Talk:Morarji Desai/Archive 1

Archive 1

Misinformation

It has been mention that Samyukta Maharashtra Samiti was fired upon by the police resulting in the deaths of 105 demonstrators on the orders of Morarji Desai. This is utterly erroneous information as Morarji Desai was commerce and industry minister in the Indian government from 1956 to 1963. Please rectify this error. as,yhwh 21:22, 17 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by As.yhwh (talk • contribs)

Morarji was minister in Jawahar lal Nehru Cabinet, and he ordered to fire on mob even when firing was not needed. It was misconception of Non Marathis in Mumbai that Mumbai will not suitably governed by Marathi. but that was a spread by Gujaratis, who wanted entire trade of India under their control. Also Nehru used Morarji against Sanyukta Maharashtra movement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.90.192.68 (talk) 08:05, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Is there any maintainer on Indian section of wikipedia? as,yhwh 20:26, 13 August 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by As.yhwh (talk • contribs)

While Desai accepted both the awards from India and Pakistan, no Bharat Ratna awards were announced during his primeministership as he was said to be averse of giving such awards. The inconsistency as to why he accepted the ward later is not clearly known. I can't cite sources for these (was in the newspapers when he got the BharatRatna award), so these don't go into the main article. if someone can corroborate this, pl. add to main page. -- Gurubrahma 07:17, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

bharat ratna and Nishan-e-pakistan

Resolved

Nelson mandela also received both the awards bharat ratna (1990) and Nishan-e-pakistan (October 3 1992) see List of awards bestowed on Nelson Mandela. Hence Morarji is not the only person who received both the awards --Vyzasatya 19:20, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Urine-drinking

There's something about him drinking his own urine as medicine. should we include this here?

Pasting this part from the article. Please post it back with citation if the fact is for real.

Oh it is real, someone find the citation Earlyriser10 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:34, 19 December 2011 (UTC).

Well, the citation is real. Regarding the fact, we should ask Mr. Vargas Llosa. The book is "Los Cuadernos de Don Rigoberto". My copy was published in 1997 by Santillana, S.A. - ISBN 84-204-8263-3.

Here it is: [1] :During the First World War, doctors dosed patients with urine to ward off gangrene. Morarji Desai, the Indian prime minister from 1977 to 1979 who lived to the age of 99, drank a pint of his own urine every day.". Also, I remember seeing an interview on 60 Minutes, an American television program with him in 1978, where it was discussed. Many people in the US were shocked to hear it. See [2] and [3] --rogerd 18:30, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I remember that interview and now I remember where I saw it. I can't say "shocked" but my eyebrows bounced a little. :D --Phyllis1753 (talk) 00:11, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

I seem to find the reference to Desai's urine drinking in almost every western account on the man. As had happened with the above poster, it seems intended to provoke an "eyebrow bouncing" effect on western readers, and in pro-Indira Gandhi accounts it provides a neat contrast between the "old" traditionalist Desai and the supposedly "new" ways of the latter. Anyway...here's another full quote on the subject (biased against Dasai, of course, since it comes from a biography on Ms. I. Gandhi.):

From "Indira: The Life of Indira Nehru Gandhi" by Katherine Frank (London: Harper Collins, 2001) page 289-90:

"The problem with Desai, in the eyes of the Syndicate, was that he was his own man-and a rigid, doctrinaire one at that. Desai had all of (MK) Gandhi's fads and none of his virtues. His actions were dictated solely by his own inflexible principles and political convictions. Personally as well as politically, he was conservative. A strict Hindu, teetotaller and vegetarian, he had renounced sex at the age of twenty-seven. He shunned Western science and medicine in favour of a traditional regime that included drinking a glass of his own urine every morning."

The "(MK)" was added by myself to make clear the reference is to the Mahatma and not the daughter of Nehru. Thanks123.225.194.202 (talk) 08:09, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

I think it would be wise to add the advocacy of urine drinking into the beginning of the article. Maybe near the end near the promotion of social heath? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.217.16.105 (talk) 14:03, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Citations in Literature

In The Notebooks of Don Rigoberto, under the chapter "The smell of widows", Mario Vargas Llosa wrote that Mr. Desai, while being PM, used to read his speeches with pauses so he could drink sips of his own urine.

Emergency and extension of Lok Sabha Term.

During the emergency Parliament term was extended. Moraji Desai was against the corruption where as record say he was drawing salary as a Member of Parliament during extended period also. Will any body give correct information? vkvora 14:15, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Random Question?

was he associated with CIA? I dont know. But just asking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.233.78.227 (talk) 19:29, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Inclusion of Autograph

There is file at commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Desai.jpg (Autograph of Morarji Desai).

It clashes with this photo desai.jpg uploaded on English Wikipedia.

Can someone help me in uploading the first one? Hindustanilanguage (talk) 07:34, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Delete the unnecessary reference to the actor Dilip Kumar, please!

Resolved

The following sentence in the opening paragraph, "Actor Dilip Kumar was the second Indian to receive the Nishaan-e-Pakistan Award." is totally irrelevant to Mr. Desai the politician/prime minister and has no business on this page, let alone in the opening sentences, IMHO. After all, is this an article about Desai, or a Pakistani award and its Indian recipients?? I recommend a registered user deletes this unneeded reference. Thanks123.225.194.202 (talk) 07:49, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

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Typo

"Desai underwent his primary schooling in Saurashtra The Kundla School, Savarkundla now called J.V. Modi school and later joined Bai Ava Bai High School, Valsad."

Is there a typo in this (regarding the names of the schools)? I'm editing the article on Savarkundla, so if anyone could answer this it would be a great help to me. Thanks. NeutralWikipedia 02:40, 22 March 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NeutralWikipedia (talk • contribs)

Prohibition

There isn't anything in Morarji Desai's page regarding his role in the Prohibition — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.12.83.235 (talk) 10:16, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

external link?

Would an interview with Morarji Desai from 1987 be useful here as an external link? Focus of conversation is nuclear weapons policy. http://openvault.wgbh.org/catalog/V_C23A5D88252843578BE84FBB9A1AD75E (I helped with the site, so it would be conflict of interest for me to just add it.) Mccallucc (talk) 21:25, 23 March 2016 (UTC)