Talk:Milwaukee/Archive 4

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Image of official seal?

Latest comment: 16 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

What's the deal with the image of the seal in the infobox? It looks like the image doesn't scale down to thumbnail size, and so we have a barely-visible purple circle. Does anyone have a better image of the seal? I can't seem to find one.-Nick^talk 22:12, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Never mind. I downloaded the image, and used photoshop to clean it up and sharpen it (and save as a different format). It seems to be better now. -Nick^talk 22:20, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Holler House

Latest comment: 16 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I have just created Holler House and if anyone has some free images of it that can be uploaded and used. Any article improvement would be appreciated too. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:42, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

Latest comment: 16 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

There is currently a proposal on the table to amend the Wikipedia naming conventions for US cities to follow the AP Stylebook's suggested names. This would effectively move a number of US city articles currently on the list, so Milwaukee, Wisconsin would be moved to Milwaukee. To comment on this discussion, please go here. --Serge (talk) 17:30, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

On the addtion of "panorama map"

Latest comment: 15 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

A "panorama map of Milwaukee" [sic] was recently added to the article. While appreciative of the efforts, I feel it should be removed since the image: (a) doesn't actually provide a panoramic map of the city, (b) is mostly composed of greenspace, with the cityscape only in the background, (c) and fails to present any clear landmarks to make the image distinctively "of Milwaukee". As such, it has little encyclopedic or informative value. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 19:42, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

I'd have to agree. Aside from the above points, the lighting in the photo makes it difficult to see what's actually being depicted. And, there are some missing buildings that would suggest that the pic is outdated. -Nick^talk 20:17, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Hmong Community in Milwaukee

Latest comment: 15 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Among immigration and migration to Milwaukee there needs to be a greater effort to include the other more recent ethnic groups that have moved to and contributed to Milwuakee. This would include an expansion on the city's black and Latino communities. There also must be some mention of the city's Hmong Community as it is the 3rd Largest in the nation, behind Minneapolis and Fresno.

Please address this. thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.255.109.100 (talk) 15:56, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

So do it! (But make sure you've got reliable sources, particularly for claims like "3rd largest".) --Orange Mike | Talk 19:48, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

City of Festivals

Latest comment: 15 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I added a link to a future article about Trainfest not long ago and it got deleted...I couldn't figure out why from the page history, so I'm assuming it was because the article hadn't been written and I'm adding it back in now that it is. Bright tracks (talk) 20:51, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Natives and Residents

Latest comment: 15 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

Most town and city entries have this sort of category.

I can think of four off hand who all have Wikipedia entries on their own, and I've only lived here a couple of years: Golda Meir, George F. Kennan, Bud Selig, and Karl Kiekhaefer. Who else? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Philroof (talk • contribs) 03:30, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to sign, and sure as hell don't know how to do tildes on my keyboard, but I'm Phil. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Philroof (talk • contribs) 03:34, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Population claims

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

This is written in Milwaukee's article:

"With the large influx of immigrants, Milwaukee became one of the 15 largest cities in the nation, and by the mid-1960s, its population reached nearly 850,000. Starting in the late 1960s, unlike many cities in the "rust belt", Milwaukee's population continued to increase. Milwaukee escaped white flight, while every other major city experienced a decrease in population because of it."

According to provided census data, Milwaukee never reached 850,000 people, nor did it escape the population decreases that hit many other Northeastern and Midwestern cities from the 1960s onward. Am I missing something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.240.80.142 (talk) 20:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

The origins of the name "Milwaukee."

Latest comment: 12 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Did anyone catch that "Wayne's World" has been used as a citation for the meaning of the name of Milwaukee? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.122.253.212 (talk) 18:07, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I came here to note this as well. The first paragraph of the History section, which offers two possibilities regarding the origin of the name, conflicts with the opening of the article. The History of Milwaukee article lends credence to the Algonquin origin but also makes it clear that the origin is uncertain. The first line in this article makes it sound unquestioned; I think it should be removed. MatthewBurton (talk) 17:54, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

temp

Latest comment: 11 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

go to weather.com type in milwaukee their average high in april is 54 degrees — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeppa1233223 (talk • contribs) 18:14, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

But is that a reliable source; or do we have better sources to use? --Orange Mike | Talk 01:41, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

New CSA statistics!

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

This page needs to be updated There is a new Milwaukee Metro CSA which now includes the following MSAs:

Beaver Dam, WI Micropolitan Statistical Area

Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis, WI Metropolitan Statistical Area

Racine, WI Metropolitan Statistical Area

Watertown-Fort Atkinson, WI Micropolitan Statistical Area

Whitewater-Elkhorn, WI Micropolitan Statistical Area

The combined estimated population for this new designation of the Milwaukee CSA is now 2,033,139 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maximilian77 (talk • contribs) 03:53, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Structure

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hi. I'm going through all the US Cities (as per List of United States cities by population) in an effort to provide some uniformity in structure. Anyone have an issue with me restructuring this article as per Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline. I won't be changing any content, merely the order. Occasionally, I will also move a picture just to clean up spacing issues. I've already gone through the top 20 or so on the above list, if you'd like to see how they turned out. Thoughts? Onel5969 (talk) 15:51, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Hoocąk name for Milwaukee

Latest comment: 9 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

The Hoocąk word for Milwaukee, Teešíšik ('eeja), was recently removed from the lead. With some further explanation as to meaning, it might find a place in the article body, with other native names. In the meantime, I'll make mention of it, as well as the references used^[1]^[2], here. Dhtwiki (talk) 20:11, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

References

^ Physical Spatial Place. (2010, June 1). Hocąk Teaching Materials Volume 1, p. 455.
^ "Location Word List". Hoocąk Waaziija Haci Language Division, A Division of The Ho-Chunk Nation. 2011. Archived from the original on November 10, 2012. Retrieved August 18, 2015.

It would need historical context and better references. Hocąk Teaching Materials, Volume 1 is just a language dictionary and that citation gives no historical context. FWIW, "Tee" appears to mean "lake" and "šíšik" appears to mean "ugly".[1] That doesn't seem to relate to the naming of Milwaukee or a historical Winnebago settlement there as described in History of Milwaukee as "Good", "Beautiful" and "Pleasant Land" or gathering place by the water. The source would have to clarify if it was a pre-founding of Milwaukee historical place name used c.1800 or if the term was created as a translation to refer to Milwaukee in more modern times. --Dual Freq (talk) 14:50, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Religion

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I updated the survey in the religion section to be about a 2010 survey instead of a 2000 survey. To write this section, I did simple calculations (addition and dividing by 10 to go from adherence rate to percentage). By Wikipedia policy, simple calculations are not original research. (see here). --GoldCoastPrior (talk) 13:16, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Segregation update

Latest comment: 9 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

I noticed that the paragraph describing segregation in Milwaukee cites several articles over 10 years old, with only reference from the past 5 years (2011). Is there some way we could update this to reflect more recent reports? Kqzhong (talk) 00:24, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

This article from 2014 states that Milwaukee is "the most segregated city in the country in terms of race and poverty." It links to the Milw Journal-Sentinel, but more for political segregation than for racial segregation. http://www.governing.com/topics/politics/gov-milwaukee-most-segregated-polarized-place.html --GoldCoastPrior (talk) 00:44, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

I found that article when doing a quick search on the topic; after much thought, I'm hoping to expand the paragraph we have right now into a full stand-alone article, if possible. Kqzhong (talk) 05:05, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

There is more from NPR here: http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/03/05/390723644/why-is-milwaukee-so-bad-for-black-people — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoldCoastPrior (talk • contribs) 19:33, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

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Unclear use of "Mexican American" in article

Latest comment: 8 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

There is a sentence in the 3rd to last paragraph of section "Milwaukee since European settlement" that states - "By 1925, around 9,000 Mexican Americans lived in Milwaukee, but the Great Depression forced many of them to move back home." Would this sentence make more sense if it used Mexican Nationals since 'back home' for them would be Mexico as opposed to Mexican Americans whose home would have been Milwaukee? Cheers! Meishern (talk) 16:52, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

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dark photos

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The photos of a lot of the buildings in the picture montage look underexposed and/or dark - can we replace some of the dark ones with ones taken in better light? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.48.165.98 (talk) 15:48, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

I see what you mean, but I'd let it be. Perhaps it's because I know Milwaukee so well that I'm more likely to enjoy photos in dramatic light, where someone else might prefer photographs shot in the middle of the day, which might be more clear, informative, and thus encyclopedic. However, the photos are well-focused, and detail is better seen when they're viewed at hi-res. In other words, they're sufficient as index photos, the caption also linking to articles where more photos might be found. Dhtwiki (talk) 06:19, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

I'd have to agree that the photos look too dark. I don't think they're dramatic; in fact, I think several of them are just poor shots and accordingly, poor choices for Wikipedia--especially in the infobox collage. Every time I visit the article I cringe a little at how weak this visual is. The skyline at sunset makes it hard to discern what is what, even in the large version. Marquette Hall is almost absurdly dark as a thumbnail and must be enlarged to see any detail whatsoever (which even then is unclear). And the sun/shadow interplay on the library just looks a bit odd. The shots don't all have to be daytime shots; the one of City Hall at night isn't terrible, necessarily. But compare against the infobox collages in the articles for Cleveland, Chicago, or Albuquerque. I think we can come up with something better. If I were a user who was entirely unfamiliar with the city, I wouldn't feel like the Milwaukee collage gives a quick, clear, effortless first impression. Can anyone recommend a good tool for assembling such a collage? I'm tempted to find some images in the Commons and make something new. Wantonlife (talk) 04:00, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Okay, months after I commented on this I finally created a collage of photos that are a bit brighter give a clearer sense for the purposes of the infobox. Wantonlife (talk) 04:37, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Nice job. Looks much better. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:34, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

I think it's an improvement but there are so many better photos of downtown Milwaukee available. I have some I have shot myself. I can put them in Creative Commons and make a collage if that's ok with you. The photos of the city should look great, not just mediocre.

Also, the skyline is rapidly changing and these photos are out of date. Two new towers are currently being constructed by Northwestern Mutual that are dramatically altering the skyline; The 833 E Michigan building was just recently erected; the high rise Couture will start construction in a couple of months just east of that; and there are rumours of a 52 story headquarters tower to be built by Johnson Controls in the near future, as well. The skyline photos on here are going to need to be updated and updated and updated and updated frequently. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.48.167.226 (talk) 19:06, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

I made a new collage that includes the recently completed NML tower, along with some other photos that are a bit brighter compared to the last image someone else uploaded. Hopefully I created the collage correctly for the Commons this time. All six of the images used in it are linked in the description for the collage file and all are already part of the Commons. Wantonlife (talk) 22:37, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

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Requesting semi-protected status

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I am requesting semi-protected status for this article as there seems to be an edit war between unregistered users. There have been numerous alterations to the "in popular culture" section from unregistered users. Crusadinggoonie (talk) 07:12, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Needs updated skyline images

Latest comment: 6 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

The Milwaukee skyline has changed dramatically in the past 10 years. The panoramic image in the article dates back to 2008. --Madds212 (talk) 22:56, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Can you suggest a suitable replacement? Dhtwiki (talk) 21:30, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

[1] Physical Spatial Place. (2010, June 1). Hocąk Teaching Materials Volume 1, p. 455.

[2] "Location Word List". Hoocąk Waaziija Haci Language Division, A Division of The Ho-Chunk Nation. 2011. Archived from the original on November 10, 2012. Retrieved August 18, 2015.

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