Talk:Marion Carll Farm

A constructive suggestion respectfully submitted concerning this page & Marion Carll Farm itself

It seems that the people who are rightly indignant about the condition of this treasure (places like this were fairly common on Long Island several decades ago, but not now) were hoping to use this page to gain contacts and support for their campaign. They could have been done this through a simple link to their own organization; there may also be sensible ways to let readers know there is a longstanding ongoing petition campaign. Facts about efforts to preserve the place can certainly be included in the text of the article, without breaking rules; a balanced article might include some objective reporting on obstacles and expenses that have so far stymied restoration. But the reason I'm writing is to suggest a more creative approach than just browbeating the LIU etc (from what I've heard they no less scandalously neglect and waste their own amazing resources on their main campus, as do many other universities no doubt)... Here's the deal: All the resources of Long Island educational institutions of all kinds could be mobilized in this effort, in ways that would not interfere significantly with LIU's own plan (to use innocent animals for practice in surgeries, medications etc?). Doesn't Suffolk County BOCES do vocational training in construction trades? How about Suffolk Community College, or other parts of LIU itself? Some serious architecture and engineering programs (among the best in the world?) are at nearby Cooper Union, Pratt Institute, and maybe NYU etc. Think of the aesthetic and historical value, inside and out, of not only the big beautiful main farmhouse and all its many outbuildings, but also their relationship with the lands and its natural vegetation—-native plants from indigenous Long Island ecosystems--and the near-miraculous survival of this property as nearly all its surroundings have been paved over and commercialized into sterility and mediocrity. Just the soil alone, untouched so far by farm or lawn chemicals, is almost a living museum and a heritage preserved. Students and teachers of architecture, engineering, construction, restoration, ecology and agriculture etc etc would be very proud of their involvement in this project, if only responsible oversight could be organized. Real estate developers, antique dealers, etc would obviously have to be kept on a very very tight leash, but they too might have a role to play as long as it's not their usual looting and bulldozing! The Smithtown and/or Huntington (or Suffolk County?) Historical Societies could surely contribute motivation and expertise, as well as community networks. If there are any trustworthy departments or agencies within town or county or state governments, they too might be very useful. It would be crucial to emphasize ALL aspects of this property in a well-planned project. Everything! Soil quality... Agricultural buildings, residential architecture, construction techniques, vintage materials... Vegetation and wildlife, including trees, weeds, remnants of old plantings, birds, insects... Its possible use as a religious retreat, a conference center or some kind of small hotel, if any of those uses could be accommodated without destructive trashy renovations. All of it is worth preserving, and doing so while serving diverse educational, social, scientific and even commercial purposes is not all that far out of reach. Suppose, for example, that a budget for full and historically impeccable restoration of the farmhouse might come to something daunting like maybe $10 million. Well, consider the educational, historic, social value that could be generated by (extracted from) that process... Consider the hidden costs of not doing it. It can be packaged and sold and win support, but it can succeed only if there are like-minded, level-headed, smart, experienced, scrupulously honest and deeply committed people in charge, willing to seek and accept advice, savvy enough to spot phonies, etc etc... good luck 67.81.65.206 (talk) 22:35, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

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Gallery of Marion Carll Farm

I found a slide of pictures at MSN's Step inside this abandoned old house untouched for 40 years Rjluna2 (talk) 11:54, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

that link is old https://web.archive.org/web/20190430053610/https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/home-and-garden/step-inside-this-abandoned-old-house-untouched-for-40-years/ss-BBWl6vG?ocid=spartandhp

I was looking at archive.today but there is no archive of it there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrdeleted (talk • contribs) 01:16, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

District owners neglect

Established in 1701 - Marion Carll Farm Commack, NY includes an 1860 Mansion that has been allowed to decay over the last ten years to its current deplorable condition. Marion Carll herself whose descendants owned the property for almost three-hundred years, willed the property to Commack Public Schools. Beyond a tarp placed on it's roof, there have been no other efforts made to protect this historic treasure from the elements for ten years. Currently the Farm is being leased to a University, also without any provisions in place to alter it's continued deterioration. Ms. Carll generously left this property to the residents of Commack in care of a neglectful benefactor. This Home is a registered historically Federally, and with the State of New York.