Talk:Mauser

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Please allow my edits which make the artcle more consistent and readable, EG why to have a 19th to 20th century paragraph when we can write the history under models???

Also the reference to the Krag was giving the WRONG impression that it was a black powder rifle!!!! The mauser was clearly better than the springfield only! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.23.5.243 (talk) 12:33, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Surely this is wrong? "What was to become a Mauser factory started on July 31, 1811, when Friedrich I of Württemberg established a royal weapons factory in Oberndorf, a small town in the Prussian Black Forest. The factory opened for business the next year, employing 133 workers." The Black Forest is in Wurtemberg, which is why the King of Wurtemberg chose it for his factory. I have removed the Prussian reference.

Its an widespread misunderstanding that the ammunition for mauser rifle is called 7,92x57J. In fact the correct name is 7,92x57I. The “I” is an abrivation for “infantry” or “infantry-spitz” (IS) as the later version of the round was called. The reason for this misunderstanding is probably the marking that the Germans used on their cartridges, which looks like a “J” but actually is a capital I.

If nobody opposes that, I will change the “J” to “I”.

Its an widespread misunderstanding that the ammunition for mauser rifle is called 7,92x57J. In fact the correct name is 7,92x57I. The “I” is an abrivation for “infantry” or “infantry-spitz” (IS) as the later version of the round was called. The reason for this misunderstanding is probably the marking that the Germans used on their cartridges, which looks like a “J” but actually is a capital I.

If nobody opposes that I will change the “J” to “I”.

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Hi - I've got a collection of Mausers, including more than a few models you don't have anything on here yet. Any objections if I take some photos similar to what you have on the page, and write somethign up in a consistant style with what you have? Do you want to get into subvarients - like the 4 types of Swedish Mauser, for instance?

The more the merrier! At least thats my opinion --Rain 04:18, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

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While you are correct, the standards bodies CIP and SAAMI both use J now. It is an accident of history we have to live with. To be pedantic, pre-WWII references should use "I" and post-WWII references should use "J". I describe why in the 8x57 entry.

I'm going to fix the glaring Commission 88 Mauser (ugh) error. There was an 1888 Mauser, but it was not the rifle the Commission invented. The Model 1888 was influenced by Mauser, Mannlicher, and other designs, but it most certainly was never a Mauser. --HangFire 04:31, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

are you sure karbine kurtz is correct?

i thought the the karbine kurtz was the extremely short version of the rifle not the standard version... can sombody check this Gimpy117 01:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Wehrrmansgewehr?

german is my native language and this word sounds really strange... how about Wehrmannsgewehr (which would also be a strange name)?

Image sizes changed

Changed the image resolutions to 300 pixels, if you have at least 1024 x 768 you should be fine. --Chinese3126 23:15, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

This topic needs serious corrections.

"...and the similar Model 95 was sold to Mexico, Chile, Uruguay, China, Iran and the South African states of Transvaal and The Orange Free State (Boers)."

The 1895 model Mauser was never purchased or used by any South African or Boer group. They used the 1893 model. Even the Ludwig Loewe Model 1896 as marked on the side rail were model 1893 design rifles.

In the Swedish section- again- errors. Swedish Mauser production did not start until 1898. They could hardly have been using it since 1896. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DutchSwedishMauser (talk • contribs) 22:18, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Sweden took delivery of contract-produced M/96 rifles and M94 carbines manufactured by Mauserwerke well before 1898. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.213.239.24 (talk) 15:03, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Argentine models

Hi, I was wondering if it'd be OK if I add to the article (when I found them) pics of the two argentine Mauser models mentioned in the article. Regards, DPdH (talk) 09:45, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Urfabrik

"The factory was built in an Augustine cloister and was chosen because it was very stoutly built and was ideal for arms production."

— Why were stout walls ideal for arms production? Is this an allusion to powder explosions? Wouldn't that be relevant to an ammunition factory?

Sca (talk) 14:58, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Model vs. Modell

Should spelling of "Model" (or "Modell") be consistent in sections 1.1.12 Type A, Model B, Model K, Armee-Model C, Africa-Model and 1.1.13 Modell M and Modell S? If so, which? — Robert Greer (talk) 20:31, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Historical Point

"Where the devil did this '7.92' term slip into use?" The GRC original specification for the bore was and remains '7.9'(indicating '7.90'). When the rifling/bullet diameter was increased, that was changed from '8.1' to '8.2'(as in '8.20', not the '8.22' mislabel used by some), but the bore diameter remained unchanged./Much 20th century referencing, including war years [WWII] British (with their consistent use of bore measure for identifying arms and munitions) writings noting '7.9'. This same notation applies equally to the 8X33 Kurz as the extension of the German defacto standard '8.20' bullet diameter is in use with this cartridge. Robert D. Lawry, thank you very much64.40.60.129 (talk) 03:58, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

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Common Usage

Back when I was a kid in New Delhi, we used to get these plastic pistols that would shoot plastic pellets. These were almost exclusively referred to as "Mausers". Like lip-balm is always referred to as Chapstick or pocket tissues are always referred to as Tempo. I have no source for this, but I find it interesting that these plastic toys were called "Mausers" instead of "Brownings" or "Walter PPKs" or "Glocks" or "Berettas". Can anyone find a source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.43.210.252 (talk) 23:38, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

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M98, the most produced rifle in history?

I've come across several articles (in both Swedish and American hunting magazines) that states that the M98 is the most produced rifle in history, with over 100 million produced. I suspect that this is a figure for all rifles with the 98-system (or the the whole M98 family of rifles), but I am not sure. I would like to add this figure somewhere, but I do not know in which article it should be added and how it should be explained so that it does not mislead anyone. Can anyone help me?EriFr (talk) 08:30, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

See:

http://www.gundigest.com/gun-collecting-firearm-collecting/mauser-the-most-important-rifle

http://www.mauser.com/en/products/m98/m98/

The text of the first article implies to me that all variants and derivatives using the Mauser 98 bolt design (it mentions the [[Pattern 1914 Enfield|P14 Enfield]) are counted to get to the unspecified large number. The P14 article says (my emphasis added) of that gun " The action was essentially a Mauser design with some Lee features and optimised for rapid fire, with the action cocking on closing, a feature highly valued by the British Army with its emphasis on riflemen highly trained for rapid fire, but less valued in other armies, such as the US or Germany, where cock-on-opening designs such as the M1903 Springfield and Mauser 98 were preferred". GraemeLeggett (talk) 11:25, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Much of the Rifles section should be split off or merged into separate articles.

For example, the Spanish Mauser. And the 1898 is very lengthy, despite having its own article already. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goldenbirdman (talk • contribs) 03:25, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Suggest that the page be modified regarding the US M1903 Springfield being a copy of the 98 Mauser action.

The timeline and dimensional characteristics don't support that conjecture. They do support that the M1903 Springfield is a hybrid of the existing US Krag rifle, and the Spanish Model 93 Mauser, which was exhaustively studied after US Forces in Cuba came up against it. The Army Board of Investigation used this information to design the follow-on to the US Krag, which was in a shooting prototype by 1900. This was well before the 98 Mauser became widespread, and in addition, the new US Springfield rifle featured receiver ring dimensions that were much closer to the 93 (Spanish) Mauser than the later 98 Mauser. Also, the US did indeed pay royalties to Mauser, but it was for the stripper clip feed system as found on the 93 Mauser and Springfield M1903, not the action itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:100:4B80:FF57:F9D1:62D:3ECA:5159 (talk) 21:44, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Products wrong listed under the name of Sig Sauer

These Mauser products were listed under Sig Sauer and are being removed from that page.

• Mauser Jagdwaffen GmbH
  • M 12 Basic
  • M 12 Extreme
  • M 03 Basic
  • M 03 Extreme
  • M 03 Trail
  • M 03 Match / Jagdmatch
  • M 03 Solid
  • M 03 Africa
  • M 03 Arabesque
  • M 03 De Luxe
  • M 03 Old Classic
  • M 03 Alpine
  • M 98
  • M 98 Magnum

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Has the company been liquidated?

The German language version of this article says that Mauser was a company and that it was liquidated in 2000 and 2004. The English article seems to mention this as a merger but clearly this doesn't fit. One language's article is wrong; either the company exists or it doesn't. Jamgoodman (talk) 09:29, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Waffenbrix M81

I have a Waffenbrix M81. I would like to know the history and value of the rifle. It was previously owned by a WW11 POW. 174.252.129.114 (talk) 04:08, 6 July 2022 (UTC)