Talk:Mediterranean tropical-like cyclone

Move?

Mediterranean tropical-like cyclone is a title format not used anywhere else for a tropical cyclone basin title (not even in the South Atlantic which could have a similar title). I suggest that the title should be moved to Mediterranean Sea Tropical Cyclone or something on those lines to fit in with the rest (North Indian Ocean tropical cyclone, South Atlantic tropical cyclone, South Pacific tropical cyclone, etc.) RandomInfinity17 (talk) 16:25, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

I think that has been extensively discussed earlier on the page, and the current usage reflects the current (and increasingly widely used) academic nomenclature.~ Lacunae (talk) 20:49, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

This is wrong and inconsistent. Terms like "TLc" but above all "Medicane" are informal, created in the 1990s when the Mediterranean was not considered among the basins with possible tropical developments. And many academic studies have continued this fallacy. We now know that some of these systems have been tropical cyclones, just as some unusual NE Atlantic tropical cyclones outside the tropics have been (Karl nov.1980, Grace oct.2009, Pablo oct.2019, Alex jan.2016). It would not be of good use if tornadoes over the Mediterranean were called "Med-nado" or "like-tornado". Since some of these cyclones have had official classifications as tropical cyclones (Rolf Nov.2011 and Ianos Sept.2020) it is time that Mediterranean tropical cyclones are classified consistently like the other basins of the Globe.

Ianos-CIMSS tropical cyclone 01M: https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/atms/archive/2020/202001M.html

Rolf-Ssd/Noaa tropical storm 01M: https://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/2011/tdata/archive.html 217.201.200.3 (talk) 13:02, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Remove naming list

The only reason why the "naming list" section was created was because Apollo of 2021 was named from the Central European windstorm naming list. Only three Mediterranean tropical cyclones since, Blas, Hannelore, and Helios have been named from the naming lists, only one (Helios) from the Central European one. Every other system that has been named from the naming lists were European windstorms, not Mediterranean tropical cyclones. This is why I think the naming list should be removed, the naming list is for European windstorms and has rarely been used for Mediterranean tropical cyclones. RandomInfinity17 (talk - contributions) 00:14, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

• Support It does seem redundant and pointless to include those names, as it is true that they are used for the European Windstorms, and not usually for systems in the Mediterranean. It is also confusing to the average reader, especially considering the European windstorm and Mediterranean Cyclones are separate events, yet the names are included. 🌀CycloneFootball71🏈 |sandbox 05:53, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
• Comment @RandomInfinity17 and CycloneFootball71: Allow me to jump in here and clarify a few things. The names are NOT specifically for European Windstorms or Mediterranean TLC's, but are generally assigned when a European Country has issued an orange wind warning which includes the Mediterranean region. As a result, you will find more and more TLC's being named especially since TLC's are AFAIK European Windstorms.Jason Rees (talk) 20:42, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

  Thank you for clarifying, that makes more sense. 🌀CycloneFootball71🏈 |sandbox 23:20, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Storm Daniel

I'm curious how storm Daniel will (eventually) be treated in this article. It was given its name by HNMS, but in its formative stage, when it caused most of its damage and fatalities. In the days since, it appears to have taken on the convective structure of a Subtropical Cyclone, with multiple ASCAT passes showing a well-defined circulation containing a broad surface wind maximum as high as 35-40kt removed from its LLCC. It continues to maintain a large, curved convective band to the north of its exposed LLCC, which visible satellite imagery shows to have multiple vortices rotating around. Thoughts? AJC3fromS2K (talk) 17:27, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

It might even be article worthy. There’s an article on the recent floods, but it’s not centered on Daniel (yet). In the meantime we could probably start gathering sources while it’s active, since it could be a significant flood threat to Libya (after already flooding Greece). Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 18:51, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

See 2023 Southeast Europe floods. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:48, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

GAR Notice

There's a large amount of text lacking citations and the history needs an update. This notice will be for the usual 1 week time period. Noah, AA^Talk 03:04, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

Mediterranean tropical-like cyclone

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Result: I'm not seeing any indication that the issues will be addressed after more than three weeks have passed since the initial notification at the talk page and a week since this was opened. Therefore, I am delisting this article. Noah, AA^Talk 13:43, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Problems with a lack of citations as well as the history section needing to be updated in regards to naming and other aspects. No response at the GAR notice. Noah, AA^Talk 14:58, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.