Talk:Mary Bono

Scientology

When did she become a Scientologist? I hadn't seen any mention of that until I read it here. --JamesB3 13:33, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Also, is she still a Scientologist (if she ever was)? -Willmcw 18:48, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Apparently she took a couple of classes, as do millions of people who never join Scientology. To label her thus seems an attempt to smear her and her late husband.Alcuin of York (talk) 12:40, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

What has she exactly done after graduating from college (1984) besides marrying a rich actor/artist?? Idots who have voted for her consistantly should be ashamed

Idiots? Unsigned person above, you appear to have no clue what "Neutral point of view" is, nor do you have any commitment to logical thinking. Please do not edit anything.Alcuin of York (talk) 12:40, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

The article says "she is one of the few Scientologist representatives." I'd be a bit surprised if there are any others. Are there? Jonathunder 04:23, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Good point. Personally, I am not aware of any others in Congress besides her and the late, unlamented Sonny.

Your use of the word "unlamented" is uncalled for. Pardon me but your venom is showing.Alcuin of York (talk) 12:40, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

P.MacUidhir (t) (c) 23:15, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

What's out source for her belief (past or current) in Scientology? -Will Beback 20:19, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Scientology magazine, Celebrity, listed both Sonny and Mary Bono as having taken numerous courses, such as one called Marriage. Mary Bono enrolled in at least six in 1989 and '90, including How to Improve and Financial Success. I can't find the reference online. Dominick ^(TALK) 21:01, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Some classes 15 years ago isn't enough to call her a current practitioner, and barely sufficient to call her a past practitioner. If we can't find a verifiable source for her current beliefs, the assertion should be removed. -Will Beback 21:10, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Mary Bono has distanced herself from Scientology, but so did Sonny. Sonny claimed to be Catholic whenever he listed or mentioned his religion, even though he was practicing Scientology at the time. This is not proof of belief, and the fact that she hasn't run any courses since 1990 and isn't listed in any of the groups directories says that she's gone inactivie. The only things favoring Scientology she's done since joining the House of Representatives is her support for extending Copyright, which Scientology needs to protect it's ownership of L. Ron's writings. Freddie Freelance

That bill also helps her and her children, grandchildren, etc. plus lots of people in her district who are retired creative types. Steve Dufour 01:32, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Mary Bono is not, and has never been a Scientologist.

You're an idiot source yourself you idiot we don't know who you are and if she is a Scientologist stupid idiot. 68.196.82.106 (talk) 20:38, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Assets, expenses

Unless there is an allegation of wrongdoing, details about the subject's personal wealth do not seem appropriate. I think we should mention that she receives significant royalty income because that is related to issues that come before Congress. But otherwise I think we should avoid too much financial detail, if for no other reasons then that it tends to unbalance the article and provides an implicit bias. -Will Beback 07:38, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

It seems to me that 69.11.55.120 (talk · contribs) wanted to give more information on the statement (which Bono made) that she is too destitute to put her son through college. I can see where he/she is coming from, although I do think that a detailed report of Bono's finances is excessive. Perhaps we can include a link to a site that contains this (public) information? --Asbl 11:21, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Mary Bono is a proponent of, and lobbys strongly for Eternal Copyrights, that once something is in Copyright it will never go out of Copyright & no one can ever use it without paying the authors' heirs, usually a coprporation. She pushed through the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act, also known as the Mickey Mouse Protection Act, to extend Copyright to the Author's life plus 70 years (for personal Copyright) or 95 years (for Corporately held Copyrights). To quote the article on the CTEA:

"In addition to Disney (whose extensive lobbying efforts inspired the nickname "The Mickey Mouse Protection Act"), California congresswoman Mary Bono (Sonny Bono's widow and Congressional successor) and the estate of composer George Gershwin supported the act. Mary Bono, speaking on the floor of the United States House of Representatives, noted that "Sonny wanted the term of copyright protection to last forever," but that since she was "informed by staff that such a change would violate the Constitution", Congress might consider Motion Pictures Association of America (MPAA) then-president Jack Valenti's proposal of a copyright term of "forever less one day.""

So her using the fact that she claims to be "Destitute" on only US$125,000/year as an excuse to support extending Copyright up to the Constitutionally allowed limits at the expence of the public's ability to freely exchange information makes listing this fact germane. Freddie Freelance

Where

is her opponents' list?

Thank You.

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Factoid

From the article: In a poll of Congressional aides, she was voted highest out of all Representatives on a list of who Looks Good in a Bathing Suit.

I know it's cited, but this is a rather silly (and sexist) factoid. Any objection to just removing it? Jonathunder 19:17, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Fine with me. It's not exactly "encyclopedic". -Will Beback · † · 20:57, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Voter Record Inconsistency

The article is inconsistent with regards to Congresswoman Bono's voting record. In the forth paragraph she is described as having a moderate to liberal voting record, while in the fifth paragraph she is described as voting conservatively. These two contradictory paragraphs should be reconciled. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.105.85.18 (talk) 20:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC).

District Comment

This comment "Mary Bono has a moderate-to-liberal voting record, which is somewhat surprising given that she represents one of the most Republican districts in California." is really not true. The district only leans Republican slightly. According to the 45th District Webpage the district voted for Bush 56% and has an partisan index of +3. Much lower then the other districts surrounding it. So in reality she is a moderate Republican in a district that leans slightly Republican. -Leahcim506

Not that I much care, I just stumbled across this page in the course of some casual research, but this whole pages seems more than a bit biased. Most of the article reads as a poorly veiled accusation of vague corruption. I don't know if articles about other US Reps are this shoddy, but it seems like this one needs some work. --128.186.236.226 23:16, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Poorly referenced entry for Mary Bono Mack. No citations even for her vote. The entire entry appears to have been written by her staff & hardly rises above a campaign press release. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.129.205.182 (talk) 10:13, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

"Real name"

An editor changed to to say that the subject's "real name" is actually "Mary Whitaker Bono McGillicuddy".[1] There was no source for this change, so I reverted it.   Will Beback  talk  21:52, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

This is actually a question worth considering. Her husband's name is McGillicuddy, so it makes sense that this would be her legal name. He chooses to go by Mack. Certainly his right, as it is hers to be Bono Mack. But he's legally McGillicuddy, not having chosen to change it. Do we have any reason to believe that, on deciding to adopt his last name in describing herself, Ms. Bono Mack adopted her husband's nickname as her legal name? Would it not be odd for her to adopt a different legal name than her husband in an effort to mark their married state? (FEC records list her as Bono Mack just as they do him as Mack, so that doesn't seem dispositive.) I've no brief for either name. I certainly reject the idea that any name other than the one Ms. Bono Mack prefers is real. But there is a question about what her legal name is and it might be worth getting a definitive answer. Czrisher (talk) 21:51, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

The only sources we have are for "Mack". If we have sources that give another name we can use those. But I don't think we can just decide that her legal name is "Mary Whitaker Bono McGillicuddy" based on our own calculations.   Will Beback  talk  22:33, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Lickity Split

So, is Wikipedia the on-line version of the National Enquirer? Seems so with the repetition of the stories about a woman "licking" Mack's breast and cleavage. (No less than 4 "WP:RS" provide verification.) Deep into the cleavage is one description. And the other woman is a political donor, so that must be mentioned. And the stories quoted say "Lesbian" -- ah, yes, the congresswoman is now a lesbian. And this occurred 4 years ago -- at last we know she has been in the closet for all these years. And this was in a public function, e.g., a party where people were taking photos, so she has no shame. And Mack is the one who was doing the deed, not Blixseth -- woops, not so fast, we do not see Mack's face and one might wonder about the magic of Adobe Photoshop. Well, with these concerns in mind, I ask WP editors -- is this noteworthy information for the article? If not, split it out! --S. Rich (talk) 05:15, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

This does not seem to have lasting notability. The subject has issued a denial.[2] The photo is not self-evident. Unless there's more substantial coverage of this, I suggest we delete it.   Will Beback  talk  10:59, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. I have seen the photos, read the coverage and I do not believe this event is notable enough to include in this article. (PS, I am a California Democrat) DFS (talk) 20:59, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Done. --S. Rich (talk) 21:48, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Name

I don't think she intends to be known, professionally or otherwise, as Mary Bono Mack for the rest of her life. She has had two husbands since Sonny Bono died, and I saw more references to Mary B. Mack than anything else. Quis separabit? 17:38, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

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Overhaul

I just overhauled this article, and it needed it. It was disorganized and contained a bunch of material that was either unsourced or was supported by non-secondary sources. There was also some promotional-sounding material from Bono's own websites. Hard to know how that stuff got in here and why nobody caught it. The article still needs more and better sources. It would benefit from more info on Bono's congressional career. 24.29.56.240 (talk) 17:05, 26 October 2020 (UTC)