Central, Eastern, and South Eastern Europe, 19th and 20th Centuries. Central European University Press. pp. 584–587. ISBN 978-615-5053-72-6.

[:3-2] Ruthchild, Rochelle G. (2009). "Reframing public and private space in mid-nineteenth century Russia : the triumvirate of Anna Filosofova, Nadezhda Stasova, and Mariia Trubnikova". In Worobec, Christine D. (ed.). The human tradition in imperial Russia. The human tradition around the world. Lanham, Md.: Rowman & Littlefield. p. 69–83. ISBN 978-0-7425-3737-8.

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