Talk:Mawra Hocane

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because it is a stub and will add more info and references --WikiBulova (talk) 18:30, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

not only does it not assert importance, it contains the nonsense claim that she is her own sister. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:59, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Mawra and Urwa Hocane are sisters. Don't be mean and pick on small mistakes of editors. WikiBulova (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:04, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Birth date

Regardless of whether the article is deleted or not I have restored the birth date sourced to the subject's official Facebook profile as it meets all of the requirements of WP:SELFPUB. The information is published on a verified Facebook page controlled by the subject.--Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 20:04, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Anyone to stop his ownership

• TheRedPenOfDoom, your behaviour is not cooperative and you are wrongly interpreting the rules, you are spoiling all Wiki articles with your imposing behaviour, please discuss on the talk page and reach a consensus otherwise you will be reported for destroying the Wikipedia project. I hope someone watches that contributor practising ownership of the entire project. I am not here to waste my time with such noncooperative contributor, he remains I do not like it. I assume good faith and ignore all rules for improving the article and standard layout and outlook.Justice007 (talk) 16:54, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

TRPoD is a good editor, not an owner. WP:IAR is not a valid reason to neglect WP:V and WP:NPOV - nor is it a reason to include fancruft. Scr★pIron^IV 17:15, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

I do not know whether he is good or not, but he is mostly wrong interpreting the rules out of its context as he did here, and you endorsed that before discussing the issue and knowing that the discussion is taken place. Your reversion did not pass the NPOV; it is just a favour rather discussing the dispute here. Did you read the sources, those are the reliable sources, not the fancruft. It is the practice of the vote, be a fair and neutral, you even do not know that the issue is not the content, but the layout. Removing the well-sourced content is not NPOV. Sections are very important and easier for the newbies, who want to add the new information, they can add to the proper place. I consider your reversion disruptive and voting.Justice007 (talk) 18:22, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

How exactly am I wrong in interpreting, for example WP:LEAD which says that a lead should be a summary that is expanded upon in the body (or actually, that a led would be a condensed reflection of content covered more deeply in the body)? or that we dont play and hype controversies as "controversies", but merely describe what has happened, or that the content in the article must actually represent what the sources say? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:58, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

I do not understand your interpreting, how you can legitimate as your description that a lead should be a summary that is expanded upon the body? when there is not at all body. The rule does not state the length of the content for the lead section and nor it is prohibited adding sections. There are many articles with the single line lead section, short or long; it is your conception and description, not the rules. You are pretty good mentioning the rules, but without the understanding of the real concept. You removed well-sourced content and spoiled the layout, and even you removed the cited sources while you cannot delete the sources that are even dead, but you did. I am wikifying the articles from a long time, but I think other editors did not know the rules awarding me the barnstars for that and you spoiling mentioning rules as your interpretation. What must I discuss with you while you remain on your standpoint ignoring the common sense Justice007 (talk) 19:39, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

That is precisely the point. If an article contains so little information that putting a "summary" is essentially just repeating everything that would be in a body, it makes no sense to have a "lead section" as there is no purpose for it to serve. (and yes, many of the 5,000,000 in Wikipedia are not even close to the basic standards including frequent use of multiple body sections and subsections to fluff up a minor article about which there is little to no substance into looking like it is a major topic.)-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:47, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Summary means an overview of content that provides a reader with the overarching theme but does not expand on specific details. The lead was as the rule, not the repetition though summary is short repetition. I added content to expand the article from the same cited sources that you deleted telling in the edit summary and also here that must be verifiable, it is just an awkward accessing way. You are just gaming the system, and everywhere your interpretation is contradicted even your description, and you impose the rules as your choices, but not for the project that is more joke and fun that the same cited sources have well verifiability and from the same sources have not verifiability of other passage of the same article.Justice007 (talk) 20:17, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

If you think that the subject merits an in depth article where the body will be more than 5 single line paragraphs, please continue to provide content and the reliably published sources that specifically verify any of the claims that you place into the article. More content about her Pakistani soap career appears to be a good place to start. But remember that we are an encyclopedia and not a celebrity gossip site, so concentrate on appropriately encyclopedic content and present it in an appropriately encyclopedic tone. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:25, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2016

I am Mawra Hocane and this wiki page has details written about me. This page consists of information which is not legitimate. Starting with the change in birthplace which is supposed to be Peshawar, Pakistan instead of Karachi, Pakistan. The information about my education is also incorrect. I had been studying in The Institute of Legal Studies, Pakistan and not University College of Islamabad. This page has a lot of facts missing and has named projects which are not even mine for example The Hostels. Also, the project Bilo, Hello Aur Bhayya is the incorrect name for the project Billo Bablu Aur Bhaiyya. The projects mentioned are randomly placed in no chronological order. Also, the awards and nominations are missing.

Please find attached my passport copy to verify my birthplace details. Also, I would like to request the edit permissions on this page so I can manage it myself. If you need any verification regarding my identity, let me know. (Redacted)

Looking forward to the positive response. Thanks and regards.

Mawrahussain (talk) 13:07, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

 Partly done I have corrected your place of birth per the image of your passport. I have also removed the contested education information and The Hostels. These statements were sourced in the article, but I cannot read the language. I will leave the edit request open for another pair of eyes. — JJMC89 (T·C) 18:15, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Please note that this is not "your" page, it is Wikipedia's page about you, and may include whatever information, be it good or bad, that has been published in reliable independent sources. You should not edit it, as you have a clear conflict of interest in what is included or excluded. If you wish to propose changes and/or corrections, please post them here as a semi-protected edit request, like this, together with where the information can be checked. These sources should be independent, not your own web-site, press releases etc, whilst twitter, facebook and other user generated media are not normally "reliable". - Arjayay (talk) 07:10, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Not much else to be done here without sources. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 08:36, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

A copy of a birth certificate, passport and other such legal documents cannot be used to support personal information in a BLP (WP:BLPPRIMARY). As the birthplace is disputed I've removed it altogether until a reliable verifiable published source is provided for confirmation.--Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 21:15, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 21 September 2016

Mawra was born in Peshawar and not Karachi. Please change place of birth from Karachi to Peshawar. I am her publicist so I can assure you the information I am providing you is correct.

182.180.189.95 (talk) 07:47, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Any one can claim to be any one on the internet, but all our information should be verifiable - Arjayay (talk) 09:17, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Age is wrong

Age needs to be corrected. which girl in pakistan steps outside the house at age 14? she was Vj for ARY at age 14 then? is she meera who celbrated her 14th birthday 10 times before moving on to her 20s Qurratnj (talk) 08:10, 5 August 2019 (UTC)