Talk:Monogem

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Flibirigit (talk) 01:53, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

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• ... that Monogem (known as Jen Hirsh), competed on season eleven of American Idol, then created three EPs and her debut album? Source: https://aldianews.com/en/culture/music/monogems-gardenia https://www.elle.com/culture/music/news/a23909/monogem-music-interview-all-we-have/
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5x expanded by JuanGLP (talk). Self-nominated at 17:04, 6 October 2022 (UTC).

• @JuanGLP: Im very sorry but i'm going to have to fail this nomination. This is because the article fails the newness category. Though the article was indeed created and expanded 5x by you. It MUST be done and nominated within 7 days. Sadly, this isn't the case. I do see that you've nominated this to good article status. If this article does become a good article than you can renominate this during the 7-day period after it's promotion. Until then though, this nomination has failed. Good article though. Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:16, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

• Closing nomination as ineligible at this time. No prejudice against the nomination being reopened if/when the article achieves GA status. Flibirigit (talk) 01:53, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Monogem/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Sebbirrrr (talk · contribs) 17:03, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Review coming soon.

Lead and infobox

• This article switches between Hirsh and Monogem when referring to her, please stick with Monogem as she's mononymously known as that
• "Jennifer Hirsh performing" → "Monogem performing"
• "singer" → "Singer"
• "Piano" → "piano"
• The fact that she plays piano isn't cited anywhere in the body
• None of the genres are cited in the body
• In the body, the year she married Jason Melvin is not given
• The second sentence of the lead should be what she's known for (i.e. taking part on American Idol)
• Italicize American Idol
• "which is also her first Spanish language album" → not cited in the body
• "where she placed in fifteenth place" → "where she placed fifteenth"
• "In the next two years" → "Two years later"

Early life and education

• The source doesn't give her full name nor her birth place and home town
• "She attended college at Berklee College of Music in Boston and graduated" → "She graduated from Berklee College of Music"
• That's all? Is there no more information on her life before American Idol?

Musical career

2012–2015: American Idol & Monogem

• The table needs a table caption
• The background information on what the Monogem Ring is WP:TOOMUCH
• "These singles got included" → "They were included"
• The music video sentence is unsourced

2016–2020: 100% & So Many Ways

• There's quite some repetition of "single" and "was released"
• Don't start sentences with And
• The "Paraíso" information is unsourced
• "This track is an ode to" → WP:TOOMUCH

2021–present: Gardenia

• "joined with a" → "accompanied by"
• "The debut album also included one of the tracks of So Many Ways EP, "Soy Lo Que Soy"." → WP:TOOMUCH
• Her son's birth date is unsourced
• "currently working" → WP:CURRENTLY
• You shouldn't have one-sentence paragraphs

Discography

• Remove the discography table on the right, it should only be used for separate discography articles
• All tables need a table caption
• "MONOGEM" → "Independent"
• "Format: vinyl, streaming, digital download" → "Format: LP, digital download, streaming"
• "streaming & digital download" → "Digital download, streaming"
• Don't bold Monogem
• "ft." → "featuring"

Music videos

• This entire section is unsourced
• The album should only be included if it is a video album

Filmography

• Needs a table caption
• For the headings, the year goes first and then the show
• "Herself/Contestant" → "Herself (contestant)"
• Don't put Season 11 in quotes

References

• Copyvio at just 9.9% looks great
• Ref 2 is unreliable per WP:ALBUMAVOID
• Ref 16 is unreliable (Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_267#Hello!_Magazine)
• While Grimy Goods lists their writers, it looks like it is a blog according to their about page
• According to this, Indie Music Filter is also a blog and shouldn't be used
• Ref 23 is dead and it was hosted on Squarespace which makes it unreliable as anyone can create a website on Squarespace
• Both Le Catrina and Prism Boutique are online shops with blogs and without any credentials, I'm not sure they can be considered reliable sources
• Refs 38, 39 and 40 are not formatted properly
• Replace ref 41 per WP:RSSM
• WP:SHOUT on refs 5, 8, 9, 14, 15, 17, 20, 22, 28, 29, 31 and 36
• Fix MOS:QWQ on refs 8, 13, 14, 15, 25
• Italicize Monogem on ref 34; Gardenia on refs 30, 31; 100% on ref 35; So Many Ways on refs 19, 36
• For ref 1, link Elle and de-capitalize it
• For ref 2, the author is Lotkhamnga, Seraphina
• Link Los Angeles and remove "Magazine" for ref 4
• Link Nylon on ref 6
• Link Billboard on ref 7
• Link Vice on ref 8
• Link God Is in the TV on ref 9
• Link Turntable Kitchen on ref 10
• Link The Fader on ref 13
• Link Impose on ref 14
• Link Wonderland on ref 15
• Tag Music All Access as a publisher on ref 17
• Link Flaunt on ref 20 and remove "Magazine"
• Tag Sopitas as a publisher on ref 21
• Link and de-capitalize Al Día on ref 25 and remove "News"
• Same thing as above for refs 28 and 31
• Link Interview on ref 34 and remove "Magazine"
• Link and de-capitalize Earmilk on ref 35

Outcome

• Unfortunately, I'm going to have to fail this nomination based on prose and sourcing. There is some unsourced content as well as some unreliable sources used in the article to support information. I spotted some prose issues as well, which include repetition and unnecessary information. You did a good job improving this article nonetheless so don't feel discouraged. Sebbirrrr (talk) 18:42, 1 November 2022 (UTC)